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Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Corsair mk. 2 on January 11, 2004, 07:56:30 pm
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Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Shrike on January 11, 2004, 08:32:14 pm
1)  They sucked ass.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Ransom on January 11, 2004, 08:44:45 pm
I like Shrike's economy version of the reasons better.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: phreak on January 11, 2004, 08:58:11 pm
heh

Return of the Dorks (http://www.swooh.com/peon/phreak/triumph.wmv)
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Drew on January 11, 2004, 10:25:43 pm
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Originally posted by Shrike
1)  They sucked ass.

amen. tho ep1 didnt suck as nearly as much as ep2. the only thing good in either was the podrace\jedi dules.  

oh, and the scene when yoda beats the jack**** outaa dokoo(wtf?) was as funny as hell
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 11, 2004, 10:30:52 pm
I still think it makes sense that Jar Jar doomed the Galaxy. Now if only we could do 2 things Episode III would be a great movie:
1. Save Anakin's reputation (hint: Firing the actor would help this).
2. Fire George Lucas.
3. Have the new, superior Anakin strike down Jar Jar at some point in the movie.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Turnsky on January 11, 2004, 11:19:04 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
I still think it makes sense that Jar Jar doomed the Galaxy. Now if only we could do 2 things Episode III would be a great movie:
1. Save Anakin's reputation (hint: Firing the actor would help this).
2. Fire George Lucas.
3. Have the new, superior Anakin strike down Jar Jar at some point in the movie.


Jar jar in a chipper-shredder?:p
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Stunaep on January 11, 2004, 11:52:23 pm
They need to put a lawnmower in. Lawnmowers are always good. OR chainsaws.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Liberator on January 12, 2004, 12:07:34 am
Feed him to that insect/feline thing that tried to eat Amidala.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Bobboau on January 12, 2004, 12:43:43 am
kill him with a toenail clipper
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: neo_hermes on January 12, 2004, 02:03:15 am
No you've got to cut Jar Jar into little tiny peices. then cut those peices into smaller peices. then launch him or whats left of him into the sun. then blow up the sun if you have time.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Bobboau on January 12, 2004, 03:58:07 am
toenail clipper will chop tiny littly slivers of flesh off very slowly, you could dip it in some sort of acid or salt to enhance the effect
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Gloriano on January 12, 2004, 06:43:40 am
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Originally posted by Shrike
1)  They sucked ass.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Warlock on January 12, 2004, 09:05:55 pm
Just curious,...but how many of those that hate the new SW films saw (and remember seeing) the originals at their original release?
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Corsair on January 12, 2004, 09:19:28 pm
I didn't. Wasn't born then... woulda liked to though, I'm sure it was friggin amazing seeing that for the first time on the big screen without having heard all the hype from parents/friends who had seen it wayyyyyyyyy before.

I knew I was born in the wrong decade.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: mikhael on January 12, 2004, 09:36:21 pm
I did, Warlock. And for the record, I don't hate the Ep1 and Ep2. I'm just disappointed in Lucas for somehow forgetting the things he did that made Eps4-6 so good. Instead of the originality of the first ones, eps 1 and 2 have continually ripped off the older trilogy, in some scenes, point for point. Despite that, though, I still liked them and look forward to Ep3.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Liberator on January 12, 2004, 09:44:11 pm
The new one's aren't bad persay, they just aren't as good as the first three.  

Most of it comes down to casting.

A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and The Return of the Jedi are good because of the acting abilities of Mark Hamil, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher.  The new ones suck be cause aside from an occasional good line from Ewan MacGregor and Natalie Portman, the characters all come off as stiff and uninspiring.  

Yoda is the exception due to the undeniable voice work of Mr. Frank Oz however.

Once again, I am begging Mr. L, get rid of Darth Whiner.  Make us understand how he became the ultimate Badass.

I refuse to believe that Vader was ever a whiney, bratty kid.  

Arrogant?  Yes
Angry?  Yes
Brooding?  Yes

But Anakin decended into the dark side because Obi Wan was a stern parent?  No way in hell.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Warlock on January 12, 2004, 10:01:18 pm
Well personally I don't see the "scene for scene" copies,...although I do see alot of basic themes being reused,..which is because the stories are meant to be quite similar.

As far as the Vader issue,... of course he's whiney,... he's a kid, he left his mother as a misunderstood angry little slave boy that wanted to boff a 14 yro princess, the closest to a father figure he has is "I just became a Jedi Knight and I'll wing my way through teaching most powerful force user in the galaxy" Obi Wan,...and then the poor fool finds his mother only to watch her die from torture.

I swear the only reason ppl hate Anakin is that they always picture him as Vader,...until Ep 1 noone every thought of Vader has having been a child,....much less ....a fairly normal one.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: mikhael on January 12, 2004, 10:10:08 pm
Well, Warlock, the whole end of Ep2 was lifted directly from Ep4, for example. Boy and Girl, robot hand, two droids, looking off into the distance, etc. I guess, though you're right. For the most part its themes that are reused, but the problem is that they're OBVIOUSLY reused.

Personally, I don't have a problem with Anakin being whiny. I do have a problem with the way the actor portrayed him in Ep2. At no point could I believe I was watching the young adult version of the little boy in Ep1. I don't give a damn about Vader yet. There's plenty of time for him to get from whiny adolescent to hate-filled badass later.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Knight Templar on January 12, 2004, 10:31:06 pm
Not to mention the uh.. excuse of a love story.

They could have just made it more realistic and explained that Anakin used the force to get Padme in bed.

:blah:
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: neo_hermes on January 12, 2004, 11:22:25 pm
:lol:
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Liberator on January 13, 2004, 01:34:29 am
It's funny, but also conceivable, as that would be a dead giveaway that he had fallen to the Dark Side.  

Which is the reason Luke and Leia were separated and taken as far from their father as possible.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Knight Templar on January 13, 2004, 02:05:54 am
Well duuuh...

My point was, that'd make a hell of a lot more sense then them actually falling in love... if they're onscreen chemistry was any indicator of the true story. :doubt:

Not to mention it'd make things generally more interesting.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: kode on January 13, 2004, 04:57:08 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
kill him with a toenail clipper


like in Thumb wars?

Loke Groundrunner: Oh no! They've been clipped!
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: J3Vr6 on January 13, 2004, 09:40:57 am
So does anyone know what the 3rd movie is going to be?  I've heard it takes place when they already have kids and when he finally turns to the darkside.

Also, Cartoon Network had a mini series called the Clone Wars or something a couple of months ago.  Was that supposed to be canon?  As in, what actually happened between part 2 and part 3?

I saw Return of the Jedi in the theaters on its original release but I was fairly young.  Original Star Wars are classics.

I can see why they would cut off Anakin's hand in the 2nd movie and it looks like a copy of what happened in Empire Strikes Back (that wsa the one, right?).  Vader did it to Luke as kind of a reminiscing of how he himself began to turn to the dark side as it happened to him when he was a starting Jedi.  Kind of like, "you'll be going down my path soon..."  Like Father like Son, sorta.
Title: Valid Reasons to hate SW 1 & 2
Post by: Warlock on January 13, 2004, 05:42:42 pm
IIRC Luke's hand being severed was meant to be a 'link' between them (seem to recall Lucas stating that in an interview,...not sure)
If nothing else it was done with Luke solely because of that scene, Vader had to end the fight without killing Luke,...yet leaving him powerless and vunerable at the same time. Vader's arm being severed,....well at least it beats the hell out of the "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" version,...were Luke (While possed by Ben) cuts Vader's hand off,...then Vader still manages to best him in combat,...only to drip over his own flippin severed hand and fall into a pit. :rolleyes:

Plus,... severing a limb is pretty much the best way to end a saber duel, in EU there's been about 15+ Jedi/Sith that had one thing or another sliced off.