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Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: ryuune75 on February 10, 2004, 05:21:44 am: I think Homeworld (and its sequel) is one of the best game out there, in particular the HW2 ships are uber-cool looking.
For that reason I'm planning to make a HW2 --> FS2 conversion (there is already a FS2 --> HW2 conversion in progress); I already have the ships extracted from HW2, then it's a simple matter of converting them, so i can probably make the TC all by myself, but i'd like to know if someone is interested in helping me, especially in the fields of turretting and freddign, 2 things i'm not very good at.

What do you guys think?
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Deepblue on February 10, 2004, 01:13:53 pm: I believe its already been done...
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Unknown Target on February 10, 2004, 01:15:39 pm: No, he means to put Homeworld ships into Freespace 2 (I always got confused about the "to" bit). Anyway, it's not being done.
Good luck, altho you will have some probs, as I heard that HW2 uses more than one model for each ship model.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Fineus on February 10, 2004, 01:19:21 pm: I think it does, from certain angles the turrets can be seen to be separate from the ship.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: magatsu1 on February 10, 2004, 02:25:20 pm: I'm curious about conversion work. Are there proggys knockin' about that allow people to read and extract model/texture etc files ?
Or do you haved to write them youself ?
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: karajorma on February 10, 2004, 06:03:42 pm: I believe someone called Fabio has converted the entire fleet to Lightwave already. That would probably be an easier starting point.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: ryuune75 on February 11, 2004, 02:21:54 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
I believe someone called Fabio has converted the entire fleet to Lightwave already. That would probably be an easier starting point.

The tools to extract models and textures from HW2 were made long time ago, so many people have done that (i believe that Fabio was the first one to do that)

As i told i have already all the models i need to do a FS2 mod, i only need to convert them to pof, the only difficult thing will be making all the turrets to work for the capships

The models of HW, despite what most people say, are very low poly, and are generally made of one mesh (plus lods and goblins); of course mothership have a modular design for subsystem, but i can just glue them toghether, i don't see any problem in that.
Title: Not so low poly...
Post by: Star Dragon on February 13, 2004, 03:57:24 am: I Dl'ed the Fabio set and 90% of them need to be sub-objected (as a single mesh has well over 850 pollies per ship,some up to 3000). That's why I posted that single Hiigaran Intercepter conversion 3 months ago and quit. I can't break them down (also no tutorials) so I will be VERY interested in your final results (as I like about 10 or so ships in HW2).
Title: Re: Not so low poly...
Post by: ryuune75 on February 13, 2004, 06:22:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Star Dragon
I Dl'ed the Fabio set and 90% of them need to be sub-objected (as a single mesh has well over 850 pollies per ship,some up to 3000). That's why I posted that single Hiigaran Intercepter conversion 3 months ago and quit. I can't break them down (also no tutorials) so I will be VERY interested in your final results (as I like about 10 or so ships in HW2).

Well, of course most ships are over 850 polyes, and the Higaraan "Banana 2" is a wopping 10000 poly, but my plan is to make the mod for FSO, i really don't bother about vanilla FS2 anymore... but still, cutting a ship in 3 parts under 800 poly takes no more than 15 minutes of work.

If you want to see some preliminary results this is a work of a couple hours:

http://www.geocities.com/ryuune75/HW2FS.html

Of course it's in FS0 :)
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: SadisticSid on February 13, 2004, 06:34:08 am: VERY nice! :eek: They'll be fantastic when fully armed.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Grug on February 13, 2004, 06:34:40 am: great work. :D

like i said elsewheres, drop by TAP, and we can sort something out :D
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on February 13, 2004, 06:36:46 am: WOW....very nice. Keep working on that, I'd love to see a HW2 TC.

EDIT: Oh, and after my exams (in 5 weeks), you can count me in as a Fredder (and maybe glow-/shinemapper)
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: ryuune75 on February 13, 2004, 06:52:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by Col. Fishguts
WOW....very nice. Keep working on that, I'd love to see a HW2 TC.

EDIT: Oh, and after my exams (in 5 weeks), you can count me in as a Fredder (and maybe glow-/shinemapper)

Well, a fredder is really needed, when it comes to making missions what i produce is totally crap :no:

btw, the Vaygr battlecruisr is already fully armed :) (custom weapons)

also, can someone explain me why if i model a turret in Truespace all is ok, but if i import an existing turret model i can't make FS2 recognize it as a turret??? :ick: I'm trying to make the original turrets on the higaaran battlecruiser to work but i'm not able to!
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: karajorma on February 13, 2004, 10:46:09 am: Take apart the existing turret model and reglue it. That's the best way to make sure it was built correctly. The names are also important if you want PCS autogen to work correctly. If you need help there is a tutorial in my FAQ.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: ryuune75 on February 13, 2004, 10:50:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Take apart the existing turret model and reglue it. That's the best way to make sure it was built correctly. The names are also important if you want PCS autogen to work correctly. If you need help there is a tutorial in my FAQ.

Of course i know your FAQ, that's where is started :)

But i do just that, i import the model, name it correctly, etc...all the things i do when i model a turret from scratch, then in PCS and Modelview all looks ok, but when i start the game (but Fred too) the sub-object simply isn't recognized as a turret... :sigh:
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: karajorma on February 13, 2004, 11:27:33 am: Wanna take a pic of your hierarchy in trueview? That would help a lot.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: ryuune75 on February 13, 2004, 05:18:18 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Wanna take a pic of your hierarchy in trueview? That would help a lot.

Ok i managed to do it, thanks anyway... i now have another problem, every tool i have just crash if i try to convert more than 5000 poly ships, i tryed cob2fs2, modelview, PCS...
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Unknown Target on February 13, 2004, 09:08:37 pm: Wow...
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Taristin on February 13, 2004, 09:14:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
Wow...
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: karajorma on February 14, 2004, 09:56:27 am: Quote
Originally posted by ryuune75

Ok i managed to do it, thanks anyway... i now have another problem, every tool i have just crash if i try to convert more than 5000 poly ships, i tryed cob2fs2, modelview, PCS...

Check the Latest Versions of Everything thread in the SCP forum for a version of PCS which should be capable of converting higher limit ships.
IIRC it has the same version number as the last version of PCS before it so don't let that confuse you.
Title: YES!! This is GOOD!
Post by: Turambar on March 27, 2004, 10:31:11 am: *Bump*!!!

Why hasnt more been done with this, this is one of the coolest things ive seen for this game since the SCP!!

This is the shiznit, yo!
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Turambar on March 27, 2004, 12:22:02 pm: Untouched since Valentines Day, sheesh
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on March 27, 2004, 02:01:37 pm: I think the MOD is looking fantasitc... looks just like HW2 when I view it from my fighter squadrons... excellent!
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: jdjtcagle on March 27, 2004, 07:33:38 pm: Even tho off topic a little I wish I knew what happened to this project.:(
Freespace TC fo Homeworld (http://members.iinet.net.au/~meloury/devils_hitman/)
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: ryuune75 on March 30, 2004, 06:49:24 am: Quote
Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Even tho off topic a little I wish I knew what happened to this project.:(
Freespace TC fo Homeworld (http://members.iinet.net.au/~meloury/devils_hitman/)

That mod is mostly dead, as stated by his creator... :doubt:

btw, i wasn't actually working on a HW2 total conversion, i only converted a few ships just to see how they looks like in FS2, if someone is interested i can work on this a little more, but probably helping out the Apocalypse project guys... i can't do a TC all by myself.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on March 30, 2004, 09:50:53 am: I would be interested in a TC, but that would require more people than 2. Anyone else ?
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on March 30, 2004, 11:35:22 am: What is we had Homeworld 2, with FS2 ships?! :eek2:

That would rock.

However, I would like to see this completed, because it looks so GOOD and so COOL!
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: karajorma on March 30, 2004, 11:50:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by ryuune75

That mod is mostly dead, as stated by his creator... :doubt:

Devil's hitman gave up? That's a shame. He had some nice shivan designs there.
Title: What about a Homeworld 2 TC?
Post by: ryuune75 on March 30, 2004, 12:42:05 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

Devil's hitman gave up? That's a shame. He had some nice shivan designs there.

Looks like so. Last time i checked he released a preliminary version with a Deimos, Herc2, Mara in game, and nothing else, and he said he wasn't going to work on this anymore...