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Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: Star Dragon on February 06, 2004, 01:18:53 pm
Go HERE! http://www.starshiptroopers2.net/ie/bindex1.html

   They need to work on the website a little but hey they got some good preview info..

   OMG! Jim Ellison (The Sentinel) is the new hero!
   
   "Hey Jim, how many bugs around the corner?"
    (Jim uses his Sentinel hearing)
   "5, four are shredding a body and one is playing with a pulse rifle"
   
:lol:
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2004, 01:23:30 pm
Straight to video.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: Flipside on February 06, 2004, 01:33:05 pm
That never bodes well :(
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2004, 01:36:08 pm
I have to be honest and say it looks utterly awful...a cast of cheap-TV only actors, set in a planet of duststroms and darkness to reduce the effects budget and remove location costs (no view distance), plastic looking sets & props......IIRc it's being made by the SFX company repsonsiblew for the original, which doesn't exactly bode well when it comes to storyline, acting, production or anything beyond, well, sfx.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: J3Vr6 on February 06, 2004, 01:39:00 pm
the first one sucked.  That was one movie I wanted to see and they pooped out a turd.  I don't even think I finished watching it.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: an0n on February 06, 2004, 01:42:45 pm
I liked the first one.

Though the Roughneck Chronicles were better.

Shame they iced them to make way for crap like Max Steel.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2004, 01:45:50 pm
The first hour or so of the movie was ****, though - we almost walked out the cinema.  Latter half, when stuff started being killed, was much better.

I think i saw the Roughneck chronicles a few times on sky.... they seemed to be crippled by the fact it was a kids show, so you can't show blood and guts.... which kind of ruins the whole point of having big stabby bugs.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: an0n on February 06, 2004, 02:00:19 pm
Yeah, that was a little sucky, but it followed the original Starship Troopers tale far more faithfully than the movie.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: diamondgeezer on February 06, 2004, 02:03:35 pm
A sci-fi movie with Jennifer Ellison in it? My God... this will quite possibly be the greatest moving picture of all time

*is deeply in love with Jennifer Ellison*

EDIT: Who whoa whoa. I see no Jennifer in the cast list. You best not be pulling my plonker Star Dragon
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2004, 02:08:55 pm
Jim Ellison
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: diamondgeezer on February 06, 2004, 02:18:45 pm
God dammit on a pogo stick with dancing elephants in pink tutus
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: J3Vr6 on February 06, 2004, 02:38:56 pm
I think I stopped watching it when they were still training (when someone get's blown up with a grenade or something?)
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2004, 03:21:40 pm
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
I think I stopped watching it when they were still training (when someone get's blown up with a grenade or something?)


It gets much better after the training bit.... not classic, granted, but pretty entertaining.  

Everything before that, though, is utter pish.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: an0n on February 06, 2004, 03:28:26 pm
I'll remind you of the shower-scene.

*hands aldo a gun*

Now, go punish yourself for forgetting about it.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2004, 03:39:49 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
I'll remind you of the shower-scene.

*hands aldo a gun*

Now, go punish yourself for forgetting about it.


Oh, come on.  We have the internet nowadays for that sort of thing, so it's no longer that important in judging flims.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: diamondgeezer on February 06, 2004, 03:50:20 pm
Dude, boobies are important. It doesn't get much more important.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: J3Vr6 on February 06, 2004, 04:03:23 pm
Too bad it's not worth renting and I doubt I'd see it on cable.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: adwight on February 06, 2004, 05:22:16 pm
I'm gonna see it, am I one of the only ones that liked the first one?
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: diamondgeezer on February 06, 2004, 06:24:22 pm
ST ruled. It had space ships, giant bugs, hi-tech soldiers, orbital drops, massive explosions and boobies. There is nothing else I could want in a movie with the possible exeception of Terminators. Not to mention the fact that the effects remain utterly fantastic (they owned on the big screen)
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on February 06, 2004, 07:15:06 pm
for some reason, SST was much better as a Duke Nuke 3D modification :doubt:
http://ca.geocities.com/dukesunrise2002/html/files.html
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 06, 2004, 07:21:06 pm
There was a Serious Sam mod, but I don't know what happened to it - shame, cos that would have been the best game to do it in.
Title: IF you remember
Post by: Star Dragon on February 06, 2004, 11:16:39 pm
Microprose made a SSt game but it was sorta limited. Some developer IS making a new SSt game however, don't know when it will come out but sometime after the second movie is released.

   For all you old guys like me, remember the TRS-80 COLOR computer (around 1982-86), I had KLENDATHU cartridge. Thats right I had my 8 bit pixelated guy with a flame thrower runing around the screen as 2 colors of bugs flew past me. Green and RED (queens). you got points for avoided them while toasting them to death... God it was so primitive (like atari 2600)... I cringe to think that sort of thing actually captured my intersest.  :nervous:

   But I am much better now HONEST! I never play anything below 16 bit graphics anymore!!!
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on February 07, 2004, 12:11:09 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
There was a Serious Sam mod, but I don't know what happened to it - shame, cos that would have been the best game to do it in.


well the duke3d one was fun cause it gave me really cool new mapping abilities that I liked and I knew Build.exe in and out(execpt for making sliding "Star Trek" doors :rolleyes: )
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 07, 2004, 08:17:30 am
Quite a few (mostly incomplete) mods as it turns out.... Half Life, Q2, Q3, Serious Sam and Op:Flashpoint  s'interesting.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: 01010 on February 07, 2004, 08:27:24 am
I think it would have been interesting to see what the film would have been like had it stuck to the book rather than rewriting it almost entirely, not to say I didn't enjoy the film, it was ****ing great when there was action, but I'm not entirely sure why they even bothered trying to tack a story in there.

With some selective editing you could cut half hour out of that film easily and it'd still rock.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 07, 2004, 08:47:41 am
I've not read it, but wasn't the book somewhat Nazi-istic in tone?  Which the movie kind of satirized....
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Post by: an0n on February 07, 2004, 08:59:34 am
The entire book was one big political advert for......err.....Socialism, was it?

Remember in the movie when they're in the class? Remember hearing Razak saying "...discuss the fall of Democracy..."? Then there's all the stuff about "I need to be a Citizen to go into government / have a baby".

And 'sticking to the book' would've meant going from the initial encounters to the invasion of Earth and required about 20 hours of film.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: 01010 on February 07, 2004, 09:05:31 am
Basically the way the system works in the book is that only people who serve time in the military are eligible to vote, I don't care about the politics though, some of the ideas for the tech I really like.

The powersuits should have made it into the film though, that would've been awesome.

I didn't want them to stick to the book, to be honest, it's like the Running man book and film, two completely seperate entities (though the running man book is way better than the film)
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: Turnsky on February 07, 2004, 09:08:58 am
:blah:
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 07, 2004, 09:19:21 am
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Originally posted by 01010
(though the running man book is way better than the film)


Yep.  Especially the ending.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: Nico on February 07, 2004, 09:46:30 am
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Originally posted by adwight
I'm gonna see it, am I one of the only ones that liked the first one?


No, I loved it. Thread too long, not gonna read it all.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: kasperl on February 07, 2004, 11:34:13 am
who wrote the book exactly? and if i do buy it, does fragmenting reading matter a lot in this case?
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 07, 2004, 12:44:02 pm
Robert Heinlein IIRC.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0785787283/qid=1076179290/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_11_1/026-8388374-2668461
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: an0n on February 07, 2004, 12:45:26 pm
Uh.....no.

I had a Starship Troopers board-game from like the 70's or some ****. It was one big ground-battle against the Bugs.
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: aldo_14 on February 07, 2004, 12:51:52 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
Uh.....no.

I had a Starship Troopers board-game from like the 70's or some ****. It was one big ground-battle against the Bugs.


Yeah...I checked amazon for a bit to be sure (or not, as it may be).  Turns out i must be thinking of something else........
Title: Return of the bugs!
Post by: Nico on February 07, 2004, 02:24:05 pm
Hop, I've read the whole thread, and

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Originally posted by 01010
The powersuits should have made it into the film though, that would've been awesome.


There's variants of them in Roughnecks.

As for the movie, nobody noticed it's a TV show?
From the website:
"I'm proud to announce that  Starship Troopers 2 will premiere on the Action channel (the part of STARZ! Super Pack), 10PM April 24th. It will also play Wednesday 28th, at 10 PM. "
then:
"Once again we -- as the first in the world -- have the pleasure of bringing you the hottest news about Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation. It's official: The street date in the US for the ST2 DVD is June 8th, 2004. The movie has been Rated R by the MPAA."

So obviously, it doesn't have the cash Verhoeven had.
I'll watch it, definitively.