Hard Light Productions Forums

Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2004, 09:54:54 am

Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2004, 09:54:54 am: You've possibly heard of it anyways....

http://www.kumawar.com/

Thoughts?

I particularly like the latter bullet point;

Quote

E xperience the toughest fighting of the war. Be the 10th Mountain Division hunting Al Qaeda in Afghanistan or the 101st Airborne defeating the Hussein brothers in Iraq.

Um....surely in the later example, it was a case of about 100 US troops surrounding 2 men trapped in a building?(!)

Thoughts? I think it's bizarre, and it reeks of controversy = sales type design.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 14, 2004, 10:05:40 am: See, the quote at the top really says everything there is to say about them. Semi[olitical cash-in ****holes. Same sort were out hawking memorabilia at the World Trade Towers blast pit a week after all that mess happened.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Rictor on February 14, 2004, 10:13:22 am: And their graphics engine sucks ass. Thats just unexcusable.

They're morons. 'Nuff said.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Dark_4ce on February 14, 2004, 10:18:55 am: Thats just stupid... I checked out the trailer. And the news presenters look even more stupid. Meh... These kinds of games die out fast. thank god....
Title: Re: Games gone too far?
Post by: karajorma on February 14, 2004, 10:46:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
Um....surely in the later example, it was a case of about 100 US troops surrounding 2 men trapped in a building?(!)

3 Men and 14 year old boy if IIRC. That will be a really tough level I'm sure :lol:

Basically it's just a crappy attempt to cash in. IF they were doing it just so people could vent their fury at Al Qaeda it should be done as a free mod for Half Life or UT etc.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 14, 2004, 11:10:31 am: The 14 year old boy is a giant mutated al Qaeda cyborg with gatling guns for arms. Other than that it's a perfectly accurate simulation.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Knight Templar on February 14, 2004, 11:33:10 am: Well it's not like the game would actually be any good. I guess it's the thought that counts in this case, or doesn't, for that matter.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: phreak on February 14, 2004, 11:39:00 am: well im sure it's going to take up less disk space than UT2004 will
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Corsair on February 14, 2004, 11:46:17 am: Looks great :rolleyes:

Ermm...please tell me it'll die fast.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2004, 12:04:04 pm: Who cares? I mean everyone doesnt seem to shaken by what happens in real life, who gives a **** about a computer game?
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Flipside on February 14, 2004, 12:09:41 pm: How about a game where you a lone Iraqi soldier with only a stick and an RPG to defend yourself against 3000 armed-to-the-teeth American soldiers.
Ah, but that wouldn't be politically correct, whereas this is :wtf:

Flipside :D
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Zarax on February 14, 2004, 12:23:51 pm: Oh well, the closest thing you'll ever get is playing the GLA at C&C Generals i guess...
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Rictor on February 14, 2004, 12:49:45 pm: What Flipside said. Is it just me, or is there an enormous bias in games, where its always the crazed Arab terrorists vs the valiant US soldiers.

Alright, I'll quit *****ing now...
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Gloriano on February 14, 2004, 12:59:27 pm: ....oh damn games are for fun darn someone uses them now for political crap where this world goes....
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2004, 02:35:01 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
What Flipside said. Is it just me, or is there an enormous bias in games, where its always the crazed Arab terrorists vs the valiant US soldiers.

Alright, I'll quit *****ing now...

Could it have something to do with the crazed Arab terrorists wanting to return the world to the level of development at or around the 8th century? Who believe that the Koran is the only book you need ever read.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: kasperl on February 14, 2004, 02:37:28 pm: you know, no offence to anyone, but Liberator's (of all names) post, reminds me an awfull lot of some amish family's i've read about.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Flipside on February 14, 2004, 03:11:59 pm: Alas, it is that kind of stereotyping that led to the creation of this game in the first place.
It's so much easier to think of an Iraqi soldier as a Koran crazed physcopath than have to deal with the fact he may an ordinary guy with a wife and kid who are worried about him, who worries about the weather etc, and is placing his life on the line to defend his friends and loved ones, just like the American soldiers. But then that humanizes them, and we wouldn't want that would we?
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: karajorma on February 14, 2004, 03:49:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
Who believe that the Koran is the only book you need ever read.

The same kind of moron who believes that you only need the bible.

Same ****. Different country.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2004, 04:37:32 pm: The main difference is most Christians don't believe that you should be killed for believing differently than them. The same cannot be said for "other" faiths.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2004, 04:40:23 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
The main difference is most Christians don't believe that you should be killed for believing differently than them. The same cannot be said for "other" faiths.

How many people of different faiths (specifically Muslims) do you know? How many of them believe non-believers should be killed?
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: karajorma on February 14, 2004, 04:47:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
The main difference is most Christians don't believe that you should be killed for believing differently than them. The same cannot be said for "other" faiths.

Most muslims don't believe that either. Only a very stupid subset of them.
In fact the muslims were civilised in this manner BEFORE the christians were. Even before the crusades happened muslims were quite happy to let pilgrims visit the holy land.

As for christians not wanting to kill those who believe differently to them go to an abortion clinic and claim to be a doctor who works there. Hand out cards with your address on. See how quickly you end up dead.

As for "other" faiths go find me a group of buddists or jains who are more bloodthirsty than your average christian fundimentalist.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Flipside on February 14, 2004, 05:04:35 pm: It's amazing, sorry Lib, but you have just said it's ok to shoot Iraqis because they are religion mad Physcopaths. So surely saying that Christians don't act in a similar matter is an oxymoron?
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Sandwich on February 14, 2004, 05:16:56 pm: Does this have to turn into another political/religion debate? We all know that the bad guys are bad, the good guys are good, and the hero gets the girl in the end. Give it a rest.
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Odyssey on February 14, 2004, 05:21:20 pm: [color=cc9900]If it's not a political/religion debate, it's not HLP.[/color]
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Mr Carrot on February 14, 2004, 05:27:43 pm: Play as the 10th mountain in Afgnstn.! Wow i cant wait hopefully it will be so realistic that I cant climb up steep slopes and have to call in the Royal Marines to bail me out!
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Ace on February 14, 2004, 05:40:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Does this have to turn into another political/religion debate? We all know that the bad guys are bad, the good guys are good, and the hero gets the girl in the end. Give it a rest.

Unless the girl is actually... a MAN! Cues eerie music...
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Odyssey on February 14, 2004, 05:46:24 pm: [color=cc9900]Now, that's a whole different genre.[/color]
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Rictor on February 14, 2004, 08:44:35 pm: What genre would that be? Transvestitve tycoon perhaps? Where exactly do you buy your games ;);)
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Kamikaze on February 14, 2004, 08:58:56 pm: Ahhh! The dogma! The dogma! Keep it away! *runs around fratically*
Title: Games gone too far?
Post by: Unknown Target on February 14, 2004, 10:40:50 pm: I play games to get away from the dullness, stupidity, and unjust reality, not get thrust even deeper into it.