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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Killfrenzy on February 29, 2004, 11:20:25 pm
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11 out of 11! Full house for Peter Jackson, and very well deserved IMHO. :)
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Indeed. How many films have won 11 Oscars in the past? Ben Hur and Titanic?
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Ben Hur got 11 and was nominated for 12.
Titanic got 11 and was nominated for 14.
LOTR: ROTK was nominated for 11 and won 11. I think that's a pretty good pedigree! :D
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city of god should have gotten at least one, imo.
boring speeches, tho. but billy crystal was great.
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LOTR's adapted screenplay was overrated though. And Murray should've won for Lost in Translation.
Good thing Coppola got his award. Old Frankie must be proud.
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oi, there forgiven for the last 3 years.
heh, i wanted jonny to get best actor :P
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Murray should have got best actor imho. LOTR deserved its oscars though. However, my highlight of the show was when Michael Moore came out in the beggining doing his whole "Shame on you" speech, then getting stepped on by the Olliephaunt! Priceless. :D
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Mmmm, I didn't think Murray was that good. Scarlet Johannesen should have won best actress. Good movie, that.
And finally, some justice for the hobbits.
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I'm torn on Best Actor. I thought it should have gone to Bill Murray or Johnny Depp, and I just can't decide which really deserved it more. I thought Depp was incredibly entertaining in Pirates. Bill Murray, however, was absolutely fabulous in Translation. He--and Scarlet Johannsen, too--nailed his part PERFECTLY.
I gotta say, btw, Lost in Translation was easily the best movie this year after LotR:RotK. I think Coppola nailed the experience of jetlagg american suffering culture shock in Japan. I think she nailed Japanese culture pretty well too. That movie portrayed, basically, my first two weeks in Japan. :D It got easier after the first three months though. :) Man, do I ever miss it.
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I thought Depp kicked ass in POTC, I mean it wasn't very deep but its very entertaining. And it takes a great actor to be able to act that sort of drunk/crazy thing. Pulled it off perfectly.
And I *loved* Lost in Translation. However, I didn't think that Bill Murray did anything exceptional. He had the same face and same style of acting as always. Not to say that it was bad, but it was same old. Scarlett Johhansen on the other hand was masterful IMHO. Subtelty baby, thats where its at. To me, the movie just gave me this warm fuzzy feeling inside. Its was refreshing and cool that the attraction was mostly non sexual. I can imagine most other directors just making it a straight romantic movie. Like the scene where, after the karaoke, she rests her head on his sholder. Genius.
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I'm glad that LOTR won so many awards, but I was disappointed by the lack of awards that City of God and Lost in Translation got.
(Edit: Holy crap, sorry, I got some awards mixed up... edited now.)
I genuinely thought that Sofia Copolla deserved the "best directing" award. Her placement of such subtle elements, such as silence, were wonderfully done. The silence doesn't provoke impatience or dullness from viewers because every moment of silence adds to the development of each character. The "bed scene" was very well done. Normally you'd think of something more intimate, but that scene was intimate in the form of friendship. And so many other things that, if not done right, could just murder the pace of the movie....
Oh well.
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Wait, where was the Matrix Revolutions? I would have thought that it would ATLEAST be on a few nominee lists. I mean, c'mon, special effects.
Another film I really dug: Confessions of a Dangerous Mind.
BTW, I just learned from my parents that Nicholas Cage is also a Copolla, but changed his name. That family just keep poppin' 'em out.
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pffft...
*gives his oscar to the FS1 intro cutscene :P*
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Very glad LOTR won like it did, now maybe we'll see some Long Form Big Budget movies of other Books. Pern or maybe a decent D&D, not that the first one was bad, it was just meh.
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I just got back from a friend's house after watching the Oscars there with him and his wife. She's a fanatic about yelling at the actresses' fashion sense. Her vitriol makes me shudder sometimes.... *shudder* :shaking:
As for LOTR: ROTK, it deserved all the awards it got, IMHO, EXCEPT MAYBE for Best Editing. I mean, the friggin movie was 3 and 1/2 hours long AND had 5 different endings! How the hell does it makes sense for THAT kind of movie to win Best Editing???
Best Actress: Charlize Theron DEFINITELY deserved that award because she looked so completely transformed in Monster. Her character's face and her real face are almost impossible to see as the same thing if you don't know any better. She deserved the award just for that transformation alone.
Best Actor: I was expecting Bill Murray to win, but Sean Penn really did deserve it after 3 previous nominations.
Billy Crystal: OMG, the funniest Oscar presenter EVER. Good thing they brought him back.
I especially liked when he was talking to the 13-year-old Whale Rider nominee (can't remember her name) and said: "Thirteen years ago, the world was completely different. President Bush was in office, the economy was in the tank and we had just finished a war in Iraq."
LOL! PRICELESS! :lol: :D
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Oh yeah. The little chick from Whale Rider gave an amazing performance in the movie. I would have liked it if she had won. Some mighty fine acting, especially for such a young age. When I saw that movie, I posted here to recommend it. I didn't get a single reply :D:D
But Charlize Theron...meh. There were two better choices atleast, for Whale Rider and Lost in Translation.
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
Best Actress: Charlize Theron DEFINITELY deserved that award because she looked so completely transformed in Monster. Her character's face and her real face are almost impossible to see as the same thing if you don't know any better. She deserved the award just for that transformation alone.
a lot of appearence transformation lies in makeup (which I almost think monster should have been nomated for too), but yeah, she seemed to be doing a great part in that movie.
and what's up with two awards for sound mixing _and_ sound editing, and a joint award for make-up _and_ masks? doesn't really give ordinary stuff half a chance there, imo.
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Charlize Theron did NOT deserve an Oscar for getting ugly. Considering that the woman can barely act, that Oscar should have gone to the Whale Rider girl. Now THAT was some class acting. Hell, Diane Keaton deserved it more than Theron did. The Oscars have a history of throwing away the Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress honors on pretty women who get ugly for a role..
Originally posted by Liberator
Very glad LOTR won like it did, now maybe we'll see some Long Form Big Budget movies of other Books. Pern or maybe a decent D&D, not that the first one was bad, it was just meh.
I cannot think of many fantasy novels that could be a worse thing to make for the screen than Perl. There's like two storylines, and they're both teenaged-angst-coming-of-age stupidity. *shudder*
What we need on the big screen is Peter Jackson doing the Chronicles of Narnia. That would rock. :)
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/checks IMDB
Keisha Castle-Hughes is her name. Imagine winning an Oscar at that age. If it was me, I'de never let the other nominees live it down :D:D But it would have been deserved.
But, I'm not a believer in the Academy's judgement. Ever since they didn't give Fight Club a single award, I don't trust them to recongize good acting or directing (or writing, or cinematography) if it bit them in the ass.
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Originally posted by mikhael
Charlize Theron did NOT deserve an Oscar for getting ugly. Considering that the woman can barely act, that Oscar should have gone to the Whale Rider girl. Now THAT was some class acting. Hell, Diane Keaton deserved it more than Theron did. The Oscars have a history of throwing away the Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress honors on pretty women who get ugly for a role..
I cannot think of many fantasy novels that could be a worse thing to make for the screen than Perl. There's like two storylines, and they're both teenaged-angst-coming-of-age stupidity. *shudder*
What we need on the big screen is Peter Jackson doing the Chronicles of Narnia. That would rock. :)
Nah, Hyperion :p
Space battles, monsters, aliens, gore, sex.
What more can you ask for? :p
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Originally posted by mikhael
What we need on the big screen is Peter Jackson doing the Chronicles of Narnia. That would rock. :)
*does double-take at the username*
Agreed -- though I'm surprised to hear you advocate it, given the subject. :)
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Oooh, Narnia, that would be awesome. :)
I also thought Murray and Johannsen nailed their roles in Lost In Translation. I loved the whole thing - it was very refreshing. Plus, that Japanese director made me laugh. "Cutto cutto cutto CUTTO!!!"
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Ben Hur got 11 and was nominated for 12.
Titanic got 11 and was nominated for 14.
LOTR: ROTK was nominated for 11 and won 11. I think that's a pretty good pedigree! :D
Titanic is ****! A clear proof of humanities collective stupidity!!!
I would really like to se something from Sillmarillion!
Turin Turanbar! The challenge of the Noldor king to Morgoth! (what was the name? Finarfin? Fingoln?)
The downfall of Numenor! The War of the Valar! The 2'nd war....
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Originally posted by mikhael
What we need on the big screen is Peter Jackson doing the Chronicles of Narnia. That would rock. :)
http://www.narniaweb.com/content.asp?id=2
Andrew Adamson is directing, WETA is doing the special effects.
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Originally posted by kode
http://www.narniaweb.com/content.asp?id=2
Andrew Adamson is directing, WETA is doing the special effects.
Wow, sweet. :)
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Originally posted by TrashMan
Titanic is ****! A clear proof of humanities collective stupidity!!!
I would really like to se something from Sillmarillion!
Turin Turanbar! The challenge of the Noldor king to Morgoth! (what was the name? Finarfin? Fingoln?)
The downfall of Numenor! The War of the Valar! The 2'nd war....
Fingolfin.
I don't think audiences would have the patience. I mean, they complained about LOTR being too long to sit trhough. The Silmarillion would take even longer to tell. I wouldn't mind, but it just would not have the same mass market appeal as LOTR.
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Originally posted by TrashMan
Titanic is ****! A clear proof of humanities collective stupidity!!!
Titanic only gets good once the iceberg shows up and if you ignore the completely unrealistic 'characters' and love story. :D
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Originally posted by mikhael
What we need on the big screen is Peter Jackson doing the Chronicles of Narnia. That would rock. :)
:nod: :yes:
Originally posted by Goober5000
*does double-take at the username*
Agreed -- though I'm surprised to hear you advocate it, given the subject. :)
Hah! I had the exact same response! :lol:
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Originally posted by Stunaep
LOTR's adapted screenplay was overrated though.
I will never forgive them for ****ing up the scenes where Aragorn and Treebeard were introduced, as well as Gandalf's encounter with Saruman.
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Titanic only gets good once the iceberg shows up and if you ignore the completely unrealistic 'characters' and love story. :D
Go iceberg go!:drevil:
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Originally posted by Goober5000
*does double-take at the username*
Agreed -- though I'm surprised to hear you advocate it, given the subject. :)
You know, I think you lot have entirely the wrong idea about my beliefs. :D
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Indeed. Mik just loves good fantasy storytelling. Don'tcha? :D
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Yes, I do, Steak, but that's not what I was talking about.
I argue religion and the niceties of whatever theology is being discussed at the moment. I don't subscribe to a particular faith.
I am, however, a man of faith. My faith, however is private and very personal, and hence I don't really discuss it much in public except in the vaguest terms. I do discuss it in private with people I feel comfortable around. My faith is not a matter for open public debate.
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
I will never forgive them for ****ing up the scenes where Aragorn and Treebeard were introduced, as well as Gandalf's encounter with Saruman.
The army of Dead was the biggest mistake. They couln't kill...They just had the power of terror. This way it makes it look like Aragorn could have just walced inside Mordor with them...
And where are the Dunedain?
Allso, the "good guys" have been made even weaker than in the book. The Forces of Mordor never made it past the first gate of Gondor.... The Witch King never broke Gandalfs staff... Aragorn led far greater forces into Mordor than it was shown in the movie...
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awesome. :)
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The Oscars... good riddance for another year. I hate it when Alias gets knocked back because of it.
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Originally posted by TrashMan
The army of Dead blahblahblah. They blahblah...They just blahblahblahblah. This way blahblahblah Aragorn could have blahblahblahblah Mordor blahblahblah...
blahblahblahblah Dunedain?
Allso, the "good guys" blahblahblah, blahblahblahblahblah. blahblahblahblah, blahblah. blah blahblahblah, blahblah; blahblahblah
Quite with the endless whining already. You made your point the first eleventy-one times you stated it. Its not the same as the books. Guess what: if it gets remade, the Hobbit won't be either.
And you know what? The movies ARE BETTER FOR IT. You know why? Because for the rest of the world, no one knows who the bloody Atlanteans--er, DUNEDAIN are.
Movie: Not made for obsessive-compulsive fanboys. Movie: made to make money in the box office. Don't like it? remake it with all the details you're so obsessively fanboyish over.
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Agreed. I thought the rendition was perfectly suited to the purpose. Obviously the Academy did too.