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Title: Dirty harry just pissed himself
Post by: Turnsky on March 12, 2004, 10:26:29 pm
(http://popularmechanics.com/outdoors/firearms/2003/2/2003_shot_show/images/tb_lg_SAndW500c.jpg)

that's a .50 cal revolver

http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293613&item=831458&sw_activeTab=1
Title: Re: Dirty harry just pissed himself
Post by: Zuljin on March 12, 2004, 10:31:06 pm
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Originally posted by Turnsky
(http://popularmechanics.com/outdoors/firearms/2003/2/2003_shot_show/images/tb_lg_SAndW500c.jpg)

that's a .50 cal revolver

http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293613&item=831458&sw_activeTab=1


oh my.. :eek2: :lol:
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Post by: Carl on March 12, 2004, 10:35:34 pm
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

you'd break your hand using that thing.
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Post by: phreak on March 12, 2004, 10:37:56 pm
screw tin cans. wheres some 1" thick sheet metal i can shoot?
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Post by: neo_hermes on March 12, 2004, 10:42:06 pm
DUDE!!!
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Post by: DragonClaw on March 12, 2004, 10:45:20 pm
*revolver rusts from drool*
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Post by: an0n on March 12, 2004, 10:45:44 pm
Now THAT's a hand-cannon.
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Post by: Rictor on March 12, 2004, 11:31:37 pm
Awesome. The King of England won't be bothering me anymore...
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Post by: Liberator on March 12, 2004, 11:46:40 pm
NICE!!!  U84R NICE!!!!!!1111111
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Post by: Corhellion on March 13, 2004, 12:14:37 am
Cool...one step closer to the GunBlade!
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Post by: Bri_Dog on March 13, 2004, 12:21:39 am
I want one!
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Post by: mikhael on March 13, 2004, 01:21:10 am
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Originally posted by Corhellion
Cool...one step closer to the GunBlade!


Dude, we've already done Gunblades. They were built in the 17th and 18th centuries. They were discarded because the were prone to damage to the barrel which would cause jams and explosions. Today, we have better alloys, but te gunblade would be even more useless than it was back then--unless you're the sort of fanboy freak that likes owning 'real' versions of things found in video games (like that guy that commissioned a Master Sword from the Zelda series).
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Post by: Knight Templar on March 13, 2004, 02:19:59 am
I want a master sword!
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 13, 2004, 02:22:24 am
If only it fired rifle rounds...
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Post by: Fineus on March 13, 2004, 03:54:11 am
I don't like it. It's not a high-yield particle cannon.
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Post by: Gortef on March 13, 2004, 05:45:15 am
Cool :nod:
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Post by: Singh on March 13, 2004, 05:50:17 am
ub333r

f33r 1t
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Post by: Setekh on March 13, 2004, 06:05:49 am
"This is the Series 4 De-Atomizer, capable of searing intergalactic flesh, destroying illegal alien bugs and taking down hostile space warships.

...You get the Noisy Cricket."
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on March 13, 2004, 06:41:05 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
"This is the Series 4 De-Atomizer, capable of searing intergalactic flesh, destroying illegal alien bugs and taking down hostile space warships.

...You get the Noisy Cricket."

The "Noisy Cricket" was cool! :D
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 08:45:50 am
...Neh, that's just silly. You want a ridiculously overpowered pistol, you go for something you could still probably hit with.

(http://www.serbu.com/sus3s.jpg)
http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

Then you get some of those magnesium 12-gauge shells...
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Post by: Admiral LSD on March 13, 2004, 10:12:54 am
Is he trying to compensate for something or what?
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Post by: Zuljin on March 13, 2004, 10:13:14 am
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Originally posted by Corhellion
Cool...one step closer to the GunBlade!


closer to GunCLUB if you ask me..
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Post by: kasperl on March 13, 2004, 10:14:26 am
what does that gauge number mean? size of the shells?
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 10:29:19 am
Yes. Higher gauge, smaller shell. Anything below ten is pretty rare.
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Post by: T-Man on March 13, 2004, 10:39:28 am
Revolver!!! Dude, that things a bloody anti-tank rifle!
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Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2004, 11:45:41 am
How dead do you want someone?
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 11:49:49 am
Well, this way you don't have to worry about inconvenient things like body armor.

And 12-ga. flare rounds are just cool all around, even if they are excessive and probably eat away at the barrel. Shotgun flamethrower! C'mon, you can't get any cooler than that with only one barrel!
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Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2004, 12:52:34 pm
LOL 'For when you absolutely positively want to kill every mo' f*cker in the room' ;)

Wish I could remember what film that was from :(
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Post by: kasperl on March 13, 2004, 01:04:21 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Well, this way you don't have to worry about inconvenient things like body armor.

And 12-ga. flare rounds are just cool all around, even if they are excessive and probably eat away at the barrel. Shotgun flamethrower! C'mon, you can't get any cooler than that with only one barrel!


Normally, a shotgun just shoots a lot of tiny pieces of metal, right?

what would be more effective, standard rounds or flares?

and dude, i wish Holland had a gun law that allowed you to carry that.

wait, i don't want that. I can't afford that thing, and the criminals are better when they just have knifes.
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Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2004, 01:08:12 pm
LOL They'd be easier to spot though, just look for someone looking shifty and who walks leaning slightly to one side because of the weight of the damn the damn thing in his pocket ;)
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 01:21:12 pm
Magnesium flare, several thousand degrees heat, effective range of several yards. Yeah, I'd say that's a bit more destructive than buckshot. ;)

The page I know had 'em seems to have dissapeared recently, but I'm sure there are others.
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Post by: kasperl on March 13, 2004, 01:23:59 pm
now, if only you'd not go to prison for having one of those without a permit over here.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on March 13, 2004, 01:39:00 pm
*hides his crude flamethrower made from an airbrush*
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 01:41:43 pm
It's just ammunition, I'm reasonably sure weapons laws only cover the weapons themselves.
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Post by: kasperl on March 13, 2004, 01:44:34 pm
but what use is having the ammo without the gun?

you can only own a gun out here if you're either a hunter with special permit, or you're a member of a shooting range for at least a year, your 18 years old, and both the local police and the gun club say you're fit to own a weapon. And even then you're limited to pretty simple guns, IIRC.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 01:46:59 pm
...Yuck. No wonder you Europeans get invaded by each other so easily.
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Post by: kasperl on March 13, 2004, 01:51:15 pm
uh?

last time we've gotten invaded was over fifty years ago.


and the bright side is that gun crimes are fairly rare. The only example i can think of now are some rather infrequent mob hits, robbery's with mock up guns, and one time where a kid shot is vice principal.
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Post by: Martinus on March 13, 2004, 01:58:05 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
LOL 'For when you absolutely positively want to kill every mo' f*cker in the room' ;)

Wish I could remember what film that was from :(

[color=66ff00]..accept no substitutes.

Jackie Brown.
[/color]
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 02:18:43 pm
Come to think of it, actually, hunting licenses are required in most of the US for gun ownership, too. The "pretty simple weapons" bit is iffy, though- the federal government pretty literally goes all Big Brother on you if you get a Class 3 firearm (machine gun, minigun, etc.), but you can still technically get 'em.
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Post by: TrashMan on March 13, 2004, 02:18:58 pm
Bah...I'll rather take an Automag V any day....
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Post by: Ghostavo on March 13, 2004, 02:24:04 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
...Yuck. No wonder you Europeans get invaded by each other so easily.


...Yuck. No wonder crime rates are way higher in the states than in Europe. :D
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Post by: kasperl on March 13, 2004, 02:25:20 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Come to think of it, actually, hunting licenses are required in most of the US for gun ownership, too. The "pretty simple weapons" bit is iffy, though- the federal government pretty literally goes all Big Brother on you if you get a Class 3 firearm (machine gun, minigun, etc.), but you can still technically get 'em.


IIRC anything that can fire full auto or bursts is illegal, not sure really. the bottom line is simple, nearly no one has any fire arm, and nobody has anything that compares to military hardware.
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Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2004, 02:26:09 pm
Actually, it's pretty easy to get an airgun license in the UK, and those can be ramped up to be almost as powerful as a gunpowder side-arm, but much more quiet....

allegedly.....

:nervous:
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Post by: kasperl on March 13, 2004, 02:28:15 pm
airguns are illegal here too, IIRC.

and anything that looks too much like a real gun would require a license as well.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 02:29:22 pm
Ghost: I think that'd have more to do with people here being ****ed up. Hell, down south the gun laws are supposed to be much more stringent, but it's there you see the cartels with their own damn armies better equipped than the legitimate ones and stuff.
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Post by: Ghostavo on March 13, 2004, 02:35:24 pm
Well... if America had a land connection to Europe, you would have been invaded 50 years ago. (not saying you would have lost, just saying you would have been invaded... like Russia) Europe has lot of small countries (and it is a continent might I add) so invasions were a common thing to have.

So, we're even!! :p :D

So... when is the phaser coming out? :nervous:
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Post by: diamondgeezer on March 13, 2004, 02:39:28 pm
I dabbled with air gunsa bit a few years ago, back when I could afford it. A hunting rifle needs no licence up to 12 foot-pounds of power, after which you need a full firearms licence. Overpressurising an air rifle is possible (spread some lube oil over the cylinder hole thingumy and the oil ignites when the air is discharged, massively upping the pressure but knackering the rifle after a very short time - NOT recomended).

Currently in this country even air pistols are being viewed with intense suspicion after the spate of incidents in which an air pistol convertd to a 'real' gun was used. See my own air pistols use compressed gas cans and the like, but a Brocock revolver is basically an actual revolver mechanism which fires pellets instead of bullets, with compressed air instead of gun powder. Bit of a jiggy with the barrel and you can load the real deal in it. Tis a popular method among the 'gangstas' these days :nod: Course most people don't appreciate that only this one kind of gun can be converted, and want to ban even relatively harmless pieces of kit like mine (boo)

Here endeth DG's spewing of random facts
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Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2004, 02:57:44 pm
Yup, that's the danger, and a lot of people also don't realise the danger inherent in converting a gun back to it's original role, especially if it's been used as an airgun for a while. Some models have had the barrel flanged slightly, or have been re-rifled, and those ones are about as likely to kill the shooter as much as the shootee if converted back. This is not necessarily a bad practice ;)
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Post by: pyro-manic on March 13, 2004, 05:21:42 pm
Meh. Guns are crap. No skill....
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Post by: Sandwich on March 13, 2004, 06:52:05 pm
I'd rather have the 0.5 cal Desert Eagle. Which, as a matter of fact, I might actually get one of these days. If I get a pistol it's gonna be a Desert Eagle of some kind - unless they're completely uncomfortable in my hand.
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Post by: Turnsky on March 13, 2004, 06:59:50 pm
you behemoth you :p
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 13, 2004, 07:01:23 pm
...Why? Those things are so silly-looking... if you want a huge gun, yeah, that's understandable, but make sure it actually does something. An oversized pistol just defeats the purpose, and I hear they're bloody inaccurate too...

SOCOMs are better, anyway. H&K is like the Jesus of things that go "bang".
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Post by: Sandwich on March 14, 2004, 01:19:29 am
Yeah, ugly and inaccurate. Yuck.

(http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/desert_eagle/de_044_2.jpg)
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Post by: Gortef on March 14, 2004, 04:25:19 am
(http://personal.inet.fi/koti/rmalinen/gortef/biohassu1.jpg)

;7
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Post by: Setekh on March 14, 2004, 04:29:29 am
Gortef... buddy... ;)

Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne
The "Noisy Cricket" was cool! :D


:D "Here, Kay, it's your favourite weapon. The Noisy Cricket."
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Post by: Turnsky on March 14, 2004, 04:43:44 am
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
...Why? Those things are so silly-looking... if you want a huge gun, yeah, that's understandable, but make sure it actually does something. An oversized pistol just defeats the purpose, and I hear they're bloody inaccurate too...

SOCOMs are better, anyway. H&K is like the Jesus of things that go "bang".


then who's the god of things that go "bang" then? :p
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Post by: T-Man on March 14, 2004, 04:50:45 am
Oooooooh Resident evil (Biohazard) weapons...

Do they do the rocket launchers? :drevil:
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Post by: TrashMan on March 14, 2004, 03:09:19 pm
(http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/AMT%20Automag%20V.jpg)

2100kJ of impact energy (compared to Deser Eagles 1200)

Characteristics:
Gauge: 50 Action Express train
Capacity of the charger: 7 blows
Weight: 1305 grams
Length: 273 mm
Height: 133 mm
Length of the gun: 165 mm  
Identification:
It is the version gauges 50, profile identical that for the preceding model. The weapon is out of chrome steel, with the plates of bakelite stick. With before gun, one finds a test card round. With the back on the superior part, one finds a rise adjustable. Just above the stick, one finds a series of scratches inclined forwards, the and right one behind the lever of safety, which is placed vertically at the scratches of the cylinder head. The trigger guard is of form rectangular, with the lower part than before which is of round form. The relaxation is placed at the back and form only one part with the weapon. The plates of stick are striated horizontally and fixed by two screws, a in-top and other below
 

(http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Amerique_du_nord/Etats_Unis/Armes/Automag/revolver_2.jpg)
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Post by: Taristin on March 14, 2004, 04:09:19 pm
My dad had one of these, until he learned that just the reciever alone would get you 10 years in jail...

(http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/weapons-german-ww2/sturmgewhr-stg44.jpg)

He showed it to my grandfather, who, in proper fashion, sh*t a brick, and then sold it for $1000.  It's worth 25, but he didn't want to get caught.
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Post by: Sandwich on March 14, 2004, 04:12:13 pm
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Originally posted by TrashMan
Identification:
It is the version gauges 50, profile identical that for the preceding model. The weapon is out of chrome steel, with the plates of bakelite stick. With before gun, one finds a test card round. With the back on the superior part, one finds a rise adjustable. Just above the stick, one finds a series of scratches inclined forwards, the and right one behind the lever of safety, which is placed vertically at the scratches of the cylinder head. The trigger guard is of form rectangular, with the lower part than before which is of round form. The relaxation is placed at the back and form only one part with the weapon. The plates of stick are striated horizontally and fixed by two screws, a in-top and other below


:wtf: Do you have that in non-Engrish?
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Post by: Fineus on March 14, 2004, 04:16:49 pm
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
My dad had one of these, until he learned that just the reciever alone would get you 10 years in jail...

He showed it to my grandfather, who, in proper fashion, sh*t a brick, and then sold it for $1000.  It's worth 25, but he didn't want to get caught.

Darn, how did he come to be in posession of one? I mean assuming it was in good condition it would be worth a hell of a lot - historians and what have you collect that kind of thing, even if it's deactivated.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 14, 2004, 04:29:33 pm
What, this is like the random gun show now?

Whatever.

My baby... Nother hundred and I'm gettin' one of these. (http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=15652905) Supposed to fix all the accuracy problems of the original without losing the nice little "basically never jams" bit. AND with a bit of futzing it'll go full auto. Whee!


Sandwich, the whole point of a pistol is it's supposed to be compact and portable. Y'know, lightweight, snub nose, fits in your hand right, reasonable recoil. And cheap. A Desert Eagle is none of these. It's a pistol that wants to be a rifle, but lacks the best virtues of either. Yeah, they're huge. Yeah, they look funky. But you know what? I could make a big scary gun in my woodshed that shot goddamn concrete-filled grapefruit cans for ammo. It wouldn't make it something worth paying for.

If you really want to go for the Freudian thing, like I said, just get a 14" shotgun (or whatever the legal limit is in Israel, if there is one), they're cheaper and better weapons, and make a much louder "bang" to boot.
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Post by: Taristin on March 14, 2004, 04:44:53 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth

Darn, how did he come to be in posession of one? I mean assuming it was in good condition it would be worth a hell of a lot - historians and what have you collect that kind of thing, even if it's deactivated.


He bought it from a ww2 vet at a garage sale. :D Gotta love GI bringbacks.


Oh yeah, my dad's a ww2 collector/dealer, so I've seen almost everything at one time or another. He also fancies the Japanese swords, and has a couple from high point makers.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 14, 2004, 05:04:55 pm
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h


He bought it from a ww2 vet at a garage sale. :D Gotta love GI bringbacks.


Oh yeah, my dad's a ww2 collector/dealer, so I've seen almost everything at one time or another. He also fancies the Japanese swords, and has a couple from high point makers.


What is it?  An mp44?
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Post by: TrashMan on March 15, 2004, 03:02:37 am
@Sandwhich - Not my falut...The site was French and they didn't translate very well... regardless, the Automag V rulez!
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Post by: phreak on March 15, 2004, 10:47:03 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


What is it?  An mp44?


yes
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Post by: J3Vr6 on March 15, 2004, 11:15:54 am
Yeah a gun that big would be pointless.  Too big, too heavy, the recoil would be sick.  You'd get one shot off and probably be dead before you could fire another.