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Title: Aquitane
Post by: kane544 on February 11, 2004, 01:50:51 pm: Is Admiral Petrach in command of the Aquitane in this campaign or is someone else?
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Post by: Zarax on February 11, 2004, 01:54:28 pm: Unless he was cloned and resurrected in Dune style, i don't think so...
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Post by: phreak on February 11, 2004, 02:13:34 pm: inferno takes place in 2401, i don't know the state of medicine in the time, but he still may be perfectly healty at the age of 85 (assuming he was in his mid 50s during FS2). All the hecates were scrapped however
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Post by: kane544 on February 11, 2004, 02:15:25 pm: So your saying that he is retired or something. So who is in command of Icelus class Aquitaine
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Post by: c914 on February 11, 2004, 02:29:36 pm: mayby Petrach son:D :p :p
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Post by: Darkage on February 11, 2004, 02:37:20 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kane544
So your saying that he is retired or something. So who is in command of Icelus class Aquitaine

Command
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Post by: Taristin on February 11, 2004, 06:34:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kane544
So your saying that he is retired or something. So who is in command of Icelus class Aquitaine

No, no no... He was killed in 2384 when the Aquitaine crashed into the surface of Pegesi X...
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Post by: SadisticSid on February 11, 2004, 06:57:57 pm: Given that Admiral Petrarch was probably in command of the whole Capella-era 3rd Fleet, and the Aquitaine was the flagship of that fleet, his modern-day counterpart would probably command the Independence (flagship of the INF 3rd Fleet). The bigger and more powerful destroyers will be commanded by Vice Admirals, and then the lower end ones by Captains. The INF 3rd Fleet would have about a half dozen destroyers and carriers for combat operations, with the Independence co-ordinating all activity from a fortified zone.
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Post by: DeepSpace9er on February 12, 2004, 07:06:31 am: A "fortified zone" kind of like the area where the Diablo comes in?
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Post by: Liberator on February 12, 2004, 12:23:29 pm: That was different, the Diablo completely outclassed the defenders. The destroyers would have killed it had it not jumped away.
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Post by: Woomeister on February 12, 2004, 01:55:47 pm: I wouldn't really call the Diablo blockade mission a fortified area :D
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Post by: SadisticSid on February 12, 2004, 06:12:05 pm: We're just 'pretending' the first version of Chapter 1 didn't happen.

No Star-Trek like alternate timeline technobabble excuses here my friends ;)
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Post by: T-Man on February 13, 2004, 03:09:06 pm: For a flagship, the Independance does alot of missions alone. It's too vulnerable to attack. If my flagship commanded a fleet, then it would move with the fleet, period!!

Okay, it would kind'a take away the manuverability, but the combined fire of the 3rd fleet could probably have leveled the Diablo, and could (if manuvered correctly in a well-planned operation) even give the Gigas a run for its money.
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Post by: Woomeister on February 13, 2004, 03:26:48 pm: You won't see it as much in the new campaign.

The Gigas should be able to take a GTVA fleet on its own, never mind with its own support.
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Post by: SuperCoolAl on February 15, 2004, 01:35:13 pm: first time i saw the icelus aquitaine i thought it was a refitted hecate... until i read the tech room description
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Post by: T-Man on February 16, 2004, 10:41:10 am: Quote
origionally posted by woomeister
The Gigas should be able to take a GTVA fleet on its own, never mind with its own support

Is that before or after the Independance's skilled fighter/bomber wings have disabled its engines and turrets, leaving the Independance to wipe it out, while the rest of the 3rd fleet holds the shivan node to prevent reinforcment:D?

As they say, woomeister "size doesent matter" :ha:

Unless you happen to be the gargant of course:lol:
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Post by: Woomeister on February 16, 2004, 10:57:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by T-Man

Is that before or after the Independance's skilled fighter/bomber wings have disabled its engines and turrets, leaving the Independance to wipe it out,

The Warlock doesn't have that type of offensive capability anymore, and a total disarm of the Gigas is impossible.
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Post by: T-Man on February 16, 2004, 11:07:49 am: darn, there goes my promotion to fleet admril :(
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Post by: Zarax on February 16, 2004, 12:31:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woomeister

The Warlock doesn't have that type of offensive capability anymore, and a total disarm of the Gigas is impossible.

Hmm... the usual subsystems have more hits than the ship thingy?
Latest FRED build complained about it to death...
BTW it complains even for some [V] models :lol:
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Post by: Woomeister on February 16, 2004, 01:14:04 pm: That and with the subsystem strength, it would take you a very long time :D
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Post by: DeepSpace9er on February 16, 2004, 11:30:30 pm: Thats why [V] invented `k :ha:

Are you saying that the Warlock lost its cool beams in the front? Then what the hell is it good for?! Who gives a **** if it can carry 20000 bomber and fighter wings... they never appear unless you put them there to appear. Give it back its offensive capability and scrap another useless destroyer. Nothing SOC, but not the Boreas... maybe the Odin or the Icelus just for originality's sake.

But hey.. your campaign not mine
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Post by: T-Man on February 17, 2004, 01:49:56 am: I will confess, for a super-destroyer, you dont see the Odin much in the campaign, which is a shame, becuase it sounds like it could take on most Shivan ships and win.
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Post by: Setekh on February 17, 2004, 03:54:48 am: Probably kept absent for just that reason - it'd be no fun if it were too easy. ;)
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Post by: Woomeister on February 17, 2004, 04:15:24 am: The Warlock won't go into direct confrontation with enemy fleets, if it found itself in one, its destroyer escorts would protect it while it moves to a safer distance. You won't see a Warlock take on mutiple enemy targets like in M2, it's too valuable to put into that kind of risk.

The Odin was going to be the next player home ship, that's why it wasn't seen in R1.

I recently upgraded it so it now has 56 turrets instead of 30.
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Post by: SadisticSid on February 17, 2004, 04:32:22 am: The Odin will certainly feature in the second coming of chapter 1.
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Post by: DeepSpace9er on February 17, 2004, 06:35:41 am: At least give the Warlock some sort of frontal defence... maybe not as powerful but it would be stupid for the GTVA to build a monster like that which cant even defend itself if the situation called for it.

I guess your going to redo m14 then huh... what a shame :(
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Post by: SadisticSid on February 17, 2004, 06:51:53 am: The Warlock's provisional armament:

16 long range flak cannons
1 forward beam cannon
6 class A plasma cannons
8 disruptor beam cannons
4 heavy torpedo banks
2 AAA beam cannons
4 photon cannons

...which makes it nearly impervious to fighter and bomber attacks at long and medium ranges. Anything the flak can't hit is zapped by the disruptor beams to shut down its engines for a few seconds... and then the flak catches up. :)

M14 will probably be redone, yeah.
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Post by: Woomeister on February 17, 2004, 06:59:05 am: I suppose the Solaris could take on the Nemsis if needed...
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Post by: Zarax on February 17, 2004, 08:39:59 am: Weapon suggestion: In case Shivans still uses flak, they aren't really supposed to use the same weapon as GTVA, so it would be nice to have some "energy flak" effect...
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Post by: Woomeister on February 17, 2004, 08:57:20 am: Shivans didn't use flak in R1, probably won't this time too.
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Post by: Zarax on February 17, 2004, 09:00:55 am: Good. I'm tinkering with my own comcept of advanced terran, vasudan and shivan weaponry and i found flak just silly on shivans...
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Post by: T-Man on February 17, 2004, 10:44:53 am: Maybe the shivans could have a beam cannon that instead of firing in bursts fires as a continus stream like other beam cannons, and can follow its target through space.
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Post by: SadisticSid on February 17, 2004, 11:23:13 am: It can't happen I'm afraid, as there's no provision for a tracking beam in the SCP right now.
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Post by: DeepSpace9er on February 17, 2004, 11:59:00 pm: how about a rapid fire, chain gun-type beam turret that does slight damage per hit but is fairly accurate.

An EMP flak would also be useful to disable incoming warheads.