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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joey_21 on January 15, 2004, 07:00:18 am
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Stumbled upon this (http://www.hard-light.net/vwbb/showthread.php?threadid=9616) over at VW.
Interplay representative on subject of Freespace 2:
Unfortunately we do not have any replacement CD's available for this game. It has been out of print for some time, and the games popularity quickly depleted our replacement stash.
I thought they depleted the stash themselves due to unpopularity. For example, they never properly advertised it leading the community to believe that Interplay made themselves sell FS2 so poorly, but if they ran out due to popularity, isn't there some kind of logic flaw? And shouldn't they be selling even more? :wtf:
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it was too popular than they thought it'd be, but not popular enough, prolly.
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Now that's just nuts.....
99.99999999% of the time a game that is more successful than otherwise anticipated is A) Kept in print as long as possible and B) a sequel (if appropriate) is comissioned.....
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:sigh:
At least they're aware it still exists... remember what happened last time someone asked about it?
Interplay: "We have a copyright on FS2?"
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INTARGAY IS TEH SUCK!!!!!!1112
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quit assumeing interplays PR drones are God
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Quite. There's even a grammatical mistake in that quote :)
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It would be nice if you quoted the rest of it, too. ;)
You will be happy to know, however, that we are planning on rereleasing this game in a limited edition. I don't know when this will happen, but it should be soon! Just keep your eyes on Interplay.com. We will definitely announce when it is back in the store.
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We just had a meeting about it this morning. There will be 2000 copies available, and only through the Interplay store. They will be numbered copies and will be selling for $49.95. We will probaby start taking pre-orders in a couple weeks. We will be sending out an email announcement, and also plastering it all over the site when it goes into the store.
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Uh....yay? Time to spam everyone with 'Buy FreeSpace' stickers? :D
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I think I'll buy one just for the colectors value
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$49.95 for a four-five year old game, don't think so.
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ROFL, That's good...
'Sorry we can't support this game any more because people liked it'
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Fifty dollars is a ****ing cheek
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Err... this is terrible, terrible news :nervous:. If this happens, FS2 instantly ceases to be abandonware... HotU becomes illegal, everything we've been telling people becomes wrong, Fractus' server becomes even more illegal... and all for 2000 copies available only from interplay's website? If it was 100,000 coopies, being released world wide, I'd be willing to take the loss, but 2000? This is... terrible...
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Please, please tell me this isn't going to affect Gamespy release with the SCP upgrades. :(
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
INTARGAY IS TEH SUCK!!!!!!1112
:nod:
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HotU was never legal. At best it was a grey area, but it was never out-and-out legal.
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Errrr... how can Interplay release a special edition of a game they allegedly don't own the rights to?
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Originally posted by mikhael
HotU was never legal. At best it was a grey area, but it was never out-and-out legal.
But, with interplay, one of the key companies in the commercial release of FS2, taking interest in it again and selling it for profit, it just became out and out illegal :(
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If they screw the SCP over after letting us do all this work.......
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I don't think they can damage the SCP - they were presumably OK with the SC release in the first place, and what we've done to it after that was pretty mush our business. What they can do is mess wth the HotU download that has apparently been responsible for the slow but steady influx of newbies of late, and possibly the help gamespy was going to be giving us, though I'm not really sure on that - depends on exactly what they were going to be doing...
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****.
BW is right, as far as i can see. but, has anyone actually seen anything of this outside this email? we have had other Interplay emails stating that they don't own the rights, as has been mentioned above. conflicting Helldesk geeks aren;t new, so i'd say wait and see.
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I think that what annoys me is they leave us to drum up new interest in FS2 etc, and then try to cash in on it.
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I'm not sure how seriously that tech help guy can be taken anyway. I would at least expect these guys to have proper grammar in their emails. And Interplay has said in the past that they don't own the FS copyrights anymore, so how are they supposed to do this even if they wanted to? Sorry if I am cynical, but this whole thing reeks of a hoax.
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All this said - guess we'll find out next week...
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Anyone try to figure out on why they're re-releasing it? If the game has stopped being printed years ago and suddenly comes back, doesn't that tell you that maybe something might be in the works in the future?
It's just like when a sequel of a movie is about to come out. They show the original movie on cable in every possible channel at every possible hour.
I'm not saying FS3 is coming out or anything, so don't rape me (well, maybe if you feed me grapes and touch me.... right there) but it seems a little strange to me that they'd re-release it just for the whim of it. I doubt they think they'd make a huge profit for just 2k games, even if they sold it for 50 beans.
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Upon consideration, I go with the Hoax option. Interplay have denied owning the rights, and don't you think it's handy that 'they' just had a meeting about it this morning?
How many people with that kind of decision making power replies in person to their Emails?
Flipside :D
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In theory, the SCP is protected under the presumption that it's just an advanced form of modding, no?
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if they ***** about HOTU and/or the gamespy relese,we could just remove the origonal campain and put in some of ours, if people want the origonal 'real' game they'd have to buy it (or spend five minutes on here and ask someone to upload it)
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All of the Execs at interplay where all smokin pot, and they're all cold turkey now, thus they decided to locate and retrieve the Fs2 license and redestribute there favorite game. :)
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Originally posted by an0n
In theory, the SCP is protected under the presumption that it's just an advanced form of modding, no?
More like, "In theory, the SCP is protected under the fact that Dave Baranec gave it to us with a "Here - go knock yourselves out - just don't touch PXO or MVE" tag attached. :D
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Pfff. All that means is if Interplay come a' knockin', the SCP gets another pennyless coder with too much time on their hands.
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This whole re-releaseing crap seems pretty suspicious to me
Interplay's just put my Gay-dar™ on Red Alert.
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
Anyone try to figure out on why they're re-releasing it? If the game has stopped being printed years ago and suddenly comes back, doesn't that tell you that maybe something might be in the works in the future?
It's just like when a sequel of a movie is about to come out. They show the original movie on cable in every possible channel at every possible hour.
Okay, the next person who so much as suggests the possibility of FS3 will die.
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Okay, the next person who so much as suggests the possibility of FS3 will die.
Must...not...say...it....
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this is starting to sound like a conspiracy :rolleyes:
howz about everyone just wait for interplay to show something up on their site on the 26th... :nod:
right now they ain't owe anything :p
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Okay, the next person who so much as suggests the possibility of FS3 will die.
FS3 might happen.
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Are Interplay, in a financial sense, completely f*cked? Maybe they found the keys to a warehouse and decided to have a boot sale.
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*sandwhich dies* :p
:D
Anyway, Interplay CAN'T do ANYTHING to us cause they don't own the liscence! Remember that biiiigggg discussion we had awhile back about that? If this is true, then we have reason to believe that THAT was true, too. So, they CAN'T blast us with copywrite infrigment, cause they don't HAVE it.
And they CAN'T take the SCP and use it cause ANY program with open-source code in it becomes open-source, according to U.S. Law (and Intercrap is a U.S. based company, is it not?)
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aren't they owned by frenchies?
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Originally posted by kode
aren't they owned by frenchies?
if they are, the may be more open to asians than americans when it comes to subtle hinting :D
Think interplay was taken over by THQ, but not too sure...
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voltion was taken over by THQ, that's probably what you're thinking of.... I had read about Infogrames taking over Interplay, but I'm not sure if it ever went through.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
*sandwhich dies* :p
Oh, come on... Is it that hard to spell my nic right? It's not like I'm "turret" or something. :rolleyes:
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U guys keep crying that Interplay sold the rights but then seconds later always say "If that's true..." or "We heard that from..." Which doesn't mean that it's fact. What? Supposedly some person who picks up the phone, who is probably in a room with 50 other customer service reps picking their noses and hates their job, says they sold it and it's fact? Admit it, guys, no one knows poop on who owns what. Kazan I think was the only one who looked up the trademark or something and it was still owned by Interplay.
SO.... in the same stroke as saying "we think they sold it," we could then say "I think they still own it."
I think Xellion has the right idea and just wait to see if its BS or not. Personally? I think it's a hoax. I can't possibly see why they would just sell a limited amount of copies of a game that's 5 years old and seriously outdated. Even in financial crisis selling 2k games wouldn't take them out of the red.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Oh, come on... Is it that hard to spell my nic right? It's not like I'm "turret" or something. :rolleyes:
Or even something as difficult as 'unknown'.
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:lol:
I say wait and see...
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Originally posted by Sandwich
FS3 might happen.
*BANG*
*thump*
Who else wants to die today?
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Who else wants to die today?
you?
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
*BANG*
*thump*
Who else wants to die today?
*click*
*ban*
Who else indeed. ;)
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I'm just going to wait this out. Probably going to order a copy of the collectors' edition, too, if this is real.
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Originally posted by Setekh
I'm just going to wait this out. Probably going to order a copy of the collectors' edition, too, if this is real.
do they ship to australia? they don't seem to ship to sweden.
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Originally posted by kode
do they ship to australia?
Yep... well thats what they said last time I spoke with them :D
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Originally posted by Xelion
Yep... well thats what they said last time I spoke with them :D
odd.
https://interplay-store.com:443//OnlineHelpPages/help_shipping.asp?find%5Fcategory=&find%5Fdescription=&find%5Fpart%5Fdesc=#rates-policies
At this time, we only offer shipping to the US and Canada.
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Looking at rates and policies on interplay is like looking at last years newspaper if even that :nod: .
Sending an email to them would get a more precise response and thats what I done a while back. They said we can ship to Australia, of course they gave me the shipping rates and insurance charges which at the time added about US$25... :eek: and the aussie dollar wasn't so good and that priced the whole order at about AU$140
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Originally posted by Xelion
Looking at rates and policies on interplay is like looking at last years newspaper if even that :nod: .
yeah, it's always stupid to actually assume that a million dollar company keeps their somewhat newly redesigned site somewhat updated. htf could I have done such a mistake?
whatever
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Do any of you care about NEW copies of FS2?
I mean I am sure my company (or rather the company that employs me) would be willing to run oh say 1000 disks if one of you posed as a retail customer or distributor. After all schoolpop retail associates (j&r music world and the other place) did it!! They ordered 250 new copies to be printed from OUR master copies last october!!!
Ain't that a kick in the ass I will ask my boss that if they ever go bad or retire the master discs that I WANT THEM! now that could be a cool collectable. This set of three discs created thousands of copies of FS2, perhaps some of the very discs you are using right now ;)
I'm curious, since I have only worked there a year and a half, did Interplay order the discs to be created ONLY rom my employer, or were there other plants that produced the cd's???
Someone mentioned that Interplay may not OWN fs2 anymore. IF that IS true that would explain how J&R music world was able to order the NON -retail discs from us without Interplay's permission (after all what's 250 measly copies? not enough for a retail chain, more likely for one small store). The disc created by OUR master copies have printed on them BUNDLED SOFTWARE, NOT FOR RETAIL OR RESALE.. The very act of selling them is a breech of law :) cool huh?
Best part of it all I got 6 brand new sets and numerous replacements for disks 1 and 3 Muhahaha
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Originally posted by Star Dragon
Do any of you care about NEW copies of FS2?
Sort of! That gave me an idea :thepimp: maybe there could be an additional fourth disc and at the component install screen of the installation you could add an scp modifications checkbox. Something this big would no doubt be really cool :nod: , if you wanted you could also change the existing cd covers to something more recent. :D
Originally posted by Star Dragon
The disc created by OUR master copies have printed on them BUNDLED SOFTWARE, NOT FOR RETAIL OR RESALE.. The very act of selling them is a breech of law :) cool huh?
What could you possibly bundle a game with besides a joystick or controller, oh and a graphics card....
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http://interplay-store.com/product.asp?part_no=FG-W58-1176-1&find%5Fcategory=&find%5Fdescription=&find%5Fpart%5Fdesc=&IPPC=
:D
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Yippee!
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What does it say on the (gold bit) box? 20 new...something or other?
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It looks like "20 Additional Missions" to me, could be wrong. Well spotted, Mike. :)
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its allready on the list of top 10 bestsellers
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interplay better not try anything stupid when it comes to the SCP.....or their will be hell to pay.
windrunner: where?
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on thier frontpage. www.interplay-store.com
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*Yoink!*
'aving one of those..... :D
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So, I already got me a copy of FS2... should I go and buy another one? Hm....... naw...
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What is in the SOTY that isn't in the regular version?
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The one I bought was the Game of the Year addition and it has *thinks* The templar missions (I think) which is a Vasudan campaign...
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That's in the regular version.
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The single player version isn't.
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The one thing I've never understood...
A single-player campaign with over 30 missions. New scenarios include flying with Vasudan squadrons, piloting advanced stealth fighters, and "painting" targets with TAG (Target Acquisition & Guidance) missiles.
Since when has anyone EVER cared about the TAG missiles? Nobody likes them, and they do no good. It's always mystefied me as to why Interplay advertises that as a highlight of the game...
On another note: YAY! :cool:
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I remember playing a nebula mission which used the TAG in an EMP nebula. The mission was a lot of fun because of that. Unfortunately I can't remember which campaign it was from.
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It was from the original campaign. You had to fly the bat in a test of the TAG missiles when shivans attack in that nebula. At least I think it was like that.
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Yeah. For one mission. Completely not highlightable, and after you used the TAG-a in that mission they came out with the TAG-b and TAG-c which were useless.
And that is what the mission was...the one where the scout comes back and is freaking out because there are so many Shivans coming. :D
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There was a TAG mission in CoW as well... I think.
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Well, I just placed my order for one, as my copy of FS2 is only the CD's and the jewl case I got at EB for five bucks, and the discs are in less than perfect condition.
I for one, think that this re-relase is a great thing, for reasons like mine. I have spent years and years and years looking for a copy of the game, and I really didnt feel like paying 70+ bucks for the game on Ebay, so I had to resort to scrounging the EB's and other local game stores for my copy, and I found it, however lacking it is. Now I have a chance to get a full copy of the game, with all its manual and extra goodness. Hell, this thing even has 20 bonus missions! Atleast thats what the box says...... Maybe it is the OEM set that deals with the Collossus? That'd be sweeeet. Hopefully they release those missions as a download later for those of you who arent buying it this time around.
p.s. FS-3 what what. :lol:
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wait-wait-wait.... 20th[/th] anniversary edition? :wtf:
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Probably for Interplay's 20th anniversary, not fs2.:D
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
There was a TAG mission in CoW as well... I think.
Um, yep. the one where you have to TAG a Typhons' weapons sytems in low orbit around the Upuaat gas giant. Don't think i was ever 100% happy with that one, natch.
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
It was from the original campaign. You had to fly the bat in a test of the TAG missiles when shivans attack in that nebula. At least I think it was like that.
Umm. No. Not the mission I was thinking of. This one was in a full EMP nebula and you had to tag an installation so that a nearby capship could fire its main guns at it.
IIRC I offered to play test it for the author but I don't remember if it was ever released. It was from a couple of years back. If it wasn't released it would be a real pity cause the missions I played were pretty inventive.
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those 20 additional missions probably are the multi player missions we all know :rolleyes:
You KNOW interplay has no chance to do any (good) missions -- and V surely didn't make it for them :)
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maybe..........they stole some from us? :shaking:
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Lightning Marshall cut a deal with the devil himself.
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Originally posted by Corsair
The one thing I've never understood...
Since when has anyone EVER cared about the TAG missiles? Nobody likes them, and they do no good. It's always mystefied me as to why Interplay advertises that as a highlight of the game...
I'm thinking, maybe it's because a feature that other flight sims don't have. Sure, it's not used very much in the game, but what does that matter to the marketing? It has "ooh, cool" factor. ;)