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Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 08, 2004, 03:37:04 pm
Trying to get into the "high poly groove" here with the SCP stuff, and finally had time to model, and here's the result:

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Destroyer01.jpg)
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Destroyer02.jpg)

Started out as a cruiser, and needs more detail on the engine pods, the underside, and the back of the ship. I'm trying to actually make interesting detail, rather than just random extrusions.

So. Give me greeble ideas!
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: karajorma on February 08, 2004, 03:45:54 pm
It's my Charon (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/TMA-Images/Charon-Front.jpg)  class with side pods! :D


I guess therefore since I like my own ship I have to like this one too :)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Raven2001 on February 08, 2004, 04:01:34 pm
It has future IMHO :)

How many polys???
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: TrashMan on February 08, 2004, 05:07:28 pm
:yes:
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 08, 2004, 05:34:10 pm
Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
It's my Charon (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/TMA-Images/Charon-Front.jpg)  class with side pods! :D


I guess therefore since I like my own ship I have to like this one too :)


GAHHH! I'm forever cursed to make ships that look a lot like someone elses!

Raven: about 1100 polys :D
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Flipside on February 08, 2004, 05:43:28 pm
And I'm forever cursed to make ships that are named the same as someone elses :( LOL
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Bobboau on February 08, 2004, 05:48:32 pm
not bad,  add more detail to the front and the side pods
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: karajorma on February 08, 2004, 05:56:39 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Anaz
GAHHH! I'm forever cursed to make ships that look a lot like someone elses!


Well considering that mine was in parts a shameless rip off of the Tiger's Claw from Wing Commander I wouldn't feel too bad :)

Great. 5000 posts!
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 08, 2004, 06:17:01 pm
I've never even seen the Tiger's Claw...never played WC
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: karajorma on February 08, 2004, 06:37:04 pm
Wasn't saying you have :) Most ships are influnced by something else so unless you make a completely alien-looking ship it's going to look a bit like something else :D
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Goober5000 on February 08, 2004, 06:44:59 pm
It also looks kinda like the Sith interceptor from Phantom Menace. :)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Beowulf on February 08, 2004, 06:52:34 pm
Looking good! (more polys on the 'pods please! ;)) :yes:
Title: cool
Post by: Star Dragon on February 08, 2004, 09:32:10 pm
I really like the main hull, just needs turrets.

  As for the sides, I don't like the shape, are they simply side engines or armor? How about making them a little thinner and more form fitting length wise? I don't know what I mean lol but for some reason it's just not working for me right now.. ;)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Knight Templar on February 09, 2004, 01:44:51 am
You need to do something with those fugly engines. :p
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Su-tehp on February 09, 2004, 01:19:45 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
You need to do something with those fugly engines. :p


Agreed. The mod still has potential, though. :)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Raven2001 on February 09, 2004, 02:54:39 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Anaz


GAHHH! I'm forever cursed to make ships that look a lot like someone elses!

Raven: about 1100 polys :D


Just 1100?? I could swear it looked like more to me

Nicely done
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Havock on February 10, 2004, 07:54:03 am
i think it would be more fitting as a corvette like the moloch.

not that strong, but a fast way to get some fighter cover somewhere.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: KARMA on February 10, 2004, 08:11:54 am
I'd try some blobby engines
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Janos on February 10, 2004, 10:15:26 am
I'd make the nose larger and bulkier and make it a corvette or a frigate.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 10, 2004, 06:17:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Janos
I'd make the nose larger and bulkier and make it a corvette or a frigate.


think I should cut down on the length a bit too?


Raven: that's because I've been naughty and have quite a few >4 point poygons. :D


And Blobby Engines? Got a pic that I can look at that portrays blobby engines?

And cutting it down to corvette status would probably be good.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: karajorma on February 11, 2004, 03:45:45 am
Quote
Originally posted by Anaz
Raven: that's because I've been naughty and have quite a few >4 point poygons. :D


Way I understand it the more >4 point polys the better with HT&L. Means reduced load times. :)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: KARMA on February 11, 2004, 04:48:05 am
Quote
Originally posted by Anaz



And Blobby Engines? Got a pic that I can look at that portrays blobby engines?


not reall (I'm lazy), btw I was thinking at something anime-style, a blobby superstructure with a mech undestructure.
Something vaguely like the engines of the pods in SW ep1 or, more closely, the engines of the Nadesico (if you know what I'm talking about).
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Janos on February 11, 2004, 05:26:56 am
Quote
Originally posted by Anaz

think I should cut down on the length a bit too?


Not necessarily. It's quite futuristic-looking (in FS terms), and long, slim hull works well in that kind of ships.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Havock on February 11, 2004, 12:01:53 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Anaz


think I should cut down on the length a bit too?


Raven: that's because I've been naughty and have quite a few >4 point poygons. :D


And Blobby Engines? Got a pic that I can look at that portrays blobby engines?

And cutting it down to corvette status would probably be good.


corvette or frigate, about 1200 meters long, armour is not extremely tough, can dish out quite some damage but it's biggest advantage is that it is mu;tipurpose, it can survive fights wih a lot of things, it's fast and it carries fighters.

that's my interpretation of it.

it looks cool.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Baron MacDoblin on February 11, 2004, 12:37:22 pm
Very, VERY nice.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: SadisticSid on February 12, 2004, 06:39:56 pm
Will look great once you do something with those awfully bland side pods. :)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 20, 2004, 08:28:56 pm
and a great big *bump* in the night...

Tell me, do you like the new direction with the side pods? Also, what's it look like *now*.

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Corv01.jpg)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Corv02.jpg)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Corv03.jpg)

(*awaits calls of "PHALIC" due to round side pods*)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Knight Templar on February 20, 2004, 08:38:57 pm
........ wheels?
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Goober5000 on February 20, 2004, 08:48:18 pm
Keen gear, it's a drag racer!
Title: great
Post by: Star Dragon on February 20, 2004, 10:00:45 pm
Now it looks like it was built by Gnomes. Gnomish enginerring tries to incorporate huge wheels that are inhabited by giant space hamsters. These hampsters turn the wheels thus providing electrical power to the engines. Though the creatures themselves have a speed limit of 30ms, most of the time the only drawback to this design is the amount of space availabel to store the hampster's food supply. A standard Gnomish sidewheeler can operate for 3-4 months before needing to secure more provisions to power the drive system.  (yes this is from spelljammer D&D) :lol:

  Please change those side things!
Title: Re: great
Post by: Anaz on February 20, 2004, 10:57:14 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Star Dragon
Now it looks like it was built by Gnomes. Gnomish enginerring tries to incorporate huge wheels that are inhabited by giant space hamsters. These hampsters turn the wheels thus providing electrical power to the engines. Though the creatures themselves have a speed limit of 30ms, most of the time the only drawback to this design is the amount of space availabel to store the hampster's food supply. A standard Gnomish sidewheeler can operate for 3-4 months before needing to secure more provisions to power the drive system.  (yes this is from spelljammer D&D) :lol:

  Please change those side things!


I'm open to suggestions.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Knight Templar on February 20, 2004, 11:19:07 pm
Anything but wheels? :p
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: StratComm on February 21, 2004, 01:38:43 am
I'd suggest you evaluate what purpose those side pods serve and model them appropriately.  If they serve no purpose, and you can't get rid of them, make them as thin as possible and call them fins.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: c914 on February 21, 2004, 04:09:58 am
those wheels are ugly:ick: :ick:
now ship looks like rattle for beby;) ;)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Setekh on February 21, 2004, 05:14:18 am
I like the direction the fuselage is taking. :)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Havock on February 21, 2004, 07:56:47 am
the sidepods on the first pics where better, this just doesn't fit.

but perhaps alter those on the first so that they look sleeker, this ship you are making shows nothing of raw power, it screams out finesse though, shape it like that.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 23, 2004, 07:02:27 pm
Alright...lets give this another go. New sidepods are slimmer & shorter, they're also more "in" on top + bottom, and asymetrical on the y-axis:

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Corv04.jpg)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Corv05.jpg)

(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Workshops/Anaz/Corv06.jpg)

Better?
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Knight Templar on February 23, 2004, 07:03:41 pm
Very much so. :yes:

Did you do any work on the main body since the last time?
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 23, 2004, 07:04:53 pm
No, I didn't. Trying to get the sidepods worked out before going back to the main body
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Knight Templar on February 23, 2004, 07:06:04 pm
I guess it's the angles.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 25, 2004, 09:36:31 pm
uh...bump?

anyone out there? or too busy looking at Trashman's latest brick?
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: phreak on February 25, 2004, 09:43:23 pm
i guess those engine pods need a little more detail, i don't know exactly what they need im not an artist
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Taristin on February 25, 2004, 10:02:53 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Anaz
uh...bump?

anyone out there? or too busy looking at Trashman's latest brick?


:lol:

Too busy making my own bricks, but that's besides the point. ;)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 25, 2004, 10:15:50 pm
I like it. I think i personally preferred the round pods, though. They were more, um, distinctive. Just needed better detailing or something.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Bobboau on February 25, 2004, 10:25:24 pm
the round ones looked too stuck on, these new ones are better, but they need more detail, cut some holes in them, and make recesed intakes, and round exaust ports (ect)
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Unknown Target on February 26, 2004, 05:48:06 am
I like the last one.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Turnsky on February 26, 2004, 05:52:09 am
Technicaly, the pods would be called "Nacelles" (look at the Von Braun from System shock 2 to see what i mean)

but that's just me.. Looking good thus far :yes:
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 26, 2004, 07:14:59 pm
ah, good, so I'll detail it up, and hopefully have some more pics by this weekend.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Knight Templar on February 26, 2004, 08:23:57 pm
Excellence. :yes:
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Havock on February 27, 2004, 02:25:43 pm
ok, so, what's the ship gonna be?

a destroyer or the corvette-with-fighterbay-thingy?
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Anaz on February 27, 2004, 05:42:23 pm
Right now I'm leaning towards the 'vette with fighter bay idea.
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Odyssey on February 27, 2004, 05:48:56 pm
[color=cc9900]In all seriousness, I preferred it with the round nacelles. As already stated, it made it look different. It gave it a little character.

If it were me, I'd work on blending the main body into the round nacelles, rather then getting rid of them altogether. It doesn't really look right with either, at the moment.

Something might also need to be done with the front. I'm not sure a wedge is the most suitable design for a small ship.

Other than that, great :)[/color]
Title: Destroyer-type-thing
Post by: Knight Templar on February 28, 2004, 03:36:16 pm
Yeah, it gave it the character of a drag racer. :p