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Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on February 24, 2004, 06:02:22 am
I just noticed that GS has started its Title Fight (http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight) Tournament. Here's (http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight/whatisit.shtml) what it is, here's (http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/0101.shtml) the first face-off, and here's (http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/0104.shtml) one I know a lot of you will be interested in (Deus Ex vs. SS2).

Interestingly, you can vote multiple times... pity FreeSpace (and not even Descent) is on there. In fact, I think I only found one space-sim (X-Wing vs. Tie). Here's the table of future battles (http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight/brackets.shtml).
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on February 24, 2004, 08:43:14 am
OOH!!! See the next-to-last question!!!! FREESPACE 2!!!!

http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight/whatisit.shtml

GO VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I suggest everyone include Shrike's "WE ARE HLP" signiature in their comment field:

[q]We are Hard Light Productions. You will lower your firewalls and surrender your keyboards. We will add your intellectual and vernacular distinctiveness to our own. Your forums will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.[/q]

(Un-capitalized) ;)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Bobboau on February 24, 2004, 09:45:26 am
k, gone dun
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Unknown Target on February 24, 2004, 10:06:40 am
Sandwich, where is it? All I see is an option for you to write it in.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Stealth on February 24, 2004, 10:12:13 am
yeah that's the point... it's still eligible
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on February 24, 2004, 12:30:08 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Stealth
yeah that's the point... it's still eligible


:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

And they specifically mentioned it, too. ;7
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Goober5000 on February 24, 2004, 01:09:43 pm
Done'd. :)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on February 24, 2004, 01:18:08 pm
lol - I love the auto-response email:

[q]Fargo: Look, shaithis: another grudge submission!
shaithis: Do you remember the deal we made where whenever a new one comes in, I get to punch you in the face?
Fargo: No, I don't remember any deal like th... OWWW! YOU PUNCHED ME! YOU PUNCHED ME IN THE FACE!
shaithis: [maniacal laughter]

Thanks for your Grudge idea!  We'll keep this in mind.  We get tons of e-mail, so we can't respond to it all personally, but we appreciate it. Keep the ideas coming!

-Fargo & shaithis[/q]
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Fineus on February 24, 2004, 01:18:40 pm
Done...

...'d.

Edit: Yeah they clearly have to much free time on their hands. Still it keeps things light hearted ;)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: aldo_14 on February 24, 2004, 01:45:53 pm
whatever helps you thru' the night
my paws keep going to turn on the satellite
always look to the positive
i don't feel the pain when i'm watching the title fight
Title: Gamespy Title Fight: Freespace 2 Neglected
Post by: Garfield3d on February 24, 2004, 02:31:27 pm
Happy February day, fellow denizens.

I'm not sure how many of you guys visit Gamespy, but recently they had a "Title Fight" feature where 64 games would duke it out in a voting system organized by brackets (much like any playoff system like... NCAA March Madness). For their Space Simulation category, they included Tie Fighter, X-Wing: Alliance, and several Wing Commander games as candidate. And, as you can probably guess from the subject line of this post, they neglected Freespace. I really liked some of the games they listed, especially Tie Fighter, but for them to completely spork Freespace 2, well, it was disconcerting.

However, Gamespy says that they're taking in "write-in" candidates for each game category, including Space Simulations. Freespace 2 still has a chance to shove its way back in, and looking at some of the games under consideration, it's a little proposterous that Freespace 2 was not listed.

Lets try to correct it!
http://www.forumplanet.com/titlefight/topic.asp?fid=7215&tid=1300524 and http://www.forumplanet.com/gamespy/topic.asp?fid=1422&tid=1296353&p=27 are two threads on their forums concerning the issue.

The first thread should have all the instructions on writing in a candidate. You don't need to be verbose in your explanation. A quick message should do. Now, I don't know if Freespace 2 can go all the way. Still, we need to let them know that they dropped the big pickle by having a Freespaceless tournament! Is anyone else just as gobstopped as I am?
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on February 24, 2004, 02:33:17 pm
:eek2::yes: *sends off submission*
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Unknown Target on February 24, 2004, 02:49:32 pm
Already in General Discussion :p
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Ghostavo on February 24, 2004, 03:14:15 pm
Gamespy has gone to hell... this is the last (of many) straw!

They say Black & White was an over hyped game, they put Starcraft only as the 2nd best RTS ever.... the line has to be drawn here!! :mad:
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: karajorma on February 24, 2004, 03:22:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
Gamespy has gone to hell... this is the last (of many) straw!

They say Black & White was an over hyped game


Black & White was overhyped. It was a good game but it had some pretty big flaws in it.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Garfield3d on February 24, 2004, 03:49:09 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
Already in General Discussion :p


Oh, smuckers. Sorry about that. I had just looked through the Freespace forums, and I passed over the "Hard Light" forum.

Okay, well, anyho, vote, vote! Although I imagine a fair number of you have already done so by now....
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Liberator on February 24, 2004, 03:49:21 pm
Starcraft was 2nd?  What was first?
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Ghostavo on February 24, 2004, 04:02:13 pm
Total Annihilation...

I almost chocked when I saw Starcraft in 2nd... I was thinking

"What are they smoking?"
"I wonder if they can give me some of that?!?!"
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: ChronoReverse on February 24, 2004, 04:07:32 pm
Wow, TA is first?  There is justice...
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Unknown Target on February 24, 2004, 04:13:51 pm
Homeworld!
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Ghostavo on February 24, 2004, 04:42:33 pm
Homeworld took the 6th place... alas...

http://www.gamespy.com/top10/february04/rts/index6.shtml
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Knight Templar on February 24, 2004, 09:54:15 pm
TA rocks. If only the AI was better.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: DeepSpace9er on February 24, 2004, 11:05:45 pm
WTF... this guy put in his post Freespace 2 but didnt include it in the contest... What a complete asshole!
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on February 25, 2004, 06:20:04 am
Here we go, threads merged. :)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on February 25, 2004, 04:28:23 pm
Here's another couple of threads to spa-errrr..... post in. :D

http://www.forumplanet.com/titlefight/topic.asp?fid=7209&tid=1300419

http://www.forumplanet.com/titlefight/topic.asp?fid=7215&tid=1300963

http://www.forumplanet.com/titlefight/topic.asp?fid=7215&tid=1300554
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on February 26, 2004, 04:21:38 am
*seeds steak storm over Forumplanet*
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Flaser on February 27, 2004, 03:30:19 pm
FS in the "Extra Life Section?" What's with that?

BTW The first place of TA is more justifiable if you take a look at its Modding community. Absolute Anihilation for instance completely changed the feel of the game - and there are terrible AIs to plug in that beat the crap out of you in 9/10 ocassions.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on February 27, 2004, 05:13:54 pm
VOTE NOW!!!

http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/xl1.shtml
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: mikhael on February 27, 2004, 06:22:31 pm
The only game on that list that deserves to win is System Shock 2. All others pale by comparison.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Su-tehp on February 27, 2004, 06:29:37 pm
As of my posting (and my vote for FS2, of course) I am happy to report that FS2 has moved up to 3rd place with 258 votes. :)

Go, FS2! Gooooooooo...

And what the frick is Castlevania, anyway???
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on February 27, 2004, 06:35:15 pm
*bans Mik* :p


Quote
Originally posted by Su-tehp
And what the frick is Castlevania, anyway???


Precisely what I was wondering. :-/
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: akeizm on February 27, 2004, 07:15:59 pm
it won't let me vote :(
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: diamondgeezer on February 27, 2004, 07:21:06 pm
CastleVania was a heavyweight Nintendo franchise in the days of the NES, but now lags behind the likes of Metroid and Zelda. The heroes of the various games are usually sucessive generations of the Belmont family who kick vampire arse with bullwhips and crossbows and whatnot. The originals were 2D jump-and-whip-stuff platformers but the modern versions are pretty decent 3D adventures from what I hear
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Ghostavo on February 27, 2004, 07:48:28 pm
You don't know Castlevania? OMG...
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: mikhael on February 27, 2004, 08:32:32 pm
System Shock 2 > Freespace 1 & 2 combined, any day of the week. Its a masterpiece of gaming that won more awards, both critical and popular than both of the Freespaces combined.

I would argue, btw, that Castlevania was never a 'nintendo franchise'. Whereas it was indeed on the nintendo, it was a Konami franchise. Zelda and Metroid, by comparison are Nintendo franchises.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Levyathan on February 27, 2004, 09:20:37 pm
Quote
Originally posted by mikhael
The only game on that list that deserves to win is System Shock 2. All others pale by comparison.

You, sir, deserve a very special hug.
*hugs mikhael*
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Unknown Target on February 27, 2004, 10:39:30 pm
Voted. Long live Freespace 2, fight the power! :D
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Goober5000 on February 27, 2004, 10:59:56 pm
w00tage:

Castlevania: 790
Freespace 2: 498
System Shock 2: 484

We're getting there. :)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on February 28, 2004, 12:41:25 am
Hah, all our write-in complaining worked! Awesome. *votes* :)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Garfield3d on February 28, 2004, 04:03:36 am
I liked System Shock 2, but I'm going to break my consensus from System Shock 2 because of two things: 1.) Deus Ex, made by Warren Spector and much of the System Shock 2 team, is already in the tournament and already represents an evolution of the System Shock 2 design, and 2.) Freespace 2 hasn't had a chance yet. While I was sad to see System Shock 2 lose, it has already gone head to head with its predecessor and been dropped.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Stunaep on February 28, 2004, 04:17:17 am
Mik: No.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Raptor on February 28, 2004, 05:05:57 am
Voted.

Freespace 2 now in 2nd, with 751 votes!

Leader (can't remember the Title, didn't look) currently on 1001.

We're getting there!

mikhael: Traitor
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Johnmike on February 28, 2004, 08:46:50 am
Second...  =/  And why's it already in Extra Life?  Lost before?
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Corsair on February 28, 2004, 09:20:17 am
*votes*
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: JC Denton on February 28, 2004, 11:06:48 am
So far, we're lagging by 226 votes behind Castlevania.  If this is any indication, I think FS2 has a decently good chance of winning this one.

*votes*
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: magatsu1 on February 28, 2004, 11:21:48 am
*also votes*

For Castlevania!!







just kidding!!
System Shock2 was a real loyalty test though..:sigh:
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: KillaVirus on February 28, 2004, 12:00:08 pm
*voted*


looks good  freespace 2 can make it

 just vote everyone :)

1150
to
1500 we can make it
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Ryx on February 28, 2004, 12:09:38 pm
voted. :)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Levyathan on February 28, 2004, 02:17:08 pm
Oh well. The world was never meant to be fair anyway.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: TopAce on February 28, 2004, 03:10:20 pm
I voted, but personally I doubt FreeSpace 2 will be able to make it. They close the poll on Monday. 1271 - 1607.

*Does calculation in head*
The difference is 336 votes-
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Corsair on February 28, 2004, 04:58:27 pm
:sigh:
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Windrunner on February 28, 2004, 06:43:55 pm
can one person vote only once or multiple times?
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on February 28, 2004, 07:02:29 pm
I'm actually not sure. But it's probably a good idea not to vote more than once - as Sandwich pointed out, it would suck if we won but got disqualified. :nervous:
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: TopAce on February 29, 2004, 04:51:20 am
Is a solid second place good?
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Bobboau on February 29, 2004, 05:07:29 am
well were still 400 behind castlevainia
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on February 29, 2004, 02:32:45 pm
Oh well... we put up a good fight, but it doesn't look like we're anywhere near overtaking 1st. Shame.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Johnmike on February 29, 2004, 03:52:41 pm
Do you think that maybe because it only got a chance in an Extra Life round it deserves another shot?  It's worth a try, right?  ...And it's in second.  It's very, very hard to match a game with the power of Castlevania.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: aldo_14 on February 29, 2004, 03:57:06 pm
Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
Is a solid second place good?


Makes it ahead of;

Gran Turismo 3   
Marathon    
Madden NFL 2004
SSX 3   
System Shock 2
Ultima Online
VF4: Evolution
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Johnmike on February 29, 2004, 03:58:26 pm
Indeed.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on February 29, 2004, 06:25:12 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Johnmike
Do you think that maybe because it only got a chance in an Extra Life round it deserves another shot?  It's worth a try, right?  ...And it's in second.  It's very, very hard to match a game with the power of Castlevania.


Not that I disagree with your sentiment, but the Extra life round is the 'another shot'. :o
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Fractux on February 29, 2004, 06:42:53 pm
I think it's rigged... :)

Everyone knows that FS2 should win... the GS poll is just in denial.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: TrashMan on March 01, 2004, 05:39:40 am
I could vote from several different computers from my coleuge...I can give FS2 at least 20 votes that way...
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Ghostavo on March 01, 2004, 08:47:58 am
Castlevania should be taken out of the poll for having lost a previous match. Same with System Shock 2.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Goober5000 on March 01, 2004, 10:23:31 am
They all lost a previous match.

Hm, if several people here did what TrashMan's doing, that'd be 20 * something = a lot. :)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Sandwich on March 01, 2004, 12:15:22 pm
Not much time left... when you vote, make sure that your votes register. If GS doesn't accept your vote as valid, they don't say so, they just don't up the count.
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Hippo on March 01, 2004, 02:03:38 pm
it has vote=1 if its alread counted... just refresh or re-paste the url without it, and keep doing it. Unfortuneately, it says that gamespy voting poll's are not compatable wih my form of AOL... :hopping: as i see it, gamespy is a pacific coast company, meaning we have about an hour...
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: TopAce on March 01, 2004, 02:16:40 pm
We lost.
Did I say something new?
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on March 01, 2004, 08:26:50 pm
For those who didn't see, we went down 2242 to 2835. Ah well. :)
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: jdjtcagle on March 01, 2004, 08:37:07 pm
if only the fs2_open was public, public
SCP # 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: Setekh on March 01, 2004, 08:41:53 pm
Lol, if you really want that day to come sooner, go sign up for 3.6 testing in the SCP forum. Errr, unless you already have. :D
Title: GameSpy Title Fight Tournament
Post by: jdjtcagle on March 01, 2004, 08:45:49 pm
testing!!...I'm risking everything right know if my parents catch me on the the computer.:)
so till my grades come up I'm going to be very careful not to get caught