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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: adwight on January 25, 2004, 11:28:51 pm

Title: Deep Impact
Post by: adwight on January 25, 2004, 11:28:51 pm
Well I just saw this movie on CBS, as it was the Sunday night movie.  I actually rather enjoyed this movie, albeit a little cliche with the whole asteroid thing, it was well done and worth seeing.  What do you guys think of it?  The only thing it was missing was more rebuilding and stuff, which would have been better.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Bobboau on January 25, 2004, 11:42:19 pm
didn't even know it was on, I don't think I've seen 10 seconds of CBS in the past two years, I so rarely venture in that regon of the dial.

I think asteroid impacts are a potential we should take more seriusly, they are the only natural disaster that can wipe us out, and the only one we can posably stop
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: mikhael on January 25, 2004, 11:45:34 pm
I'm with Bob on that one. Also suggest Michael Flynn's Firestar and its sequels. Damn good reads. I think its Michael Flynn, but I'm too lazy to verify. Firestar, Lodestar, another one I can't remember, and Rogue Star are the titles. Pretty kickass.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Bobboau on January 25, 2004, 11:55:08 pm
odds are we would end up with a large hole in our planet before we even knew we were in danger, _right now_ a rock the size of Road Island could impact somewere, and you could be seconds away from dieing in a horable way, there could be a shockwave and pulses of torn earth raceing at you.
we would have no idea, simply becase we arn't looking for it
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Knight Templar on January 25, 2004, 11:59:14 pm
Rhode Island :p

The big splash it made was cool. And the fuxored White House. I keep telling everyone, after the disgruntled mountain men and unibombers move out, they should move the House to Colorado.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Bobboau on January 26, 2004, 12:02:10 am
uh, you know something that big would probly kill billions
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Knight Templar on January 26, 2004, 12:04:35 am
The unibomber part or the moving of the White House? :wtf:
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: neo_hermes on January 26, 2004, 12:09:56 am
the Asteroid the size rhode island is what he's talking about KT
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: karajorma on January 26, 2004, 06:13:25 am
What's scary is not the big ones (those are plenty scary but an asteroid that size would probably be spotted before impact and give you a chance to run about screaming for a few days before you died.)

What really worries me is small metallic asteroids. The asteroid that caused the Wabar impact was only 10m in size and yet had the power of an atomic weapon. Fortunately it went off in a remote desert area of Arabia so no one barely noticed it. It left a crater 500m by 1km. Imagine what would happen if that hit somewhere inhabited!

Have a look at http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/jwynn/3wabar.html for more info.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: FreeTerran on January 26, 2004, 07:57:01 am
oh yeah i love that movie :D
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Gloriano on January 26, 2004, 07:59:32 am
it's not like Armageddon but it's still very good
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: pyro-manic on January 26, 2004, 08:11:58 am
Bleh. It was all "Oh, god, the entire Eastern Seaboard has been wiped out! It's the end of the world!" But they completely ignored the rest of the world. Basically no mention of Europe or Africa at all.

Oh, and the fact that at the end there was half the Capitol Building still sitting there and being recogniseable as such. Nothing built by humans could take an impact like that. Kinda stupid "Yeah, we're Americans! See - we're invincible!" type thing there.

I dunno - I just don't like the film, to be honest. Oh, and another thing - why did the rover things they landed on the rock with have miniguns on? Surely they wouldn't work in space (no oxygen to react with the propellant)?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: J3Vr6 on January 26, 2004, 09:00:20 am
Deer Impact was the more realistic of the asteroid movies (ie. Armageddon).  A panel of scientists analyzied the two films for consistency and realism and all agreed that Armageddon was done for the hollywood flair.  Deep Impact had a more realistic impression of damage.

Personally, I liked them both equally.

The sad thing is that, due to budgets, we're only watching about 10% of space for meteors or asteroids or whatever.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Gloriano on January 26, 2004, 09:04:31 am
in both films has one proplem there is no way to stop Asteroid or Comet..and never will be in our life time
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Bobboau on January 26, 2004, 09:10:10 am
correction; there is no way to stop a huge asteroid in a small amount of time, if we knew about it two or three years ahead of time, I'm sure we could do something about it
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 26, 2004, 10:21:11 am
What the hell's happening to this board?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: mikhael on January 26, 2004, 11:59:57 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau

we would have no idea, simply becase we arn't looking for it


Actually, we do watch. There are several organizations dedicated to searching the sky for and tracking of celestial objects. I'll have to hit the web to find the names. I know there's at least two based in North America.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: ZylonBane on January 26, 2004, 12:17:52 pm
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
it's not like Armageddon but it's still very good
I think you meant to say, "It's not like Armageddon THEREFORE it's very good".

Armageddon is one of those g#d@mn "science fiction" movies for people who can't even figure out how to program their VCR. Much like Independence Day and Starship Troopers.

I have no problem with mindless sci-fi romps ("Men in Black", "Aliens", etc). But if you're going to do one, don't even try to pretend that you're doing legitimate science fiction. It's utterly pointless, and only serves to piss off the audience members with half a brain.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: diamondgeezer on January 26, 2004, 12:20:32 pm
:wtf: You're gonna compare possibly the greatest sci-fi action film of all time to... Men in Black?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: aldo_14 on January 26, 2004, 12:21:33 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael


Actually, we do watch. There are several organizations dedicated to searching the sky for and tracking of celestial objects. I'll have to hit the web to find the names. I know there's at least two based in North America.


Low budget, though - I think the 10% figure given is about right.  I remember an interesting programme on the ways to destroy asteroids a while back... IIRc, a nuclear weapon capable of destroying a 'planetkiller' one would have to be phenomenally large - and as dangerous to the earth as the asteroid itself.  And even then it would depend on the asteroid composition.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: ZylonBane on January 26, 2004, 12:35:38 pm
That's why, realistically, the only option would be to merely deflect a threatening asteroid past Earth. Which of course relies on spotting it significantly ahead of impact time.

Let's just hope we manage to dodge asteroids until we can develop and deploy a network of Sooper Dooper Space Cannons.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: vyper on January 26, 2004, 12:52:37 pm
[q]You're gonna compare possibly the greatest sci-fi action film of all time to... Men in Black?[/q]

He's done it. Kill him. Now.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: FreeTerran on January 26, 2004, 12:57:27 pm
isn't this awesome :shaking:
(http://images.joblo.com/deepimpact.jpg)
(http://www.kinoweb.de/film98/DeepImpact/pix/di12.jpg)
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: ZylonBane on January 26, 2004, 12:58:26 pm
First image link is broken.
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Post by: FreeTerran on January 26, 2004, 01:01:20 pm
hmm works for me
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Post by: jdjtcagle on January 26, 2004, 05:19:50 pm
People needed to get more scared in that movie (wasn't very convincing), but otherwise good:)
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Post by: Unknown Target on January 26, 2004, 05:22:45 pm
Bleh, thought it was crap. Typical forced sappy Speilberg. Armaggeddon blew it away (even the whole "miners in space" thing seemed kinda funny).

Simply put:

Deep Impact: Bland characters, typical love affair, bla bla bla.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Knight Templar on January 26, 2004, 05:39:01 pm
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
:wtf: You're gonna compare possibly the greatest sci-fi action film of all time to... Men in Black?


Dude, MIB is teh w0rd. :p

MIBII on the other hand..
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: comic on January 26, 2004, 06:00:40 pm
Sorry to add to the gloom but asteroid impacts are not the only thing that could wipe out  agood chunk of the popultion.

Super volcanos (calderas)-don't call me on the spelling, could be just if not more devistating and we know less about these than asteroid impacts by about a factor of 1000.

Super volcano ( area of presuriesed magma below the surface that builds up until it errupts and are on the scale of the yellowstone national park or bigger)

And asteroids are relitevly well observed. i.e any big enough to have global species thretening results are quite well monitored

in the big picture one city or even country does not count for that much species wize.

Sorry to be so cheerful!
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Thorn on January 26, 2004, 06:04:35 pm
Lets not forget the vast armada of alien warships on its way to destroy us after they picked up Friends re-runs...
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: karajorma on January 26, 2004, 06:23:20 pm
I'm seriously tempted to stop watching horizon. Every series they have a new way that nature can kill you (half of which I'd never heard of before).

1) Large almost undeflectable asteroids.
2) Smaller metors like the ones that caused Tunguska and Wabae which are deflectable but number in the thousends.
3) Super volcanos
4) Mega tsunami (Like the La Palma one which is predicted to wipe out the entire Eastern seaboard.
5) Global warming cauing the release of methane hydrate and resulting in an 8-10 degree rise in global temperature.
6) Lake overturn (okay it only affects a few places in Africa but it's pretty damn scary)
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: comic on January 26, 2004, 06:26:46 pm
can't agree more horizon is the most pesemistic prog on tv....

they just shuldn't tell us Joe public, our lives would be much happier and less frought with highly unlightly worries!
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: karajorma on January 26, 2004, 07:03:54 pm
It may be useful one day though. I visit Eastern America about once a year. It's useful to know that I should driving inland if I hear about a big volcanic eruption in La Palma. :D
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Killfrenzy on January 26, 2004, 07:30:46 pm
I've got Deep Impact on vid somewhere (recorded off TV aaaages ago) but I do think that Armageddon blows it apart. :)

I don't give a damn about whether or not it's 'good science,' as I do enjoy a good movie. Armageddon for one thing had characters I actually wanted to pay attention to, and didn't focus stupidly heavily on the Ben/Liv romance. I loved the 'side story' about Chick's ex-wife and his estranged son. It was very nicely done.

But of course, Armageddon's greatest weapon against most similar 'summer blockbuster' movies is the score. NOT Aerosmith, I mean the proper orchestral score which took me five seconds to fall in love with. That opening flute solo is beautiful!
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Bobboau on January 26, 2004, 09:46:58 pm
we arn't looking hard enough, remember that big rock a few years back that was suposed to come between the earth and the moon (didn't way off) it was huge and we only had a few days warning
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: adwight on January 26, 2004, 11:02:59 pm
Well Armageddon was just on TV, the abc monday night movie.  Are all of these space movies linked with the anniversary (i think) of the Columbia Shuttle Disaster?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Knight Templar on January 26, 2004, 11:04:48 pm
Showing them on tv wise? Probably.