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Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Raven2001 on January 20, 2004, 01:27:19 pm: Ok fellows, I took the effort of making a more detailed version of Nico's Ryujin destroyer... I diverged a bit from the original, making this version an hybrid of both the 1st and 2nd versions that he made... here goes :)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Raven/CIMShipPics/Ryujin 1.jpg)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Raven/CIMShipPics/Ryujin 2.jpg)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Raven/CIMShipPics/Ryujin 3.jpg)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Raven/CIMShipPics/Ryujin 4.jpg)
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Taristin on January 20, 2004, 01:31:41 pm: ...Don't realy like it... and to save the aotd babies the posting... "Isn't that one skin from AotD? Bahhhh!!!!!111!11oneoneone"
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: pasti on January 20, 2004, 01:34:05 pm: Cool....
Nice work Raven....
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Post by: Raven2001 on January 20, 2004, 01:35:22 pm: Well those textures were not made by anyone in aotd, but by the ppl of starwars, so I see no prob using it :P

oh, as I recall, both you and I ARE aotd babies :D
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: TopAce on January 20, 2004, 01:51:00 pm: Texturing is good, shape is one I don't like. Details look detailed. :)
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Post by: Liberator on January 20, 2004, 02:04:25 pm: Looks vaguely like the Tereus. Not that thats bad or anything.:D
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Post by: Taristin on January 20, 2004, 02:08:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raven2001
Well those textures were not made by anyone in aotd, but by the ppl of starwars, so I see no prob using it :P

oh, as I recall, both you and I ARE aotd babies :D

Yes, yes, I only posted it because I had to hear it. I personally have no problem with it. ;)
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: TopAce on January 20, 2004, 02:17:19 pm: It is using some of the textures of Jedi Outcast.
From: imp_detention and doomgiver. Which texture pack contains that big plating texture? It looks like as it were the one of the Cairn.
It is definitely that. From the cairn_dock1.
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Post by: Taristin on January 20, 2004, 02:17:49 pm: Jedi Knights 2 actually... :doubt:

Edit: I want some HALO textures... but I don't have the PC version of the game, and I doubt I can extract anything from the Xbox disc...
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: TopAce on January 20, 2004, 02:20:05 pm: Jedi Knigjht 2 = Jedi outcast :ha:
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Post by: Drew on January 20, 2004, 02:45:14 pm: halo textures are bumpmaps\shinemaps\glowmaps all rolled into one.... they wouldt look very pretty in FS2
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Raven2001 on January 20, 2004, 02:57:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
Looks vaguely like the Tereus. Not that thats bad or anything.:D

The Tereus was the first version of the Ryujin ;7
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Terawatt_99 on January 20, 2004, 04:01:52 pm: looks kinda like the result of some unholy sexual act between a deimos and an orion...
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Post by: Stealth[cro] on January 20, 2004, 04:46:07 pm: Very nice, Raven... a distant relative of the GTD Orion, perhaps? ;7
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Post by: Knight Templar on January 20, 2004, 07:41:45 pm: Neat ship. :yes:
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Post by: mikhael on January 20, 2004, 09:21:03 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Terawatt_99
looks kinda like the result of some unholy sexual act between a deimos and an orion...

And keeping the only good parts of either the Orion or the Deimos (two of the ugliest, most annoying ships in the game). This actually looks good, compared to those other two monstrosities.

Good job, Venom and Raven.
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Killfrenzy on January 20, 2004, 10:18:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
Jedi Knigjht 2 = Jedi outcast :ha:

Which is Dark Forces 3 as we all know. :D

And wrt. the ship, why do I think 'Assualt Rifle and Grenade Launcher Combo' when I look at it? :D
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Liberator on January 20, 2004, 10:27:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael

And keeping the only good parts of either the Orion or the Deimos (two of the ugliest, most annoying ships in the game). This actually looks good, compared to those other two monstrosities.

Good job, Venom and Raven.

But the Orion is the best looking big ship in FS1 and the Deimos the best looking Terran ship in FS2!:thepimp:
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Post by: Taristin on January 20, 2004, 10:36:23 pm: Point made. Editted.
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Post by: IPAndrews on January 21, 2004, 04:39:13 am: Nothing wrong with it. Ugly. Blocky. Freespacey.
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Post by: KARMA on January 21, 2004, 04:44:52 am: except for some textures, can someone tell me where the hell you see a relationship with a deimos????
anyway, with a retexturing she could become a nice orion-a or, maybe better, a terran ship of the same era and design of orion.
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Post by: Stealth[cro] on January 21, 2004, 06:53:54 am: Quote
Originally posted by Killfrenzy

And wrt. the ship, why do I think 'Assualt Rifle and Grenade Launcher Combo' when I look at it? :D
Very good analogy there... guess we know where the beam cannons are, right? :devil:
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Post by: SadisticSid on January 21, 2004, 07:11:33 am: It's nothing compared to your other work.
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: pyro-manic on January 21, 2004, 08:49:09 am: Looks good, but I hate that model. Sorry....
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Post by: Baron MacDoblin on January 21, 2004, 10:39:37 am: I have to agree: the modeling is top, but the design itself looks like an Orion ... on its side ... with ... things ... sticking ... out ...
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Post by: Nico on January 21, 2004, 11:17:41 am: No offense Raven, but I don't like the new skin...
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: mikhael on January 21, 2004, 12:09:20 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator

But the Orion is the best looking big ship in FS1 and the Deimos the best looking Terran ship in FS2!:thepimp:

They are? Somehow I must have missed that. I prefer the Fenris/Leviathin to the Orion any day. At least it looks like a warship and not the result of someone intersecting three large boxes. The Deimos is just as ugly. Give me the Hatshepsut or even the hideous Hecate any day.
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 21, 2004, 12:14:51 pm: Needs a reskin. Use the original Tau textures.
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Post by: Baron MacDoblin on January 21, 2004, 12:52:22 pm: I should add that while I don't personally like the design, I don't think it should necessarily be abandoned, either ... I mean, I think the Orion itself is ugly as goat.se and it's my favorite ship in all of FS :)

Also - and this is something a lot of scifi forgets - warships aren't made to be pretty. It's a bonus, but not its purpose. A warship's purpose, obviously, is to blow **** up.
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Post by: Gloriano on January 21, 2004, 01:16:11 pm: those textures are bad you got talent to do better texture job
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Post by: Raven2001 on January 21, 2004, 03:40:47 pm: Well, about the textures, it has now a new texture theme: dark and freespacey... I won't show it yet... only when I have a site for CIM...

I will not use the Tau textures because they simply don't fit my purposes...

As for the Orion and Deimos, I think they are very pretty, and the Deimos is the most "exotic" looking terran ship in FS2 :)
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Post by: Akalabeth Angel on January 21, 2004, 04:00:58 pm: Isn't that a Tereus as someone said? Looks like one anyhow. I don't much care for the skin either, the red and purple/grey clash. Maybe if you got rid of one or the other it'd look better.

Also, when people post links for images in posts can they avoid finalnames with spaces in them? Such as "Ryujin 4.jpg"? I always have to open it in a new window and at 20% in the space. A simple underscore (Ryukin_4.jpg) or lack of space altogether would make it accessible for all sytems I would think.
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Post by: KARMA on January 21, 2004, 04:31:54 pm: well I don't hate the orion and the deimos, althought they aren't exactly the best example of a starship in the sci-fi games history.
Actually this can be said for most of the capships in fs2, I dare, and some are even worse than orion or deimos. And I have to say that the orion with glowmaps isn't really that bad.
Personally I think that 90% of the problem lay in the textures/uvmaps, since the designs aren't usually that bad.
The deimos shape for example remind me a galeon, wich could be cool, but as she is, she looks just like a brunch of polys with 3 textures tiled almost randomly.
Given a lot free time I could completely retexture she with custom maps, and I'm sure she could become a kickass ship. Problem is that I don't have 20 hours to spend in doing this:/
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: aldo_14 on January 21, 2004, 04:37:37 pm: *launches bitter tirade on Aeolus and Hecate*

:)

Think dark will suit this a lot more, BTW Raven. Good model, think the textures as in the piccies are too light, though. Not enough contrast, IMO.
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Hamano on January 21, 2004, 04:45:47 pm: Is "Ryujin" from Japanese word?
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: aldo_14 on January 21, 2004, 04:49:26 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Hamano
Is "Ryujin" from Japanese word?

Would be, I believe. Venom/Nico is a big fan of anime and soforth unless I'm mistaken.

Think all the Tau designs had Japanese / Japanese sounding names.
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Post by: Zarax on January 21, 2004, 05:11:17 pm: Hopes to get it available ingame?
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Post by: Knight Templar on January 21, 2004, 06:02:21 pm: I liked the textures. They look EA-ish, but with heavy armour.
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Post by: Taristin on January 21, 2004, 07:02:38 pm: Personally, I think there's not enough contrast. The light blue ctile4a shouldn't be used with that larger grey/blue plating you have on there. Use something darker, and it'll change the entire look of the model.
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Post by: Gloriano on January 22, 2004, 09:34:50 am: Quote
Originally posted by Hamano
Is "Ryujin" from Japanese word?

It's name for japanese mythology creature (Dragon god of Sea
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Nico on January 22, 2004, 10:21:10 am: Voila.
If I were to redesign that ship, I'd use a lot of tubular sections, now, kind of lots of huge pipes, and I'd make the hull plates so they look like they're placed over more of those pipes.
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Havock on January 23, 2004, 11:36:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Terawatt_99
looks kinda like the result of some unholy sexual act between a deimos and an orion...

and a bit of hippocrate.
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Post by: Woolie Wool on January 23, 2004, 01:56:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Nico
Voila.
If I were to redesign that ship, I'd use a lot of tubular sections, now, kind of lots of huge pipes, and I'd make the hull plates so they look like they're placed over more of those pipes.

That sounds too B5ish.
Title: GTD Ryujin
Post by: Nico on January 23, 2004, 07:21:25 pm: I never really watched B5 ( save for the movies ), so I couldn't tell, but the B5 ships I've seen didn't have tubular structures at all :doubt:
Anyway, no need to argue over that since the "if" is to be taken as "it will never be done".