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Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 13, 2004, 04:11:01 am: The same as i started a terran superjug i have also started a vasuden superjug. Once again based loosley of the old cruiser the Aten. I have a basic mesh for you to eveluate and recomend changes (besides fore polies) as they will come later.

With a count of 160\158 with some unstable geometry that will be fixed later.

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ.jpg)

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ-02.jpg)

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ-03.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Grug on February 13, 2004, 04:15:16 am: not bad, tho, might be better if u turn mesh smooth off...

also maybe some more detail vertically? seems a bit flat...

but yeh good work so far :D

-Grug
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 13, 2004, 04:17:54 am: like my terran superjug its low on detail right now so i can get a feel for what you people think. detail comes soon after i know where i am going to be going
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Grug on February 13, 2004, 04:23:40 am: ah k,

well maybe the fins at front or rear, maybe come up and out a little more? like a shark fin kinda thing...

just a suggestion...

or even so its like a shell over the exposed inner bits of the fighter bay and some of the other vital systems...

keep up the good work :D

-Grug
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Deathstorm V2 on February 13, 2004, 04:27:21 am: Needs a lot less vertical symmetry. Grug's right, fins are good.

A couple of dorsal fins, placed well back along the hull, and maybe a different shape for the ventral section?
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: c914 on February 13, 2004, 04:55:13 am: Boewolf you realy like doing Jugs:D

Center of ship need to be liter fit and add some fins on top.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 13, 2004, 09:39:27 pm: c914 what do you mean when you say Center of ship need to be liter fit??

anyway been playing with fins.

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ-w-01.jpg)

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ-w-02.jpg)

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ-w-03.jpg)

I have experianemted withe the two side fins on different angles but it just didn't look right when looking from the front.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Knight Templar on February 13, 2004, 11:03:42 pm: Not all that Vasudan.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 14, 2004, 01:13:57 am: Its starting to remind me of a Centauri Battle cruiser.

Later!l
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 14, 2004, 02:40:53 am: well i never sayed i was a good vasuden modeler
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: c914 on February 14, 2004, 03:43:47 am: i mean this:
http://photo.starblvd.net/cnineonefour/6-5-5-1078529829?m=1&pg=5&ro=4&co=4
:)
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Taristin on February 14, 2004, 10:52:27 am: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Not all that Vasudan.
:nod: :doubt:
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2004, 10:53:32 am: I think it's too symmetrical on the top / bottom.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Corhellion on February 14, 2004, 09:47:07 pm: I'd say, "call that a Terran/Vasudan destroyer, it doesn't feel totally Vasudan...."

If you want to make something that looks Vasudan, make something that looks like a cross between all 3 capship classes, a bit of Hatshepsut, Aten, and Sobek, give it a graceful, organic-like structure, with launch tubes like the Hatshepsut (make alot of them, maybe 3 on each side) and possible give it 2 arrow head fronts, one on top of each other connected to the body by 2 necks. Just use the existing Vasudan Models (from FS1, FS2 and Inferno...cause Inferno is basically FS3) and form you're on ship around them!

Cor
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Ashrak on February 15, 2004, 12:51:01 am: öools öole a centauri Primus Class IIRC
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: KARMA on February 15, 2004, 06:05:18 am: actually it would be more vasudan if you reverse the ship, with the fins being on the back
btw when you post an untextured WIP shot of your ship, always use faceted shadingsm to let others view the geo
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Zarax on February 15, 2004, 06:10:23 am: What i would like to see is something like an Hatshepsut placed on top of an Het-Ka, reskinned appropriately and with the Het-ka frontal spikes removed... You would get a kickass vessel with an unber main gun (the Hatshepsut part)...
Ok, i'll stop smoking...
Title: Don't give up on it!
Post by: Star Dragon on February 16, 2004, 01:42:54 am: Yeah they beat me to saying it, the first draft did look a lot like the Centauri Primus from B5, but so what? he he, add more details and make the form more flowing , that would help make it look more organic instead of the sharp arrow body feel. For an example I like to think of the Mentu as like a Beetle. Try to picture a Vasudan ship as inspired by something that WAS once alive. Terrans on the other hand are obsessed with "form follows function". Vasudans on the other hand are not so rigid. You could say their outlook is more minbari like, as Aesthetics are as important as engineering...
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Turnsky on February 16, 2004, 02:34:09 am: round the front off a little bit, a single 'neck' ending with a larger front end.. make it a little more 'rounded' in the general body of the ship..
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Setekh on February 16, 2004, 03:21:43 am: I do like it, keep working on it. Actually, it reminds me distantly of a Goa'uld super-destroyer... :)
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 16, 2004, 06:50:49 pm: Hok. Been playing with the fins. Will probably use those results for a completely different modle. I will also probably work on new fins all together for this project. Anyhow, also been working on the body.

Body A

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ-body-a-w.jpg)

Body B

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/V-SJ-body-b-w.jpg)

I tend to like body A more than B.

By the way. which end are you all calling the front? I was inteending the end with the two spikes to be the front if anyone was mistaken into thinking that it was the back.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Taristin on February 16, 2004, 06:59:13 pm: I like A with the spikes being the front. But I don't know if it's Vasudan. Alien, yes, but not Vasudan, to me.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 16, 2004, 07:05:45 pm: I was going to resize and add more turrets and a fighterbay to the aten modle but i can never get the modle to be stable in TS. So i had to scrap the streight modifying of the hull quite early. So i started this hull instead.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Taristin on February 16, 2004, 07:32:53 pm: Heh, it's easier just to copy the aten design. I made a pre-aten carrier for TVWP that is similar enough to tell it's related, but still different. :)
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Setekh on February 17, 2004, 02:53:17 am: Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
I like A with the spikes being the front. But I don't know if it's Vasudan. Alien, yes, but not Vasudan, to me.

Couldn't have said it better myself. :yes:
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Woolie Wool on February 17, 2004, 07:52:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
Its starting to remind me of a Centauri Battle cruiser.

Later!l

GVSJ Primus
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Taristin on February 17, 2004, 08:25:32 pm: Ahh! It's LLivingLarge Reincarnate! ;)
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 18, 2004, 09:43:09 pm: What would you think if i removed the fins and added six leg type structures and mounted turrets underneath them?
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Woolie Wool on February 18, 2004, 10:48:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Ahh! It's LLivingLarge Reincarnate! ;)

:wtf:
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Knight Templar on February 19, 2004, 01:28:57 am: I'd call it the SSJ Punk'd.

:drevil:
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: boewolf on February 28, 2004, 10:35:07 pm: I havn't worked much on the old designes but i have got a new start for you all to evaluate.

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/Ty-VSJ-1.jpg)

(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/VSJ/Ty-VSJ-2.jpg)

Before yo all start sayingthe details are not there and there is too much details on the top and engine bays, they started out being the main hull but i thought they might make a good carpilarace for a vas capship. The rest is still in basic stages.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Taristin on February 28, 2004, 10:47:17 pm: :ick:

None of that odd plating please.
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 29, 2004, 01:28:22 am: IMO, either shorten the neck a bit, or widen the main body a bit, as it looks a bit flimsy up there.

Later!
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Knight Templar on February 29, 2004, 02:20:09 am: Stretch = :wtf:
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: c914 on February 29, 2004, 04:56:42 am: :wtf:
some kind of typhoon
:ick:
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Turnsky on February 29, 2004, 05:02:37 am: get rid of the long "arms" and the plating, and thicken the 'neck' a little too.. give the ship some "depth"..
Title: Vasuden SuperJug
Post by: Woolie Wool on March 01, 2004, 01:21:13 pm: It's a stretched Typhon. Yay.:blah:
Title: Cool
Post by: Star Dragon on March 01, 2004, 05:21:58 pm: I like the mian body Typhon offshoot thing, BUT the arms are way too long and next should be reduced by half. Don't worry about deforming the mian model so much as you can just increase OVERALL size to differentiate it. Concentrate more on the little details, especially the textures. That way when seen side by side it's not far fetched that they retooled some typhon yard(s) and thus it is like 90% identifiable as a large typhon but WAY more bigger and powerful.