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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: an0n on February 20, 2004, 03:18:20 pm
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It did it's usual thing of becoming eternally box-ridden mid-story. So (with Shrike's nagging) I axed it in the face.
And seen as the NW crowd are bloody useless (http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1739) when it comes to new ideas for the boards/space, I thought I'd ask here.
Whadaya think the new focus of the soon-to-be redone PenguinBomb forums should be?
NOTE: While it is true that HostDime allow pornography to be hosted on the server, I ain't making it a porn-based forum.
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General game discussion. Would attract many people.
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The gamer-forum thing is so much of a cliche I'd have to kill myself for even attempting it.
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Agricultural Advice Forum for shepards. ;)
I guess you do not want to establish another FS forum.
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Make it a place for ranting about any and everything, but ensure that all posts are in a mock-Irish accent.
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Come on, celebrity pr0n site. You know you want to :nod:
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Hardware - Software discussion?
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Forums for mods? I mean mods for all sort of games.
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There are N gaming-based forums out there, where N is an arbitrarily large number. Why add one more?
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To have N+1?
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I consider my proposal very good....
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A forum for webmasters perhaps? Latest Google tricks? A polling forum for anything under the sun?
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Just a general community site, what's wrong with that? Or maybe provide hosting for art galleries and such.
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Well for my idea... you'll need to rename the site vasudanse.cx
However, considering what happened to the goat one, I don't think it would go over well...
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Are you honestly interested in an idea?
With some web programming knowledge and a little time, you could something which would undoubtedly be both awesome and attract large masses of people.
A game tech-support site. No admins or ****, just users. I'm always pissed when I egt a game (sometimes not through entirely legal means) and then have to search around for days through various boards and IRC chans when I have a problem. Usually, the place where I got it either has no forum or has like 2 posts specific to that game. So no help there. And as you can imagine, the official boards aren't much help either.
So, you create a system whereby users can ask for tech support to get their games working, and another user who knows the solution posts the answer. When you type in the name of the game, you get a set of questions/solutions, so the same one doesn't get asked ad nauseum. And no discrimination based on legitimacy of purchase.
It could be the GameFAQS of game-tech-help.
And if this idea gets implemented, which is doubtful, I am damn well being made a super admin on the board/website/thing.
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A forum for webmasters perhaps?
You probably don't know about Heretic and BBadmins. It crashed and burned faster than Columbia.Latest Google tricks?
[/b]Buh?A polling forum for anything under the sun?
It's been done.Just a general community site, what's wrong with that?
The lack of a community, for one thing.[-Rictors Idea-]
I'm reasonably sure it'd violate the 'no goddamn warez' clause of my hosting T&C's.
I'd be happy to just slap another RPG game onto the boards if I could find one sufficiently different to NW and with enough public interest to make it viable.
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Well in all seriousness the forum crash discouraged me from finishing writing up the V-T war Nodewars.
One idea for a game is something in a fantasy setting with the players as gods and religions as the empires. Your power is based on the amount of worshippers you have and the strength of their faith (or fear :p ) "Characters" that you use in the story debate are also immortals whether humans given those powers or demigods. (offspring of your deity and a human) The world it would be set in would sort of be like classical Greece and Rome. You have one big multicultural city where the religions try to one-up eachother while there's also wars and other conflicts between regions held by followers.
Anyway, the idea is that the rules should allow for some pretty dispicable as well as good deities. There is a basic limit on how advanced the tech gets as well as some basic limits on how much a god can do in a period of time as well as their actions must be within their sphere of influence, but overall it's open for players to do what they want.
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You know, a mythologocial RPG dealie might be pretty l33t. Or you could just do a non-FS based space RPG, which would be cool.
Don't see anything wrong with celeb pr0n either, but hey.
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Make it a forum dedicated to constructing and refining plastic explosives. That has potential.
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Ah yes, it could be the Fight Club of forums.
:yes:
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There already are a couple, and there's not a whole lot to talk about it, but anything that makes Echelon **** itself is a good thing in my book.
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the Alias forum?
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How about the Stryke fan forum?
I'm sure the server load won't be so extreme as to cause instability or anything. Quite. But there is a need, and a heretofore unfilled niche.
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Don't forget the soap. Tallow + Lye =soap. Where you get the tallow from is entirely up to you...
That'de be awesome, seriously. Though you'de get shut down and/or nabbed by the cops in not time. And besides, there are so many Anarchists Cookbook sites out there already.
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And my idea involves no mention of warez. Or, atleast I never meant to give off that impression. Its a tech-help place for games. The site can not be held accountable for where the users aquire them. Lots of people need help for legitimate games and demos where there is not a large community there to help out. For example, I was not able to get the Far Cry demo working, despite the fact that I posted on the official boards several times. So I went without.
And besides, websites that only inform and assist with legally dubious software are not illegal. Take, for example, NForce or the plethora of other ISO webistes out there. Or various CD image and virtual drive software. Because of the dual purpose, that is to say that the service can and is used for legit purposes, they're in the clear.
But whatever.
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an0n: perhaps a non-story based game might be called for. I don't really like writing ****, I do, however, like to go make my ships (or dinosaurs, or little guys with sword), go beat up other people's little ships, and then laugh about it. NW just has too much overhead for an instant-gratification type person like me.
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Yeah but if I was to setup some kind of "Go maul everyone game" it'd need an engine, and considering I God bored of the Campaign Database (http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/dbtest.php) after like 2 days, the likelyhood of me making a complete engine are next-to-none.
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Turn it into an RPG forum
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I'm going to be bitter. NW should never have left. :p
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Originally posted by an0n
You probably don't know about Heretic and BBadmins. It crashed and burned faster than Columbia.
No, I don't know about that. But BB admining was not what I meant. I mean web mastering - the job of delaing with everything that comes with managing a web site. Such as, for example, what other people do when they have a website "on the side", a kind of hobby, and they can't get enough motivation to complete scripting something for it. ;)
Current trends in design - simplicity, power, or something else?
Methods of building a site - outline, then basic framework, then fleshing out, or all the needed functions first, then plugging them in to pages, then putting it all together into a site...
Process of testing a site - against code validators, in multiple browsers, with multiple people at multiple skill levels, etc...
Originally posted by Stryke 9
There already are a couple, and there's not a whole lot to talk about it, but anything that makes Echelon **** itself is a good thing in my book.
Oh, you would drool over the books I got on my shelves... :)
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Why not make it a forum for writing battles, if nothing else?
2 Writers simply choose a battlefield, 2 pawns (ships, crews, heroes, armies, whatever) and maybe a universe as well and duke it out the fine and proper way (similar to RPG style, but with only the 2 of them)
No ending would be determined - the victor is decided by sheer creativity and quality of posts, and is decided amongst the 2 in secret later in the game, as opposed to the beggining (or it may just end up having no winner or looser after all) :)
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Originally posted by Ace
Well in all seriousness the forum crash discouraged me from finishing writing up the V-T war Nodewars.
One idea for a game is something in a fantasy setting with the players as gods and religions as the empires. Your power is based on the amount of worshippers you have and the strength of their faith (or fear :p ) "Characters" that you use in the story debate are also immortals whether humans given those powers or demigods. (offspring of your deity and a human) The world it would be set in would sort of be like classical Greece and Rome. You have one big multicultural city where the religions try to one-up eachother while there's also wars and other conflicts between regions held by followers.
Anyway, the idea is that the rules should allow for some pretty dispicable as well as good deities. There is a basic limit on how advanced the tech gets as well as some basic limits on how much a god can do in a period of time as well as their actions must be within their sphere of influence, but overall it's open for players to do what they want.
a Populous forum?
:p
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*expands Singh's idea*
Hows about:
The members form into small groups, teams if you will, comprising of all manner of artists. You get a few story-writers, some modellers, a renderer or two, a military historian and a PS-Veteran. Then you chose your universe (TRek, B5, Honorverse etc) and/or time-frame and are banished to an associated forum.
From there you engage in warfare against the other teams in that era/universe. You have to compile intel (written and PS'd images) to alter the abilities of your opponent (say by PS'ing one of their characters into an image of someone having a leg amputated) and to justify to me why an attack is warranted.
Once I've okay'd an attack and given them some time to respond with counter-intel, the battle begins. Story-posts give descriptions of the battles while any major damage to the opponent has to be presented in the form of a render/PS-drawing. All this could be drawn-out into a months-long war between teams both in and out of character.
It'd help people improve whatever skill they've chosen to pursue, motivate them to do **** and create enough inter-team bickering that it'd keep people at each others throats and active on the forums.
It'd also mean I could whore myself out as a mercinary in exchange for warez and pron. Or even become T3h U8er JoodG and take flat-out bribes in exchange for 'incapacitating' the account of a valuable opposing team-member.
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Interesting, if not a lot of work. And if spread over a few months, it might go the way of, well, NW.
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Spammer forum.
For spammers. By the King of Spam himself. an0n.
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err.. not really. That's Warpstorm buddy.
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[color=cc9900]I like the idea of that religions thing, although I'd expand it a bit: basically, it'd become something akin to Nodewars but set on Earth and in the past. Say, Egyptian or Greek periods. You could create your own cultures, and because of the lack of electronics etc. (and thus no instant uber-weapons with no concrete description of how they actually work) powergaming would be crippled. It would require people to actually be inventive with what they have, rather than just randomly flinging out new stuff at a rate of knots.
It'd also appeal to a much wider audience, seeing as it wouldn't be at all game-specific or influenced.[/color]
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Unless everyone controlled a specific God from the Greek Pantheon which would be pretty l33t. an0n being Zeus or sommat. People could have society/nations devoted to specific gods and bassically have NW but better and with what Oddyssey said. If there were to be super-weapons of sorts, it'd only be through divine intervention.
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They'd have to be Xena-esq Gods though. Not the all-powerful, 300ft tall, Jason and the Argonaughts kinda Gods.
Someone and Me could take opposing sides of the All-Powerful Good and the All-Consuming Evil, then manipulate the Super-Mod'd Gods into doing stuff to suit our own nefarious ends. Normal Users would post stories about the general activities of their religion/army and could be gifted positions as / control of various demi-Gods, Generals, High-Priests and Mythological Creatures.
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[color=cc9900]I'd be prepared to take the role of Good, if it came to it.
Although, the way you describe it, it might require a lot more people than we potentially have. It shouldn't be hard to get more people interested though, as this is a from-scratch affair.[/color]
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And the rules would be real simple: If it's in a real Greek or Roman legend, you can do it.
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[color=cc9900]Possibly. The risk attached to that is making it far too research-based, however. Either that or it might become limiting.[/color]
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Yeah, but most people know enough about Ancient Greece and Rome to do whatever they need to without having to go read through Pantheon.org.
And if they wanted to do anything special they'd either have to put some effort in and research it (thus eliminating the 'I'll join to destroy the world' people), or clear it with me.
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I'm sure there are plenty of people who are into mythology that wouldn't mind reading through Pantheon or doing some research if they had to. Me being one of them.
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And there's an added bonus I just realised: If it's no longer NW, then Stryke 'eternal trolling' permit expires.
Mwuahaha.
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i like the idea of good vs evil using mythical stories, intermixing stuff might be fun, using thor to smack zues, but it could get annyoing. if you go classical stuff here, warn Stu, he'd love this.
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Aw, hell. I never even got an opportunity to use the damned thing.
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*kills all the hundreds of hidden forums at NW and cuts the crap loose to make way for the renovation*
Now, where's Sheepy when you need to impose your will on him?
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[color=cc9900]Presumably you want Sheepy for graphics stuff - if you haven't found him yet then I can do graphics stuff. Honest.[/color]
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In the time-honoured, back-stabbing traditions of NW; Whomever shall maketh thine bestest graphics the soonestest shalt be madeth an admin in the placeth of his predecessor.
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[color=cc9900]Fair enough. What do you want as a general image (i.e. what of, what genre, any particular colours you're aiming for, etc.), and what size ought it to be?[/color]
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I'll also do up some logo graphics.
As for a title....
Gods of the Old World
Also, an0n's whole idea of good v.s. evil is a good idea. However there should be a law v.s. chaos bit in there too.
Plus some bits of Norse mythology such as Ragnarok and all are starting to come true, etc.
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What about Egypt?
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Ideally I'd like to have things from Norse, Egyptian, Greek, Roman and Aztec/Mayan to give a nice range of ideologies and abilities, but there's the geographical and temporal aspects to consider.
And as for style, I'd say dark-egyptian. Think "How would Anubis decorate his temple?".
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Lots of chew bones and turds?
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Dead bodies you fool.
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I was thinking Royal-blues and Gold, but the dead bodies thing could be pretty cool.
Some zombie-corpses (ala The Mummy) piled at the bottom of the forum index could be pretty cool.
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This should be fun.
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Originally posted by an0n
Ideally I'd like to have things from Norse, Egyptian, Greek, Roman and Aztec/Mayan to give a nice range of ideologies and abilities, but there's the geographical and temporal aspects to consider.
And as for style, I'd say dark-egyptian. Think "How would Anubis decorate his temple?".
How about Asian in there as well? ;)
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Now that would be a fecking confused theme.
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[color=cc9900]At first, I thought about being adventurous. Then I realised I actually have very little time to be adventurous in. So I made this quickly in Photoshop, and it ain't that good, but I'm for some reason determined to post it anyway. See what you think. I made up a name too - Mythol-RPG - which sounds vaguely like "Mythology". Well, vaguely. Take it or leave it.
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Odyssey/mrpg/mythol-rpg.jpg)[/color]
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and it kinda sounds like alcohol, so an0n ought to like it.
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Make it look more evil.
Remember it's not just armies and navies, but also a war between the Gods. And I'll probably be reanimating the dead at some point in the game, so you might wanna throw in a Spawn-esq zombie.
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[color=cc9900]~fetches graphics tablet~
Okay, here we go. Added lightning, blood, and a random zombie critter.
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Odyssey/mrpg/mythol-rpg-col.jpg)[/color]
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yuck, make the blood darker, or black if possible. it looks like ketchup this way.
perfect work otherwise, really.
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[color=cc9900]Whoopsie, forgot that adjustment layer. Fixed, pic updated. Thanks.[/color]
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It might be an idea to make it fit the New Style (http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum) of the forums.
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[color=cc9900]What, like giving parts of the thing a blue hue?[/color]
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Yeah.
And kill the bubbles.
Make each image a layer, then use the eraser to make them fade into each other.
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[color=cc9900]Sure. Almost everything you see on there is a layer anyway. Although it might look a little bland, without the lines... We'll see. I'll do it a little bit later.[/color]
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And you're now battling Sheepy for position of Graphics Admin.
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[color=cc9900]Okay, I tried colourising segments of the image, but unfortunately it just seems to make it look tacky. So I just colourised the whole thing, bar the blood. I also played with the seam to get rid of the bubble-effect, but couldn't bring myself to get rid of it entirely. How does this look?
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Odyssey/mrpg/mrpg-test.jpg)[/color]
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Too plain.
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[color=cc9900]What is? Something new I did to it, or the whole thing in general including past versions?[/color]
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It's too white.
The images are fine (if not as horrifically violent as I'd like) but the whiteness is just.....too plain.
And I still don't like the bubbles.
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[color=cc9900]Okay, well, I'll think about what do to do with it. Expect a revised version tomorrow evening, provided I don't get too much homework.[/color]
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[color=cc9900]Righty-ho, done. The first image is the unhued version, which I feel to be the most artistically oriented. It doesn't fit too well with the page, though:
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Odyssey/mrpg/mrpg-test2.jpg)
And the second version, quickly hued to fit. I might not've got the hues quite right, if it's that bad tell me and I'll do 'em again, taking a little more time:
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Odyssey/mrpg/mrpg-test3.jpg)
I'm not sure about the yellow. I made a compromise between what I want and what you have on the forum.[/color]
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Check out Sheepy's editted version of your old banner that I've temporarily stuck as the new header.
And were those images B&W to start with or did you strip the coloring? C'z they might look better if you left the colour and just skewed them into the blue some.
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[color=cc9900]Yeah, I saw it. I don't really like the premise, but if you want that bit in the middle yellow, yellow it shall be. Can I keep my font, though? (I don't have the one Sheepy's using anyway)
They were colour to start with. Trust me, they would neither fit very well together nor hue blue very well if they had stayed colour.
I trust you prefer the layout now to previous versions, at least?[/color]
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As for the banner, We'll juse use Sheepy's modified version of yours that's currently up.
As for everyone else: Get your asses over to the New Forums (http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=122) and give some input.
*bump*
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i'd start a new thread to announce the new RPG thingy.
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Yeah, but we need a name for it before I can start whoring it out to the populous.
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mythol seems reasonable.
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Doesn't sound evil enough though.
Especially if we take the Holy-War route with the setting.
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"Playing God"?
**** if I know. I'm still not entirely clear on what concept you're working on, except that I don't like it.
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Hell's trying to invade Heaven using The Bridge, a big expanse of 'land' leading from Hell to the Gate Of Heaven. The 'West' of the Bridge gradually gets more and more hellish till you reach the walls of Hell. The 'East' of the Bridge gets more and more heavenly till it hits the walls of Heaven (and the Gates).
The various major ancient religions exist on Earth soley for the purpose of recruiting troops to battle each other on The Bridge once they're dead.
Players take a place as anything from a run-of-the-mill dead person to a God presiding over hundreds of thousands of souls on The Bridge.
The various mythological landmarks (Oracles, Styx etc) are all present on the Bridge and some present a way for the dead to return to Earth.
The basic idea is that players try to gain territory in the war between Heaven and Hell, or they go Mercinary and try to get back to a life on Earth.
But this is just an idea at the moment. It just happens to be the most developed of several possible settings.
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Hm. Better than I was thinking, at least.
Yeah, that'd work, so long as you get a developed system this time. Else you'll get twink attacks like, um... all my old NW factions and everybody fighting over what actually is happening and all that ****, and it'll just be a bad deal all over. And nobody'll come.
Anyway. Revised name suggestion on the board.
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i posted some other idea's about the setting in the thread too, btw.