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Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 16, 2004, 01:48:04 pm
The Federation Fighter "Peregrine"

Model/Texture -  Zorg / Morpheus

(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Peregrine.JPG)

http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Peregrine.zip
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 16, 2004, 01:58:58 pm
The mission file REQUIRES the "Bird of Prey" and the "Weapons Addon". I had uploaded crash fixes for all the playable craft in

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,19747.0.html

 It had something to do with dock and path points.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: KARMA on January 16, 2004, 03:02:34 pm
a bit cartoonist, but not bad at all
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: aldo_14 on January 16, 2004, 03:35:26 pm
not too sure on those textures, actually.  (In comparison to the other models you've posted, obviously, cos they looked ****-hot IMHO)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: J3Vr6 on January 16, 2004, 03:36:23 pm
oh, well i posted in the other thread, but it looks cell shaded to me.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 16, 2004, 03:57:53 pm
Like I stated in the top of this thread, this is ship made by Zorg / Morpheus. The textures are all 256x256. I don't have time to recreate textures but since this is one of my favorite ships, its in my list of retexuring, including the Defiant.

I didn't beef up the contrast in the specular textures. But it looks better when you're playing it in game vs judging a screen cap. Screen shots don't capture the specularr changes in shading.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Setekh on January 16, 2004, 10:13:42 pm
Nice conversion. It run okay?
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Trivial Psychic on January 16, 2004, 11:30:59 pm
After checking the model in ModView, I find that the fire-points are off.  From what I know, the Periguine carries 2 torp. bays, (which are located correctly from what I can see),  a pair of light pulse cannons, as well as a single chin-mounted turret, and possibly another on the aft dorsal, between the engine nacelles.  Both turrets are not present on this model, and the fire-points for the pulse cannons are too far out on the wings.  There also appears to be 4 wing fire-points on this model, in 2 banks, which AFAIK, shouldn't be.  There should only be one primary bank of 2 points, matching up with the cannon barrels, just inboard of the wing roots, as mentioned above.  Other than that, its a good model.

Later!
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 03:26:38 am
Um,... ok.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Gloriano on January 17, 2004, 05:30:19 am
:) :yes:
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 17, 2004, 08:42:07 am
and some action shots, to break it in :)



(http://anandraj.sphosting.com/Freespace2/fedfighter.JPG)

(http://anandraj.sphosting.com/Freespace2/fedfighter2.JPG)

(http://anandraj.sphosting.com/Freespace2/fedfighter3.JPG)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: an0n on January 17, 2004, 09:01:31 am
That's not a Peregrine.

That's a 'Federation Fighter'.

The Peregrine is the 'Maquis Fighter'.

This one:
(http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tactics/Maquis.jpg)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Unknown Target on January 17, 2004, 12:59:06 pm
Those action shots are of a...forgot the name, one of the bomberes from Inferno :P
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 01:11:10 pm
OK, I have different sources saying different names for this fighter. I always thought it was generically called a raider and in Voyager, Chakote's Maquis Raider, pictured above by Anon was the Peregrine.

www.BCFiles.com says otherwise as well as www.ditl.org which is the sight I get all my technical references and size measurements. A number of other sites I found searching through yahoo says the same thing. Can anyone clear this confusion up please? I'm ready to rename it as Anon calls it.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: aldo_14 on January 17, 2004, 01:24:48 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
Those action shots are of a...forgot the name, one of the bomberes from Inferno :P


Peregrine.  i make no excuses.... I made that one before I had either 3ds max or photoshop (or an y mapping ability).  Especially as that pic is the low res textures as far I can tell.


(for point of reference, I hate the appearance of pretty much everything i made before CoW, and some of the stuff after that)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 01:46:16 pm
OK, my research lead me to a web consensus that it is called the Peregrine. Many sites refer to Chakote's Maquis ship as Peregrine, but on the contrary, he himself says its an "Antares" class ship. That name doesn't even ring any bells for me. I went to the model kit site by AMT/Ertl, and they just call the pictured ship  Anon posted as' Maquis Ship", but the majority of the sites I visited named it the Peregrine. Theres another big victory for Trek continuity.  BLARG!!!

And Singh, if you're gonna post actions shots, please keep it relevent to the thread. That doesn't look like the "Peregrine" fighter that this thread is all about. =)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Bobboau on January 17, 2004, 02:04:39 pm
I thought the maquis ships were modified versons of federation ships, so the nameing might hav still been used by the maquis  version
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: an0n on January 17, 2004, 02:12:13 pm
I thought the Antares was a freighter?
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 03:27:38 pm
Not the Peregrine, but still Star Trek and good uns at that. I'll cap the fighter later.

More screens for the masses:
(http://swooh.com/peon/mattB/downloads/sttcaction1.jpg)
(http://swooh.com/peon/mattB/downloads/sttcaction2.jpg)
(http://swooh.com/peon/mattB/downloads/sttcaction3.jpg)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 03:45:47 pm
Thats a great beauty shop of the Galaxy. I had no idea you can run the game in resolutions higher than 1024x768!? I'll have a runabout ready soon, so get ready to defend the Odyssey and alter its trajic history if you can!
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 03:50:45 pm
:lol: Superb - I was hoping you'd say that.

If you use the latest launcher for the SCP and select "non-standard modes" in the video tab u can select any res your system supports.

 Now all thats needed is a way to change the warp.... :D

[q]Thats a great beauty shot of the Galaxy.[/q]

Use it as you wish. :)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 17, 2004, 04:35:15 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Omniscaper
OK, my research lead me to a web consensus that it is called the Peregrine. Many sites refer to Chakote's Maquis ship as Peregrine, but on the contrary, he himself says its an "Antares" class ship. That name doesn't even ring any bells for me. I went to the model kit site by AMT/Ertl, and they just call the pictured ship  Anon posted as' Maquis Ship", but the majority of the sites I visited named it the Peregrine. Theres another big victory for Trek continuity.  BLARG!!!

And Singh, if you're gonna post actions shots, please keep it relevent to the thread. That doesn't look like the "Peregrine" fighter that this thread is all about. =)


Thing is......FRED lists it as the Peregrine, and it IS firing phasers.....
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 17, 2004, 04:36:38 pm
checked- appeared i had the wrong Peregrine in the directory......replaced and fixed, more pics soon :)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 17, 2004, 05:05:04 pm
actaully......make that I've given up on your ships Omni. They are just too damn system intensive for me to FRED or use in proper missions (i just tried attacking nahema bombers with an Akira in the scene, and it crashed).

I give up. You win.

*goes back to MG*
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 06:29:42 pm
I've yet to release the lowres textures for the ships and the Galaxy is the only one with LODS. These ships are geared toward the middle to high end systems with at least a 1.2 ghz cpu and at least a Radeon 9500pro or Geforce4 Ti. With the Galaxy, just turn down the detail level in the game's options.

The Akira has no LODs and is a pretty hefty model (12k)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 07:14:45 pm
But all worth it ;)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 07:16:09 pm
I feel better now. I was beginning to wonder if ANYONE has been able to use these models. Otherwise I'd just stop with this obsession with digital purity.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 07:22:30 pm
Continue it. Or else. :D

My system is middle of the road imo, and it eats this for breakfast once the game's own loading system gets out the way. No reason to cut quality now.

I'm off to cap that fighter now...
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 07:33:56 pm
I've discovered that using the DDS (direct-x) format for textures, cuts loading times by 75 percent. If you try the uber textures for the Sovereign, which uses DDS, you should notice a difference in load time. I haven't had the time to convert the source TGA textures to the DDS format. Its far better than the uncompressed PCX and its 256 color limitation. I'm just not sure how glitchy the support dor DDS is, thats why I settled for PCX.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 07:43:18 pm
(http://swooh.com/peon/mattB/downloads/sttcaction4.jpg)
(http://swooh.com/peon/mattB/downloads/sttcaction5.jpg)
(http://swooh.com/peon/mattB/downloads/sttcaction6.jpg)

She's not a very pretty little bugger, I'll admit.
:blah:

It was hard to get any glory shots, mainly because I was having my arse kicked by three Dominion fighters at the time with their bleeding beam weapons.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 07:45:29 pm
[q]If you try the uber textures for the Sovereign, which uses DDS, you should notice a difference in load time[/q]

Yeah man, she loads like a dream (well, relatively) with the high quality textures. If I get the tools I'll convert for ya any of the other textures I downloaded.

Important point tho: the dds textures only work if placed in the maps directory, but not if they're kept in the VP.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 17, 2004, 07:50:03 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Omniscaper
I've yet to release the lowres textures for the ships and the Galaxy is the only one with LODS. These ships are geared toward the middle to high end systems with at least a 1.2 ghz cpu and at least a Radeon 9500pro or Geforce4 Ti. With the Galaxy, just turn down the detail level in the game's options.

The Akira has no LODs and is a pretty hefty model (12k)


I've turned it down as far as it will go. Only was able to play the mission with ~no lighting, no textures, crappy models and what-ever else you can think of.

I'll have to forget the Peregine- i dont think i'll be able to get descent action shots without crashing to desktop. But I do have a few pics of the BoP...

(btw I have a P4 1.6 Ghz system, but my card is SiS.....any idea how to improve performance?? I also have 288MB Ram, but no more than 140 shows free at any one time on FreeRam)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 07:55:29 pm
My first advice if I may, is to upgrade memory and video card. 512MB at least and an FX5600 or ati 9600 gfx card.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 07:56:20 pm
SIS!? OUCH!!! My condolences. I'm sorry Singh, your graphics card is in the A$$ end of space. Hell, even the Intel chipset destroys it. I had that card once, it barely managed quake3 nevermind today's uber games. Highly recommended to check out ebay or pricewatch.com You can get a pretty descent card for 120 bucks or yen or whatever.

UPDATE: I'll have a texture upgrade on the PEREGRINE and a Beta version Runabout within the hour.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 17, 2004, 08:01:14 pm
I hate microsoft sized downloads!
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 17, 2004, 08:44:28 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vyper
My first advice if I may, is to upgrade memory and video card. 512MB at least and an FX5600 or ati 9600 gfx card.


Rich bugger...........  

My uncle is giving me approx 140 Singapore $ to go buy a card for him. Thing is, i dont know what constitutes as a decent card for that price range......any suggestions? :)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 17, 2004, 09:45:12 pm
I reccomend an ATI Radeon, starting at the 9500pro series and up. You can probably get a good deal on a 9600 in www.pricewatch.com or Ebay.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Bobboau on January 17, 2004, 10:11:28 pm
you know, there's no way around it, this model, especaly in comparasin with the others, sucks

maybe better textures can save it, but even then, the geometry is still realy low poly
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 17, 2004, 10:25:22 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Omniscaper
I reccomend an ATI Radeon, starting at the 9500pro series and up. You can probably get a good deal on a 9600 in www.pricewatch.com or Ebay.


and again i qoute
Quote

you Rich people...........

cant afford that stuff- so out of the question. Not to mention America doesnt ship to singapore ;)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Bobboau on January 17, 2004, 10:40:09 pm
too bad there is no hardware equivilent to warez 'eh
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 18, 2004, 12:10:35 am
I've uploaded the texture upgrade which is basically a beefed up specular map.

(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Danube2.JPG)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Anaz on January 18, 2004, 12:34:24 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
too bad there is no hardware equivilent to warez 'eh


There is bob...it's called a crowbar...or a shotgun...
Title: name
Post by: Star Dragon on January 18, 2004, 01:47:29 am
Semi-officially it is teh Peregine BUT another (and more official title is this): The Federation Tactical Fighter...

  Now do the Phoenix... :) Do yo u need the model?
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 18, 2004, 01:52:45 am
Zephrin Cochrane's warp 1 ship? I don't think that ship made the cut in the Dominion war.

Tangeant: This fighter design I believe was recycled in an episode of Voyager. It was an alien ship that had exactly the same design, but a different colorsheme and could fit an extra 50 people. Hows that for lazy design.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Singh on January 18, 2004, 02:10:05 am
My last spam in this thread, i promise. After this, i head on over to the BoP thread :D

(http://anandraj.sphosting.com/Freespace2/peregrine2.JPG)

(http://anandraj.sphosting.com/Freespace2/peregrine.JPG)
Title: no!
Post by: Star Dragon on January 18, 2004, 04:06:03 am
OPS! my bad.. It's not called Phoenix (though there could be qa fighter called that too)

   I mean the HORNET fighter! the one with the cool wing and rear shape but the ugly yellow huge ass deflector! (maybe you can alter the model)... The Hornet is one of teh Primary fighters launched from the USS Ark Royal Carrier.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: SuperCoolAl on January 18, 2004, 04:35:27 am
if you want a reason to download the star trek mods, here it is

FS2 actually does a decent job of these battles

(http://www.holytrinitybradford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/screen04.JPG)
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 18, 2004, 10:58:29 am
[q] I mean the HORNET fighter! the one with the cool wing and rear shape but the ugly yellow huge ass deflector! (maybe you can alter the model)... The Hornet is one of teh Primary fighters launched from the USS Ark Royal Carrier.[/q]

Wot are you on about?
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 18, 2004, 11:02:58 am
Its some Kirk era fighter created in some unknown Trek franchise branch off, probably a novel.

Still off on the timeline. Let me finish off this era's fleet before I go backward. I was gonna use the Hornet as the main fighter for that time period.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Alan Bolte on January 18, 2004, 07:34:58 pm
The textures, and possibly the model, are definitely going to have to be redone if you want it up to the beauty standards of the cap ships. However, glad to see we have a proper fighter ready to fly.

Also, is it just me, or do the shine maps on the Galaxy need a bit of work still?
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 18, 2004, 07:40:12 pm
Its really not that hard to adjust the textures, people. Just break out photoshop or some other image manipulating program and adjust the shinemap's brightness and contrast. I personally think the Galaxy is perfect texturewise, except for the underside saucer section which was a transplant I made for this unfinished model. Scotchy is still working on the Galaxy.

I'm simply wanted to laydown some kind of Trek foundation so that others can start perfecting it. Being a one man team is no fun at all.
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: vyper on January 18, 2004, 07:43:16 pm
Like I've said, I'll do file conversion on the textures if u send me the soruce tga's n such. *hopes this thing works*
Title: Federation Peregrine Fighter!!!
Post by: Omniscaper on January 18, 2004, 07:46:25 pm
You can get the textures from the source, www.bcfiles.com
Thats where I get most of my models for conversions. The only thing that sucks about the DDS format is that Fred, modelview, and PCS doesn't like to display them. I'll gather up the textures shortly if you do not want to do the digging.