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Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Omniscaper on January 31, 2004, 04:33:37 am
Model/Textures - Rick Knox

(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/WIPS/sr01.jpg)


(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/WIPS/sr02.jpg)
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: TheCelestialOne on January 31, 2004, 04:34:08 am
Holy crap! You did one of my fav ships too! WEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Setekh on January 31, 2004, 04:36:09 am
Hot damn... glow mapped and everything, those textures look beautifully crisp too. You are a master, sir. :)
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Singh on January 31, 2004, 04:36:20 am
*bows down and worships Omniscaper*
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Omniscaper on January 31, 2004, 04:41:34 am
I'm in the process of getting Rick Knox's blessing to continue this conversion and eventual release. For now just pictures of his converted ship.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: c914 on January 31, 2004, 04:41:37 am
FINLYYYYY
my favorite ship in Startrek now is in FS:D :D
WEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just can't wait to fly him:D :D :D
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Knight Templar on January 31, 2004, 11:41:54 am
Are those Tri-Cobalt torps in the second pic? ;7
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Baron MacDoblin on January 31, 2004, 11:54:34 am
Yay, that's my favorite ST ship ever.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Alan Bolte on January 31, 2004, 01:38:00 pm
Very cool. Hey, check this out for anti-fighter phaser examples:
Zap (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TNG/episode/68534.html)
Take a look at the preview video.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: redsniper on January 31, 2004, 05:15:49 pm
why does everyone like this ship so much? I mean it looks very nice and all, but what did it do in ST to make it so popular? So far, the Enterprise-E is my favorite ship :blah:
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Bobboau on January 31, 2004, 07:31:10 pm
yeah, were did this come from, I don't remember it
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: kv1at3485 on January 31, 2004, 07:36:26 pm
There are faces in the Bussard ramscoops! lol
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 31, 2004, 07:55:25 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
yeah, were did this come from, I don't remember it
IIRC, a single scene from the beginning of First Contact.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Bobboau on January 31, 2004, 08:12:13 pm
that's it...
this is ST's Boba Fett isn't it
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: vyper on January 31, 2004, 08:51:44 pm
very nice *gets nostalgic for Armada days with fleets of Steamrunners as artillery ;)
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 31, 2004, 09:03:45 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
that's it...
this is ST's Boba Fett isn't it
Yeah, that would basically describe it. The initial specifications were made up by fans or an "expert", then it made it into a few games.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: redsniper on January 31, 2004, 10:23:02 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
IIRC, a single scene from the beginning of First Contact.

... I like First Contact :blah:...
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Bobboau on January 31, 2004, 10:30:40 pm
yes, we all do, the point is it was just made as cannon fodder for the borg and has become a favorite of many trek folk
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 31, 2004, 10:59:29 pm
I remember hearing once that a good deal of the ships that they smashed up at the beginning of First Contact were old rejected designs from TNG and TOS.....
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Bobboau on January 31, 2004, 11:44:34 pm
:lol:
/*wishes he had FC available to him right now*/
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Knight Templar on February 01, 2004, 12:00:51 am
Steamrunner was originally in FC, then in Armada, then in Armada II, and then Dominion Wars, and probably in BC.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: StratComm on February 01, 2004, 12:46:22 am
It actually didn't make it into Bridge Commander retail, though I don't know why.  There were a lot of complaints about it being missing though.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Omniscaper on February 01, 2004, 02:14:07 am
It was made by their modding community, if you have BC, go get it
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Omniscaper on February 05, 2004, 10:55:42 am
Its ready for battle.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,19747.msg405979.html#msg405979
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Ashrak on February 05, 2004, 12:55:07 pm
my fav ships are Dauntless and Prometheus :)
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Grey Wolf on February 05, 2004, 07:42:53 pm
I still like the Sovereign (especially the Nemesis variant), the Galaxy, and the Soyuz, myself.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Drew on February 05, 2004, 07:49:15 pm
nahh.... milennium falcon alll deh way


:nervous:
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: redsniper on February 05, 2004, 07:51:46 pm
:D now we're talkin'
Title: sorry
Post by: Star Dragon on February 05, 2004, 09:53:35 pm
The MF is just a glorified Cargo Ship, if we are talking SW, you HAVE to go SSD all the way! ;)

   As for the Steam Runner class, they are best used only against fixed targets as LONG DISTANCE ARTILLERY... Whenever I played Armada II you had to have a FLEET of them when you were ready to storm the enemy sectors. you had two fleets actually.  the first teh steam runners would creep throughthe map and manuallymake them STOP as a target gets in extreame range.  Teh main fleet of attack ships were ordered to protect the SR's while they elimenated the targets. Eventually you reach the main enemy base and send in the attack fleet while letting the SR's hangback and engage targets of opportunity with those cool tri-colbolts...

  Unfortunately it will be hard to make somethinglike this happen onthe fly in a FS2 mission without extensive fredding... The Steam Runner is NOT a front line type ship, it is best used as a Support Ship.

  Plus the design is not half bad, but Soulwolf (Ent-F) is my all time Fav.. At least until they get an official/unofficial Ent-G chosen and it looks decent. The mainthing about Soulwolf is it make it look like a predator. Something the Federation NEEDS to project finally.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Turnsky on February 05, 2004, 11:21:39 pm
Nova Class!.. it's like a mini Sovereign..

there was no 'nemesis variant' of the Sovereign, that was the enterprise E.. other than crew, etc.. it's prolly no different than other sovereigns
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 06, 2004, 02:43:08 am
Actually there were supposidely some slight variants between the Sovereign from ST:FC & Insurrection, and the design seen in ST:Nemesis.  It's been a while since I've seen the later, but I remember seeing an interview with the designer from Nemesis and he confirmed that changes had taken place.

Later!
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Turnsky on February 06, 2004, 02:43:51 am
okay... give us a photo then..
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: TrashMan on February 06, 2004, 05:50:13 am
I did a Galaxy-X for Armada 2 (and the Romulan Nierrh).... kicked the Borgs ass with it..
It's still available for download at www.armadafleetcommad.com

Here's the direct link for those who want it:
GALAXY-X:
http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/afc/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=104&min=10&orderby=dateD&show=10#cat

NIERRH:
http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/afc/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=110#cat
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Flipside on February 06, 2004, 11:56:14 am
If I recall, the SteamRunner was great in Armada for hiding on the other side of Nebula clouds and throwing Tri-Cobalt torpedos into bases and mining stations etc, they were absolutely awesome for long range work, I used to use Sovereigns or Galaxies simply as escorts for the Steamrunners :)
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Omniscaper on February 06, 2004, 12:35:22 pm
This one is not loaded with THAT mant tricobalts like Armada had it. It does have 4 Tricobalts each carring  TBL entries of:

$Damage: 20000         
$Blast Force: 6000.0
$Inner Radius: 600.0         
$Outer Radius: 600.0   

Dunno if thats over doing it, but it make up for it's low compliment.
Title: HEy Onmi...
Post by: Star Dragon on February 06, 2004, 01:14:03 pm
Remeber the Caretaker's huge space station? IF I remember correctly Voyager had only 4 Tri-Colbolts asssigned to it and they used 2 or 3 of them to blow the station so the Kazon wouldn't claim it.  remember teh sheer size of it?  I think a Tri-colbolt will blow way any normal sized starship, shields or no... Make teh damage 30,000 or even 50,000...

   Cool idea for a screenshot, have voyager blow away the Arcadia station with a few Tri-C's  :drevil:

  "Unless they give me One MILLION bars of gold pressed LATINUM!" , "What?"

  "Fine, make it One Hundred Billion bars then smart asses."
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Omniscaper on February 06, 2004, 04:08:31 pm
I included a mission with the Steamrunner model which has it battling a single Sovereign. During all my tests ,It was able to fire only one Tricobalt before they played chase the tail AI maneuvers, and that torpedo took out its front shield entirely along with half of its hull strength. I think thats conservative enough to make it work. I'm pretty sure one more torpedo would have taken it out, which seems feasable considering the Sovereign's uberness. Most of my tests involved me getting killed due to detonation proximity with that friendly torpedo. I'd say those torpedoes made it an even fight.

In regards to the Caretaker array, remember that it did sustain a colliding  Kazon warship. Dispite it's size, its doubtfull that the tricobalts did it all.
Title: SteamRunner WIP
Post by: Singh on February 06, 2004, 10:19:46 pm
Omniscaper: Try AI Stand still.......i tried it a while back on a group of fenrises on a speeding Orion...surprisingly, they chased it a bit...'smartly' I should say.

Try keeping one on normal, and the other on standstill...maybe that will work......