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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on February 08, 2004, 05:04:21 pm
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Just a thought.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2459071493&category=9883
Would be handy for carrying the shopping........
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Tracked APC Carries a crew of 2 plus 10 fully equipped soldiers. Fitted with external vision and NBC protection. Diesel version Rolls K60 Mk4 240 bhp Speed 52 km/h
No way that thing only has 240 horsepower. Or am I reading that wrong?
On a side note, it's always nice to be protected from NBC and the bunch. Does it work for F.O.X. too?
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Well depends on the country I guess. No tracked vehicles on Fed or state roads in the US.
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AFAIK, Tracked Vehicles are legal on US highways, they just have to be under the weight limit for the size. I saw a kit a few years ago that would allow a refit of tracks onto any existing 4wd vehicle. Just can't find a link right now.
It looked something like this (http://www.atvillustrated.com/product_reviews/litefoot/track_kit.html) however.
Now we're talkin! (http://www.mattracks.com/)
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Originally posted by Liberator
Now we're talkin! (http://www.mattracks.com/)
Could you imagine that on a Honda Integra? :drevil:
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:drevil:
My friend wanted to get one of those a year or two ago. And I believe that they are street legal. Freakin' cool...;7
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Deeper research reveals a max speed of 40 mph. :sigh:
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Who cares? You can only do 40, but you can do 40 on top of other peoples' cars.
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AFAIK tanks are perfectly road legal, they drive them on the roads around Bournemouth a lot, I don't see why an APC wouldn't be.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Who cares? You can only do 40, but you can do 40 on top of other peoples' cars.
LOL! Too true. Oh wouldn't I love to just plow through highways and intersections in one of those.
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Sorry to burst your bubbles, guys, but if you're talkng about the M113 APC, there ain't no way it can climb over any car more massive than a F1 racer. It simply doesn't have the vertical clearance.
But back to the APC-on-road scenario, I have a video I simply must post for you all when I get back Wednesday. :D
As a matter of legality, here in Israel at least M113 APCs are allowed to drive on roads because of the rubber pads each section of tread has, which prevents the metal from coming into contact with, and subsequently ripping up, the asphalt. Most tanks do not have such rubber pads, and thus aren't allowed on roads.
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It's whatever a Fv 432 is. Got a fair amount of clearance, a good deal more than the average car does. If not quite enough to climb on top of an SUV or whatever. Can still go through the sucker, at any rate.
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Get yerself a Scorpion. Tracked, fast, and with a 3 inch gun for despatching small game.
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On closer inspection, that APC comes with road wheels. So the road legality of it is not a question. However, I do believe driving a tracked vehicles on US roads will land you in a lot of trouble unless you are using rubber treads or have a legitimate use for such a vehicle on the streets. I can't think of any reason you'd need to take a bulldozer on a road, but there may exist some farm equipment that makes use of them, and most farmers don't have equipment trailers for all of their machinary.
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I really enjoyes reading this...
This Vehicle has the following Features:
Tool pack
Lights all round
Opperators manual
Will opperate on any terrain
Extremely awesome vehicle
Nice way to put it. But seeing as he has no manufacture date listed it could have been made close to 1971 or theabouts, according to the info I found.
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The FV432 series of full-tracked APCs was developed for the British Army by the now GKN Defence. Over 3000 vehicles were built between 1963 and 1971. In the basic APC it has now been replaced by the Warrior MCV, but it is still used in support roles in alomst every arm of the British Army.
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Strange how dealers advertise diesel engines in bhp when their strong point is torque.
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Well, that's the way with all cars. Horsepower is a moot point. But companies realize average people don't know how to read a torque band and thus can't rate a powerful engine. :doubt:
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and don't get me started on bloody "PS" neither....
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Could you imagine that on a Honda Integra? :drevil:
since Honda doesn't manufacture Integras, no... i can't
For the record, Acura makes Integras ;) :p :cool:
And whoever said "it's only got 240 HP?" : it's all about the torque, not necessarily just HP
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Bah, Honda, Accura, it's all the same :rolleyes:
And for the record, no, I cannot. Those treads make the ATV look a bit like a mini Mammoth tank though.
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grrr. ebay always takes me too their home page whenever i enter something from their site into the address bar or click a link to it.
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Originally posted by Stealth
since Honda doesn't manufacture Integras, no... i can't
For the record, Acura makes Integras ;) :p :cool:
Wrong.
- Acura is owned by Honda. Or in essence, Honda's 'luxury' car line in America.
- In Japan, and most every other country besides America, where the Acura nameplate doesn't exist, it's called the Honda Integra.
- In Japan, the RSX is still called the Integra. They just seperate it by it's newer chassis code (DC5).
I own an Integra, and the gascap, motor, and just about every piece besides the nameplate and manual are marked 'Honda.'
Do a little research first. :rolleyes:
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This just in:
NOBODY CARES.
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Ummmm, yeah it's exactly how it goes. look at my quote again. I said that Honda doesn't make Integras; Acura does. Honda owns the name rights of Integra, and is the parent company of Acura, but Acura still produces the car, so therefore it's an Acura Integra, not a Honda Integra. The way you're thinking is you call the car by the top name holder of the car.
If that was the case, then it wouldn't be a Ferrari Enzo, it would be a Fiat Enzo. But have you ever heard anyone call it a Fiat Enzo? (Fiat owns Ferrari) Of course not, it's a Ferrari Enzo. Same goes with Lamborghini. Since Volkswagen owns Audi, which in turn owns Lamborghini, it's not a Volkswagen Gallardo, or even an Audi Gallardo: It's a Lamborghini Gallardo.
In the car industry, a car's classified under the name of the maker of the car, not the name holder.
so my quote was right: Honda doesn't make Integras; Acura does. Honda owns the rights to them, since it owns Acura, but Acura makes them.
You do some research first. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
This just in:
NOBODY CARES.
:yes:
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although since Honda does make straight Integras in Asia (as far as i know) your way of saying it could be right. i'm talking from the America stance here you know :-/
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
:yes:
Seconded
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Originally posted by Stealth
although since Honda does make straight Integras in Asia (as far as i know) your way of saying it could be right. i'm talking from the America stance here you know :-/
Integras weren't made in America, only in Japan. (95% in Japan, 5% from N. America) They were shipped.
And everyone else: If you don't care, stop reading. Noone's forcing it upon you and you're just spamming.
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But.. but.. it's what I do best! If you don't like my spamming, then don't read it. Otherwise.... :p
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Moot point. ******slaps KT*
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:thepimp:
*pimp slaps Snipes*
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you can't pimp slap someone unless you are a pimp Knight Templar. in your case, i'd suggest you stick with ***** slapping, because, well... yeah
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A query to the mother and you'll discover out how wrong you are. ;7
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Finally home!
(http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/4c/aa/c7_1.JPG)
Yep, that's an M113. :nod:
Originally posted by Sandwich
But back to the APC-on-road scenario, I have a video I simply must post for you all when I get back Wednesday. :D
I filmed this clip 2 years ago, along one of the main highways in Israel, running between Jerusalem and Tel-Aviv. Since it cuts across part of Judea and Samaria, there are "security measures" in place. We were one of those measures (although I must admit that riding on the highway like that in an M113 APC was a bit unusual at that time of day). :D
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/sandwich/apc_on_highway.avi
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Originally posted by Sandwich
(http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/4c/aa/c7_1.JPG)
Yep, that's an M113. :nod:
No...
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I'd like to mention something that may have already been said, but meh...
To use an APC/MBT on British roads, you have to:
1) Possess a full driver's license.
2) Put rubber bits between the track teeth so that they don't chew up the road.
That's all you need. There's a bloke in London who drives around on a bright-yellow Abbot SPG.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
No...
:wtf: Let me clarify something that doesn't really need to be clarified, but meh: The APC in the pic is, at its core, an M113. I see a few non-"standard" modifications from here, mainly the two boxes on top, but unless someone took the physical design of the M113 and made a "different" APC out of it, it's an M113. And even if someone did copy the M113, my statement still stands: that's a picture of an APC that, at its core, is an M113.
I have many, many long hours of experience inside and around M113s. What do you have to back up your statement? :)
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The fact that it's an Fv432, for one.
The M113 is a full foot taller.
Just because it looks a bit like an M113 doesn't mean it is one. There's a whole generation of APCs that look like that, simply because that was the style at the time. An armoured box designed to ferry troops about.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
The fact that it's an Fv432, for one.
The M113 is a full foot taller.
Just because it looks a bit like an M113 doesn't mean it is one. There's a whole generation of APCs that look like that, simply because that was the style at the time. An armoured box designed to ferry troops about.
Hmm. Seems the Fv43x line of vehicles are based off the M113 APC. So we're both right - it ain't an M113, but it is based off the M113. ;) My apologies. :)
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Accepted.
Where's your source that says it's based on the 113, btw?
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I'm a fan of the Warrior APC, incidentally
(http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/warrior5.jpg)
It has a chaingun. :)
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Where's your source that says it's based on the 113, btw?
3rd paragraph... sort of.
http://www.rememuseum.org.uk/vehicles/trrv/vehfv432.htm
FV430 paragraph.... again, sort of.
http://www.fv432.com/fv43xfamily.htm#fv432familytop
Both those indicate it was more of a direct rival to the M113. They took what wasn't broke, didn't fix it, and came up with the Fv43x series. :p
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The Swedes have an APC of a similar design, iirc. But rather than the pintle mounted MG that the 113 and FV432 have as standard issue, it has a turret with a 20mm cannon.
Go Sweden!
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By the way, for those of you who think that MODding is something done only to games and cars, APCs aren't exempt (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/M-113.html). :D
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The thing I like about M113s is they're not that much longer than your average car.
The times I've tried to talk my dad into buying a Vulcan...
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I have to get one of those things.
That, and when I can afford it, one of those nice uber-accurate Goalkeeper miniguns with the nearly fist-sized HE rounds, and I don't think I'll ever want for anything again.
Well, yeah, food and ****, I guess, but you know what I mean.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
The Swedes have an APC of a similar design, iirc. But rather than the pintle mounted MG that the 113 and FV432 have as standard issue, it has a turret with a 20mm cannon.
Go Sweden!
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/HVMS.html
Gotta love the sound of "Hyper-Velocity Guns", eh? :D
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"Unheard of amounts of armour"
I like that
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Does have a certain ring to it, doesn't it? :drevil:
[q]"The HVMS gun was a small 60mm gun that provided high velocity kinetic energy projectiles to penetrate unheard of amounts of armour at considerable ranges."[/q]
As opposed to "...at inconsiderable ranges."? :D
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I dunno. The turret's nice, but it just mars the look. You wanna tank, you get a tank.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
I dunno. The turret's nice, but it just mars the look. You wanna tank, you get a tank.
What, on the Warrior? Gotta love the functionality, though.
On an aside, I remember a story in the Iraq war, when the British army was attacking insurgents holed up in a building - they simply drove the Warrior straight through the walls and overwhelmed them :D
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Hey Sandwich that's a cool video... not every day you get to see the IDF cruisin along...
By the way, Sandwich, I heard you guys had a small earthquake today. Everyone okay?
APC... cool... I'd soooo like to drive that to school. Imagine the looks I'd get... ;7;)
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Originally posted by Corsair
I'd soooo like to drive that to school. Imagine the looks I'd get...
...as you are carried away by the authorities.
All the while real threats to society are slipping through their fingers. :p
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If it's okay for a kid to drive a Hummer to school then I think I'm entitled to drive an APC to school. After all, it's only military surplus.
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Originally posted by Corsair
By the way, Sandwich, I heard you guys had a small earthquake today. Everyone okay?
Heh, yeah... I was in the throes of running around like a headless chicken getting things ready to come home from reserves, so I didn't feel the thing. But others in my unit said they felt it - they thought something like: "D9? Nope, none of them around here. Tank? Nope, they aren't here either. Must be an earthquake!" :D