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Title: What old games are worth buying
Post by: IPAndrews on March 06, 2004, 04:00:39 pm: I have an old system (PII 500 + GF2 MX) and it seems that many of the games that were written when this was an average system have started to hit the UK stores as budget titles. By budget I mean 5ukp & 4ukp a shot. I'd like to know which of these are worth buying? Should I for instance be picking up the likes of Homeworld and Star Trek Armada? What are the best budget titles out there at the moment?
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Post by: ChronoReverse on March 06, 2004, 04:09:43 pm: Total Annihilation. The full set.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 06, 2004, 04:15:21 pm: Sam & Max (very old, granted - but genius). A Worms game.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 06, 2004, 04:17:49 pm: Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos and Baldur's Gate.
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Post by: Havock on March 06, 2004, 04:26:21 pm: take a look i'd say, lotsa choice there, just do some surfing, check marks and don't be afraid to try something new.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 06, 2004, 04:38:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by ChronoReverse
Total Annihilation. The full set.

:nod:

Tachyon
Any pre-Renegade C&C game
HardWar
Title: What old games are worth buying
Post by: SadisticSid on March 06, 2004, 04:41:48 pm: There's loads that I'd recommend, but most of them are all DOS-based and I haven't seen a DOS game in UK stores for years.

You might want to try

System Shock 2
Definitely TA, as ChronoReverse suggested (still the best RTS today)
The Baldur's Gate series if you're a RPG fan
TIE Fighter (not sure if you can get this outside a collectors pack)
Master of Orion
Fallout 1 and 2
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Post by: karajorma on March 06, 2004, 04:49:28 pm: Hostile Waters. There's even a thread about it hereabouts :)
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 06, 2004, 04:51:15 pm: Sudden Strike
Klingon Academy
Starcraft
Quake?
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Post by: ChronoReverse on March 06, 2004, 05:15:34 pm: Oh yes here's a really old one that I love and hate: X-Com (and X-Com2 Terror from the Deep)
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Post by: Martinus on March 06, 2004, 05:18:41 pm: [color=66ff00]Homeworld is possibly the most beautiful gaming experience I've ever had. Well worth getting IMHO. :nod:

Got hostile waters the other day too as well as Shogun total war, delta force 2 and I-war 2. Goth them all for 11 quid which is pretty darn cheap if I do say so myself. :)
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Post by: Liberator on March 06, 2004, 05:22:12 pm: Planescape: Torment
ANY C&C up to and including Renegade, which is a blast online.
Diablo
ST:V Elite Force
Homeworld
HW: Cataclysm
Dark Reign Series
Quake Series
Unreal & UT

Make sure you patch Torment, there's a nasty slowdown bug that shows up randomly.
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Post by: Lynx on March 06, 2004, 05:59:27 pm: Thief: The Dark Project
Thief II: The Metal Age
Wing Commander: Prophecy
No One lives forever
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Post by: Ghostavo on March 06, 2004, 06:11:45 pm: Arkanoid :nervous:

Ok now seriously... for that system... I'd say StarCraft and BW (it isn't a PC if it hasn't got these two) and maybe Neverwinter...

PS:
I thought PII were only up to 450MHz...
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Post by: Rictor on March 06, 2004, 06:13:25 pm: Monkey Island 3
Worms
Deus Ex
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Post by: Ace on March 06, 2004, 06:19:34 pm: Planescape: Torment
Master of Orion 1 or 2
Thief 1 or 2
Deus Ex 1
Homeworld
X-Com
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Post by: Drew on March 06, 2004, 06:40:05 pm: sim city 3000 :D
hehe
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Post by: Hunter on March 06, 2004, 06:45:57 pm: Descent 3 (or earlier)
Warzone 2100
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 06, 2004, 06:48:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
PS:
I thought PII were only up to 450MHz...
They are. Probably forgot the third I. P1/MMX up to 233, P2 to 450, P3 to 1.13, P4 from there on.
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Post by: Stealth on March 06, 2004, 06:55:21 pm: If you can get it to run, then "Descent 3". i only started playing it (actually PLAYING it...) about 2-3 weeks ago, and it's awesome!
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Post by: redsniper on March 06, 2004, 10:19:51 pm: Hmm... Half-Life?
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Post by: Drew on March 06, 2004, 10:36:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by redsniper
Half-Life?

blows
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Post by: Liberator on March 06, 2004, 11:09:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Drew
sim city 3000

2000 is better and cheaper and easier.;)
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Post by: Corhellion on March 07, 2004, 12:59:09 am: Quote
Drew quote:

blows

BLASPHEMY!!!

*Takes out Pulse Rifle and obliterates Drews torse*

back on topic:

I'd go with:

Shogo: M.A.D.
Diablo
Duke Nukem 3D(Get the Starship Troopers Total Conversion!)
StarFleet Command 1 or 3 (heck get both! That's what I have)
Homeworld or HW: C
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Post by: Turnsky on March 07, 2004, 01:12:46 am: ONI,
Imperium Galactica 2
KOTOR (wait, that's not new.. :nervous: )
Arcanum
Aliens Vs Predator 1, 2
System shock 2
Title: What old games are worth buying
Post by: Sandwich on March 07, 2004, 01:13:47 am: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Got hostile waters the other day too...
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Hoo boy, see you in a week when you finally tear yourself away from the computer. ;)
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Post by: Turnsky on March 07, 2004, 01:15:39 am: yah, hostile waters is another worthy game..
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 07, 2004, 06:10:26 am: Gah! I hate Hostile Waters! I was supposed to be getting a bloody paper done but it's always "no, just one more level", and then to add insult to injury every goddamn scene in it's better-looking than any goddamn render I've ever done... I swear, soon as I finish this game... and maybe Anachronox... I'm gonna take up something more healthy, like heroin.
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Post by: an0n on March 07, 2004, 06:17:13 am: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Homeworld is possibly the most beautiful gaming experience I've ever had. Well worth getting IMHO. :nod:[/color]
Even now, after all these years, whenever I hear the main theme thingy I get the almost uncontrolable urge to drop to my knees, throw my arms to heavens and scream "KHARAAAAKKKK!!!!".

*wells up*
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Post by: Hunter on March 07, 2004, 06:58:39 am: Cool Stealth, what's your alias - We should play :)
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Post by: Martinus on March 07, 2004, 07:03:44 am: [color=66ff00]Unfortunately my friend borrowed me his copy of Zelda:Ocarina of time so I might not get to play hostile waters for a while. :)
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 07, 2004, 07:06:29 am: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Unfortunately my friend borrowed me his copy of Zelda:Ocarina of time so I might not get to play hostile waters for a while. :)
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you must be gutted ;)
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Post by: Martinus on March 07, 2004, 07:23:18 am: [color=66ff00]aldo mate, currently I'm in possession of a dreamcast, a SNES, 3 NES'es a PS2 and a N64.
I also bought a crapload of great games for the PC.

My life is hell. ;)
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Post by: Turnsky on March 07, 2004, 08:36:17 am: if you can find it, Giants: Citizen Kabuto.. if not for the gameplay, get it for the oddball cutscenes...

"Kabuto?.. What the **** is a Kabuto?..."

GRAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

"oh...****"
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Post by: karajorma on March 07, 2004, 09:27:58 am: Hmmm. I got that game free with my sound card but what with one thing and another I never got round to trying it :)
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Post by: Stealth on March 07, 2004, 01:10:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Hunt Smacker
Cool Stealth, what's your alias - We should play :)

well actually i haven't played any multiplayer :(... it's only been single-player so far (i haven't finished the main campaign yet LOL) but i've patched the game and i've gotten multiplayer working (i've sat in the lobby a few times :) ) so yeah man, do you have AIM? ICQ? MSN? we'll hit up a few games :D
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Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2004, 01:46:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky
if you can find it, Giants: Citizen Kabuto.. if not for the gameplay, get it for the oddball cutscenes...

"Kabuto?.. What the **** is a Kabuto?..."

GRAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

"oh...****"

"She said 'You must run screming into traffic clutching your testicles'... wait! No! Xan is wrong!"
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Post by: 01010 on March 07, 2004, 02:04:27 pm: Giants was awesome.
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Post by: Blaise Russel on March 07, 2004, 02:06:45 pm: Anachronox kerpwnzors.

"I shall kill you... with DEATH!"

Classic.

Get it now.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 07, 2004, 02:08:53 pm: Incoming

That is all
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Post by: Fineus on March 07, 2004, 02:17:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Incoming

That is all

Well said! I passed away many a long hour with my old Voodoo2 and that game ;)
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Post by: Gank on March 07, 2004, 02:33:40 pm: Get System Shock 2, its free:
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3924
Lots of other quality stuff on there too if you look around.
Including incoming:
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4343
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 07, 2004, 02:39:26 pm: You're on tenuous ground there, iirc.

I can't remember if the admins here like HOTU being posted or not.
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Post by: an0n on March 07, 2004, 02:44:28 pm: Well they whore it out often enough when people come looking for copies of FS2.
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Post by: Fineus on March 07, 2004, 02:53:30 pm: Meh, is it legal?
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Post by: kasperl on March 07, 2004, 02:53:59 pm: according to HOTU it is.
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Post by: an0n on March 07, 2004, 02:54:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Thundypants:
Meh, is it legal?

Is under-age drinking?
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Post by: Fineus on March 07, 2004, 03:04:47 pm: Why is it I can never get a straight answer :P Are 3DAP likely to mind people linking to it from any of their host sites? That's the whole reasoning behind our stance on piracy of software. Personally speaking I don't mind at all.
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Post by: an0n on March 07, 2004, 03:38:18 pm: We don't give you a straight answer because doing so is somewhat detrimental to our own interests.

And We'll take that as a green light.

*starts selling pirated copies of Freelancer from within the closed Hosted forums*
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Post by: Fineus on March 07, 2004, 03:44:49 pm: You have a forum of your own to tout your illegal software on, there's no need to use ours. I thought it was made clear before that a certain standard has to be kept up so as not to piss off our own hosts?
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Post by: an0n on March 07, 2004, 03:48:05 pm: You realise the irony, I hope.

And what fun would it be doing it from NW?

It'd be like target practice with laser-guided bullets. No risk, no skill, no fun.
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Post by: Fineus on March 07, 2004, 03:57:26 pm: And no making more work for the admins here either :p

Look, shall we drag this back on topic now? If you want to discuss this stuff then PM me.
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Post by: Martinus on March 07, 2004, 05:05:20 pm: [color=66ff00]Did I mention that my copy of hostile waters was 99p and it was brand new?
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 07, 2004, 05:06:26 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Unfortunately my friend borrowed me his copy of Zelda:Ocarina of time so I might not get to play hostile waters for a while. :)
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Did I menation that my copy of hostile waters was 99p and it was brand new?
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Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]aldo mate, currently I'm in possession of a dreamcast, a SNES, 3 NES'es a PS2 and a N64.
I also bought a crapload of great games for the PC.

My life is hell. ;)
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I hate you.
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Post by: Martinus on March 07, 2004, 05:08:38 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
I hate you.

[color=66ff00]Want to come 'round to mine for a bit of gaming? You should see my computer. ;)
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Post by: Liberator on March 07, 2004, 06:39:25 pm: *looks at weak, pathetic Athlon 1800+*

SHUT UP YOU!;)
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Post by: mikhael on March 07, 2004, 06:46:08 pm: An Athlon 1800 isn't pathetic. I still use an Athlon 1gHz. These days your CPU isn't limiting you, its the video card.
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Post by: Ghostavo on March 07, 2004, 06:48:11 pm: Quote
An Athlon 1800 isn't pathetic. I still use an Athlon 1gHz. These days your CPU isn't limiting you, its the video card.

:wtf:
You're joking right?
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 07, 2004, 06:56:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo

:wtf:
You're joking right?

He ain't. Biggest demand in games tends to be the graphics nowadays - and that's primarily dependent on the card.
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Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2004, 07:08:26 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael
An Athlon 1800 isn't pathetic. I still use an Athlon 1gHz. These days your CPU isn't limiting you, its the video card.

Seconded. My P4 1.4 1.0 GB DDR RAM would run X^2 fine if my video card wasnt a piece of ****.
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Post by: Fineus on March 07, 2004, 07:10:57 pm: These guys have a point - they aren't calling them GPUs for no reason... most games offload all the graphical workload to the graphics card, leaving the CPU to load stuff, run AI and what have you. Unfortunately the greatest of the graphics cards are still kinda expensive for college students ;)
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Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2004, 07:14:04 pm: My Mobo, processor and RAM together cost less than a Radeon 9800 Pro.....
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Post by: Corsair on March 07, 2004, 07:32:13 pm: Anyway........................

StarCraft & Brood War
Age of Empires (the original)
FreeSpace 2 (not really that old but...)
Rogue Squadron
Call to Power 2
Madden 98 ;)
Flight Unlimited (before they went under to MSFlight Simulator)

couple others that I can't remember right now...
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Post by: Stealth on March 07, 2004, 10:30:41 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Corsair
StarCraft & Brood War

shooooot yeah!
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Post by: Sandwich on March 08, 2004, 12:11:03 am: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael
These days your CPU isn't limiting you, its the video card.

*hides P3-600*

I can't even run C&C Generals! "Your computer is too slow for this game. Upgrade already, Scrooge!"
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Post by: Liberator on March 08, 2004, 12:25:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael
An Athlon 1800 isn't pathetic. I still use an Athlon 1gHz. These days your CPU isn't limiting you, its the video card.

*glances at Geforce 4 MX 420*
*laughs hollowly*
*slinks off to cry*
:shaking:
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Post by: kasperl on March 08, 2004, 02:33:55 am: the mobo is a major factor too.

*glances at POS ?Mobo that can't run anything better then a Radeon 7000 *
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Post by: an0n on March 08, 2004, 05:19:58 am: KHARAAAAKKKK!!!!!!!!
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Post by: karajorma on March 08, 2004, 06:43:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
KHARAAAAKKKK!!!!!!!!

Temptation finally got to you eh? :)
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Post by: Martinus on March 08, 2004, 12:42:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator

*glances at Geforce 4 MX 420*
*laughs hollowly*
*slinks off to cry*
:shaking:

[color=66ff00]I got a radeon 9800 pro 128... sorry. :nervous:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 08, 2004, 12:43:14 pm: Bet you paid for it, as well.

*gloats*
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Post by: Liberator on March 08, 2004, 01:09:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]I got a radeon 9800 pro 128... sorry. :nervous:
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Yes, and we all know about the Athlon 64 too.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on March 08, 2004, 03:48:38 pm: This week, I are been mostly buying Terry Pratchett's Discworld Noir, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, and something calling itself Mist, in a three for ten squids offer :nod:
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Post by: Martinus on March 08, 2004, 04:36:01 pm: [color=66ff00]Actually I've only got a 2500XP Liberator. *shrugs*
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Post by: Stealth on March 08, 2004, 04:42:22 pm: actually it's the cores that make a difference, so don't feel bad :D
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Post by: magatsu1 on March 08, 2004, 04:51:03 pm: Clive Barker's Undying, Gunman Chronicles and Soldier of Fortune.
Not sure about the required specs on them though.
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Post by: Liberator on March 08, 2004, 05:15:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Actually I've only got a 2500XP Liberator. *shrugs*
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Could've sworn someone said you had an A64

@Stealth
Empty your PMs
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Post by: Martinus on March 08, 2004, 05:17:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator

Could've sworn someone said you had an A64

@Stealth
Empty your PMs

[color=66ff00]I don't think they're a prudent purchase at the moment, especially considering that I only really want a rig for games, movies and the web.

Greywolf knows a lot about A64's maybe it is he that has one?
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Post by: ChronoReverse on March 08, 2004, 05:26:31 pm: Actually, if you're willing to shell out for any processor above P4 2.8C (which is the highest I'd go atm if I had money, until the 939 pin A64 comes out that is), then the A64's start to look pretty good. Especially the A64 3000+ which is pretty much a steal considering it's cost.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 08, 2004, 05:34:35 pm: I'd wait for a dedicated 64-bit O/S - and enough market penetration to guarentee complete support (a question of 'when' rather than 'if)
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Post by: ChronoReverse on March 08, 2004, 06:11:10 pm: And why would you need to do that? The A64 3000+ is both cheaper and performs better at games than the P3 3.0C in normal 32bit windows.

I've already stated I'd prefer to get a 2.8C or 2.6C but if you're willing to shell out for a P4 3.2C, then a A64 3000+ would be a better choice.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 08, 2004, 06:21:16 pm: Quote
Originally posted by ChronoReverse
And why would you need to do that? The A64 3000+ is both cheaper and performs better at games than the P3 3.0C in normal 32bit windows.

I've already stated I'd prefer to get a 2.8C or 2.6C but if you're willing to shell out for a P4 3.2C, then a A64 3000+ would be a better choice.

I don't see any point in paying over the odds for a processor whose performance is still hampered by software standards. It's like buying a 3d card designed for 8x AGP and slapping it on 4x AGP - sure, it's still better... not the difference that there should be.

By the time 64 bit becomes suitably supported, these chips will have gone down in price - and you'll still get improved performance compared to an 32-bit Os.

Personally, I wouldn't touch any Intel chips with a 10-foot clown pole, though. .. and it's a moot point - I'm not touching this Pc till at least the end of the year, when I may spare cash floating about (fingers crossed)
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Post by: Hunter on March 08, 2004, 06:34:09 pm: edited
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Post by: Andreas on March 09, 2004, 12:10:12 am: Well, I'd recommend to try these out:

-Deus Ex
-System Shock 2
-Interstate '76
-Frederick Pohl's Gateway (freeware)