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Title: Yay! A Freespace animation!
Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 04, 2004, 11:36:55 am: Well, here's something for you all. An animation of the first Shivan attack since the end of the Great War.

And of course a couple of images to encourage you to download :)

(http://3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/14_year_war/LtCannonfodder/Shivan20270.jpg)

(http://3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/14_year_war/LtCannonfodder/Shivan80481.jpg)

The animation is 1:35 long, 26Mb and uses DivX codec. There are minor errors here and there, but I hope you'll enjoy this :)

Big thanks to karajorma for providing hosting on his Swoosh account.

Download (http://swooh.com/peon/karajorma/Downloads/SM104.rar)
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Post by: kasperl on March 04, 2004, 11:41:28 am: swooh seems kinda down....

edit:

can't project members put things in FilePlanet?
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Post by: an0n on March 04, 2004, 12:10:22 pm: FilePlanet sucks more ass than Swooh.
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 04, 2004, 12:30:16 pm: Should work now. Opinions, please :)
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Post by: Fineus on March 04, 2004, 12:34:33 pm: Downloading :)

Edit:

Dude! Excellent stuff, I really like it. There are a few things it could do with (everything lacks any particular lighting... it'd be nice to see flashes of weapons on the hull of ships, that kind of thing) but other than that. Very nice!
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Post by: karajorma on March 04, 2004, 12:41:34 pm: Well as you can guess from the download location I've already seen this and it's pretty damn good :)

I've also included a little extra in the rar file if you really like it :)
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 04, 2004, 12:59:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
(everything lacks any particular lighting... it'd be nice to see flashes of weapons on the hull of ships, that kind of thing)

You know, I did consider adding light to the weapons, but I felt lazy and didn't bother to add a light to every single shot :p
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Post by: Fineus on March 04, 2004, 01:01:38 pm: Yeah, I can see how I'd reach the same conclusion in your position - but if you wanted to make a really neat job of it, go to town on the lighting / reflections on ships etc.
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Post by: kasperl on March 04, 2004, 01:05:12 pm: i don't have FS installed on my laptop, and my desktop is busy trying to update steam, so Kara, what kind of campaign is this? a hacked file forwarding you to the proper mission?

and i have some problems, both winamp 5 and WMP decide it is a audio file, and not video. winamp gives me no vid, and wmp gives a visualysation
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Post by: an0n on March 04, 2004, 01:09:41 pm: Run Windows Update or get a new version of WinAmp, foo'.
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Post by: kasperl on March 04, 2004, 01:14:51 pm: winamp 5.01 on my desktop gives me the audio, and a still frame of the video, and when i move the slider thingy it gives me another still frame, while playing the audio.

edit: and winamp eats 50 megs of RAM while attempting to play.
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 04, 2004, 01:17:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
winamp 5.01 on my desktop gives me the audio, and a still frame of the video, and when i move the slider thingy it gives me another still frame, while playing the audio.

edit: and winamp eats 50 megs of RAM while attempting to play.

You do have DivX installed, right?
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Post by: kasperl on March 04, 2004, 01:19:14 pm: yeah, wmp even downloaded a codec from the internet.

my desktop machine does play it, but the video lags behind the audio, the audio quality itself is terrible, and the image stutters about every 3 seconds, each stutter taking 0,5 seconds.
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 04, 2004, 01:23:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
yeah, wmp even downloaded a codec from the internet.

my desktop machine does play it, but the video lags behind the audio, the audio quality itself is terrible, and the image stutters about every 3 seconds, each stutter taking 0,5 seconds.

That sounds exactly like what was happening when I first tried to export the video from Premiere Pro. No matter what I did the video was always acting up like that. The only way I got around it was by using an older version of Premiere.
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Post by: Stealth[cro] on March 04, 2004, 01:46:40 pm: BSPlayer, Media Player Classic and the ffdshow-codec are your friends, people. Those three usually fix any DivX problems.
*saves link for later use*
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Post by: c914 on March 04, 2004, 01:56:12 pm: hmm its something wrog with download:
ive try 5 times downlod file but it stops ( file has ben downloaded ) to 40 -50 %:confused:
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Post by: Ashrak on March 04, 2004, 01:58:48 pm: good for freelance project

some pro nitpicks though

1. Trails are modeled not made with paricle effects dus they dont turn
2. ships move a bit slow
3. stuff dosent blow off ships

;)
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Post by: karajorma on March 04, 2004, 02:00:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
yeah, wmp even downloaded a codec from the internet.

Media player won't download Divx from the net. It will pretend to but it won't actually fix anything. You need to actually go to the Divx site and get Divx (5.05 is better than 5.11 from what I hear)

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Originally posted by kasperl
i don't have FS installed on my laptop, and my desktop is busy trying to update steam, so Kara, what kind of campaign is this? a hacked file forwarding you to the proper mission?

It's basically the standard FS2 campaign file but now if you play FS2_open (using a version with working video code) and have this animation in the Freespace2 folder it will play it before A Lion at the Door as if it was another cutscene :D

I was going to add The Lightning Marshal version of The Great Hunt too but I couldn't remember the name used for the avi (I renamed mine IIRC)
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Post by: kasperl on March 04, 2004, 02:10:56 pm: you might want to get all the permissions, and throw that into the media VP.

anyhow, i am giving up on this, now i'm concentrating on getting Steam or FS2 vanilla to work. I WANT A WORKING MULTIPLAYER GAME.
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Post by: Unknown Target on March 04, 2004, 03:22:22 pm: It's pretty good, but most of the fighteres move a bit too slow.
And what prog did you make it in? :)

Great job, though! :yes:
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Post by: Singh on March 04, 2004, 03:33:16 pm: I get a bad block at 82% extraction...must be a rotten download - will try again later.
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Post by: karajorma on March 04, 2004, 04:16:15 pm: Knowing CF it'll have been done in Lightwave :D
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Post by: an0n on March 04, 2004, 04:20:22 pm: Everyone getting ****ed-up decompressions: ONLY USE WINRAR TO EXTRACT IT!

**** like WinACE has old RAR decompression thingies and bones extractions.
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Post by: mikhael on March 04, 2004, 05:07:21 pm: the most recent version of WinRAR said the file was corrupt.
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Post by: karajorma on March 04, 2004, 05:19:19 pm: Worked fine for me using WinRAR. I did have a problem uploading the bugger (it just stuck at 100%) so I simply closed the FTP program and tested the archive by downloading it. I was able to play the movie fine so I really can't figure out what the problem is.
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Post by: jdjtcagle on March 04, 2004, 05:20:03 pm: Lt.Cannonfodder
My winrar free trail has expired could you create a link for a zip version, please?
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Post by: Nico on March 04, 2004, 05:31:35 pm: you foo, all of you. Use power archiver, it's by far the best archive prog out there, it deals with everything better than even proprietary progs.
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Post by: karajorma on March 04, 2004, 05:43:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Lt.Cannonfodder
My winrar free trail has expired could you create a link for a zip version, please?

That's odd. My trial ended about a year ago. I just click close to the requestor and carry on :) Have you got a recent version?
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Post by: jdjtcagle on March 04, 2004, 06:21:10 pm: ya, (nevermind then) I just expected it to be that because I get errors when I download it
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Post by: Lightspeed on March 04, 2004, 06:31:21 pm: Some suggestions:

1) Use the my new thruster effects, these old ones are crappy compared to them. (download link: check first link of my sig)

2) Have the size of the engine effects change, it looks too static.

3) speed up the action - everything seems soo slow :)

4) Add sound effects (thruster, engine sounds, etc etc)
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Post by: jdjtcagle on March 04, 2004, 06:33:30 pm: It workey now
definately take lightspeeds advice
but, otherwise cool:)
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Post by: Singh on March 04, 2004, 10:21:18 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Nico
you foo, all of you. Use power archiver, it's by far the best archive prog out there, it deals with everything better than even proprietary progs.

Link?
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 04, 2004, 10:32:06 pm: Bah, now you did it. I'll redo everything :D

Anyway, I'm off to make another version. I'll add lights to the weapons and try to make the thrusters better. I'm not sure about speeding up the action. The ships move pretty much at the same speed as in Fs2. I might do something about that, though.

And LS, there are engine sounds :D

Thanks for the feedback.
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Post by: Singh on March 04, 2004, 10:55:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Lt.Cannonfodder
Bah, now you did it. I'll redo everything :D

Anyway, I'm off to make another version. I'll add lights to the weapons and try to make the thrusters better. I'm not sure about speeding up the action. The ships move pretty much at the same speed as in Fs2. I might do something about that, though.

And LS, there are engine sounds :D

Thanks for the feedback.

Make em go faster by editing the .tbl files :)
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Post by: DragonClaw on March 04, 2004, 11:02:09 pm: http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/14_year_war/dragonclaw/part2highres.avi

I like stuff at that speed, though its very hard to make aesthetic animations like that :p

(btw, i was making a trailer for OtT before it was trashed, thats part of it)
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Post by: Carl on March 04, 2004, 11:19:30 pm: carl can't see it either.
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 04, 2004, 11:28:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Carl
carl can't see it either.

Carl should download ffdshow :p

DC, those fighters move waaayyyy too fast. Looks like someone has been abusing fast forward -button ;)
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Post by: Singh on March 06, 2004, 01:58:26 am: downloads only partially then calls it quits, saying download complete. anyone knows why this happens? is it a windows problem or ...?
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 06, 2004, 04:16:33 am: Quote
Originally posted by Singh
downloads only partially then calls it quits, saying download complete. anyone knows why this happens? is it a windows problem or ...?

The download worked here. Try using a download manager.
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Post by: Darkage on March 06, 2004, 04:24:38 am: The download worked prefectly for me no problems here.
Prety cool animamtion CF:D:yes:
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Post by: jdjtcagle on March 06, 2004, 09:08:24 am: It didn't work for me at first but then I right clicked Save-Target as and it worked
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Post by: jdjtcagle on March 06, 2004, 10:43:55 am: Now, what you need to do is try to remake all the deleted scenes from the FS1;)
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Post by: Singh on March 06, 2004, 10:54:59 am: nope, cant seem to download using aceFTP.
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Post by: Corsair on March 07, 2004, 03:08:37 pm: Right click save worked...clicking on the link didn't.

anyway, Lt.CF that was awesome. Kudos, job well done.

need more.....
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Post by: Bobboau on March 07, 2004, 04:29:32 pm: opened it fine,

that thing is great, only sudgestion would be to vary the fly by sounds a lot more than you did (the pitch) and to just generaly make the things move faster, also sound effects should be roughly twice as loud as they are, and specmap those things!

and the myrmadon weapon points are wrong
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Post by: karajorma on March 07, 2004, 05:34:55 pm: I knew that there was something I kept meaning to mention to CF :)
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Post by: Darkage on March 07, 2004, 06:06:55 pm: I am wondering why isn't the Aeoles returning fire? or atleast a few shots. It just sits there later in the animation.
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Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2004, 06:22:05 pm: Good God Swooh is slow as ****. I'll post in an hour when it finishes.
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Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2004, 06:41:56 pm: Ok.. Swooh is really ****. It keeps saying the download is finished, even though it isnt. First time I got 18 megs of it.. this time I got 700k...
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Post by: Hippo on March 07, 2004, 06:58:48 pm: wha? this was supposed to be a new thread... looks good though...
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Post by: Singh on March 07, 2004, 10:09:28 pm: saw this movie - great stuff.
Only suggestions I can mentioned have been mentioned already, except 1:

Keep the last bit with the Myrmidon going slow and the weapons passing by - it looks sorta Matrix style. Maybe speeding it up after it dodges the laser blast speed it up again? Space Matrix sounds kinda fun ;)
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 07, 2004, 10:53:53 pm: Wow, it's a file that doesn't download.

Inspiring.
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Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2004, 10:58:00 pm: Glad I'm not the only one...
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 07, 2004, 11:16:50 pm: Thanks for the feedback! :)

I'm working on the new version, but rendering takes time. In fact, it takes ages ;) I'll try to fix most of the things you've mentioned.

@Bobboau

The ships have specmaps :p LW just handles everything differently and DivX alway takes away certain details. I have improved the ships a bit in the next version, should be a bit better. And no, I don't care if the firing points of Myrmidon are incorrect (bloody nitpickers ;) )

@Singh

Space Matrix? You can be sure I didn't intend to do that :D

@Everyone with download problems

The download still works here, altough it's a bit slow (12kb/s). Could you suggest a better hosting then, because I'm not aware of any that I can use for free (26Mb is quite a big file, you know).
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Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2004, 11:20:55 pm: ask your MG or TVWP masters if they could upload it to 3dap for you......
Hell.. I could if I wasnt going to bed right now....
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Post by: karajorma on March 08, 2004, 04:43:45 am: Gamespy would complain if we uploaded to the site itself. I could try fileplanet I suppose. Except that I've not tried before and I'm scared :D
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Post by: Janos on March 08, 2004, 07:52:30 am: Hmmm. I get it at steady 50,2 kbps [yes, I have a crappy connection].

And Firefox seemed somewhat repulsive with it, so I tried rigth click -> save link as. And it works fine.

Edit: finished and watched.

A bit too slow-paced in my opinion. Needs more frantic Myrm/Mara action. Like the dogfights - missiles here and there, ships pouring dozens of shot everywhere, AAAf zapping ---

OK, I think I'll go to make these animations. But first I must learn it.
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Post by: Bobboau on March 08, 2004, 08:07:13 am: well the fire point thing is just distracting, given how we are all distrubed cult game finatics
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Post by: Thorn on March 08, 2004, 09:39:37 am: My only gripe is the lack of muzzle flashes..
I know theyre supposed to be lasers, but it just seems... dull without them...
What program?
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 08, 2004, 10:56:29 am: @Janos

I'm already making the anim more fast-paced and maybe add a few more things. If you'd know how much work making an anim takes, you wouldn't even start ;)

@Bobboau

Ok, ok. Tell me where firing points are and I'll fix it.

@Thorn

Hmmm... muzzle flashes. I'll have to think about those.

The anim is entirely rendered in Lightwave, put together in Adobe Premiere.
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Post by: Bobboau on March 08, 2004, 11:31:29 am: theres three of them on ether side of the cockpit, so look for a collum of 3 points near there.
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Post by: Thorn on March 08, 2004, 12:24:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Lt.Cannonfodder

The anim is entirely rendered in Lightwave, put together in Adobe Premiere.

Heh.. Get on ICQ or MSN if you have either.. maybe we could help each other out.. info is in my profile...
as for the firing points.. Bob is right... the "wingtips" are for missiles iirc
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Post by: Knight Templar on March 08, 2004, 12:54:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
FilePlanet sucks more ass than Swooh.

Woah, easy there an0n. Don't say things you can't take back now. That really isn't fair to FilePlanet.
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Post by: Xelion on March 14, 2004, 06:26:34 am: Swooh :hopping: . I've tried 4 different browsers and getright and it doesn't like it. The most I've got is just below 5 megs, I don't think swooh is very stable... for multiple user big file size downloads... :mad:
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Post by: Goober5000 on March 15, 2004, 09:16:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
I was going to add The Lightning Marshal version of The Great Hunt too but I couldn't remember the name used for the avi (I renamed mine IIRC)
Eh? I only remember two Lightning Marshall cutscenes... both in LM3.
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Post by: Knight Templar on March 15, 2004, 10:32:51 pm: It was going to be used, but we never got that far.
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Post by: Xelion on March 16, 2004, 12:09:45 am: Any chance of anyone hosting the file elsewhere or on fp?
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 16, 2004, 04:39:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by Xelion
Any chance of anyone hosting the file elsewhere or on fp?

I'd suggest you wait for the second version. I'm still working on it, but it's going to take more time due to school and some minor hardwire problems.
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Post by: Nico on March 16, 2004, 05:06:05 am: heh, I like swooh. it's free and I have almost unlimited room there :p
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Post by: Goober5000 on March 16, 2004, 08:28:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
It was going to be used, but we never got that far.
How did karajorma see it then? Any plans to release it?
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Post by: karajorma on March 16, 2004, 07:01:12 pm: An early version was released (which for some reason had persuses flying about instead of herc IIs) on this forum. I have a habit of squirrelling away anything FS2 related tht I download :D
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Post by: Goober5000 on March 17, 2004, 11:02:05 am: Can you upload it when Swooh comes back? :)
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Post by: karajorma on March 17, 2004, 12:52:18 pm: If Stunaep is agreeable and doesn't have a copy himself any more :D