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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 07:27:51 am

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 07:27:51 am

I am thinking about buying a DVD burner, what are the do's and don't's? currently, my PC is set up like this

IDE1:
20GB 7200RPM Master (OS's and Swap files)
40GB 4800RPM Slave (MP3's, software, crap)
IDE2:
DVD player
CD Burner

I have about 120 Euro's max to spend, and i want something that can burn both + and - R, RW DVD and CD, all in 8 and 12 centimeter formats. Linux driver suppport is certainly a plus.


What i want to know is:
What brands to avoid.
Which drive should i remove? (i have only 2 external bays)
Does a higher price means a higher quality?

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Odyssey on March 14, 2004, 07:31:41 am

[color=cc9900]You ought to get rid of the CD burner, imho.

That way you'd have one device capable of reading CD's and DVD's, and one drive capable of reading and writing both formats. Makes copying easier.[/color]

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Flipside on March 14, 2004, 07:33:07 am

Well, I'd say partition off you 40 Gig drive and remove the 20 Gig certainly. As for DVD Burners, higher price can often mean higher flexibility, Disney has really made a complete Dog's arse of things with the regioning of DVD and some recorders won't record in some region formats.
I would suggest an external SCSI drive and a controller to save your Primary Drive, but I doubt 120 Euros would push to that :(

Good point Odyssey, I didn't notice he had a CD Burner :D

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 07:35:51 am

i want too keep the two HD's for sure, since i only have two external bays. if i want 3 external drives, i'd need a new case, and i'm not feeling like transfering all my stuff.

and for flexibility: does that regional crap go for data DVD's as well?

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Thorn on March 14, 2004, 10:20:37 am

Toss both of the optical drives and sell em.

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 10:21:07 am

as i said on WS, i could, but copying would be a *****.

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Thorn on March 14, 2004, 10:33:23 am

Use the money to buy a cheap 52X CD drive.. you'd still have money left....

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 10:34:45 am

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Originally posted by Thorn
Use the money to buy a cheap 52X CD drive.. you'd still have money left....

da ****?

i have right now a CD burner and a DVD player, and i want to be able to burn DVD's, so i buy a DVD Burner.

Why the **** should i buy another 52 speed CD burner?

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Thorn on March 14, 2004, 10:51:09 am

CD DRIVE
they cost like 20 bucks...

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 10:58:29 am

Quote

Originally posted by Thorn
CD DRIVE
they cost like 20 bucks...

one more time, WHY?

i really don't get this, i have a DVD reader, a CD burner, and i want to burn DVD's, WHY DO I NEED A CD DRIVE?

Title: Problems
Post by: Star Dragon on March 14, 2004, 11:14:49 am

I don't know the brand off hand (I think IO Magic) but I bought a DVDRW +/- from best buy CHEAP (like $179.00) and it sucks, it don't work and after I installed it it screwed up my CDR drive also (I had taken out my normal DVD)

I can't afford to re install windows cause of the data I would need to burn, which I can't burn cause I need to reinstall windows to get my CDR working right agin, which I can't cause... (endless loop)

TECHNOLOGY BLOWS sometimes... :mad2:

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Thorn on March 14, 2004, 11:16:19 am

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Originally posted by kasperl


one more time, WHY?

i really don't get this, i have a DVD reader, a CD burner, and i want to burn DVD's, WHY DO I NEED A CD DRIVE?

Ah... misunderstanding..
I just woke up, and am slightly hungover....
Yeah.. sell the CD burner then, keep the DVD drive, put the money to a new hard drive...

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 11:20:46 am

i can afford to reinstall, and i can do a lot of stuff to get something to work, really.

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 11:23:48 am

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Originally posted by Thorn

Ah... misunderstanding..
I just woke up, and am slightly hungover....
Yeah.. sell the CD burner then, keep the DVD drive, put the money to a new hard drive...

one word: coffee

i think i'll do that, yeah.

now, what brand to buy and what not to buy.

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Thorn on March 14, 2004, 11:25:55 am

I hear Poineer drives are decent.

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: diamondgeezer on March 14, 2004, 11:46:22 am

Pioneer is good. Lite-On is teh dog's nadgers, and not unreasonably priced either. Happarently most mixing desks with DVD burners use Lite-On lasers. Oh, and Plextor is good - it's a Lite-On with a betetr warranty or summat :nod:

Word to the wise: don't bother with cheap bulk DVD media. Branded stuff is the ticket :nod:

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 11:51:48 am

What about LG?

and my british slang is rather rusty, is LO good or bad?

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Odyssey on March 14, 2004, 11:56:14 am

[color=cc9900]Good. The dog's nadgers are good.[/color]

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 14, 2004, 12:02:14 pm

the following is available for me, anything that is noticeable?

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NEC ND1300A DVD±R/RW IDE OEM Zwart € 115,00
NEC ND2500A DVD±R/RW IDE OEM Ivory € 129,00
NEC ND2500A DVD±R/RW IDE OEM Zwart € 129,00
Pioneer DVR-106 DVD±R/RW IDE OEM Ivory € 119,00
Pioneer DVR-107 DVD±R/RW IDE OEM Ivory € 125,00
LG GSA4040BB DVD±R/RW+RAM IDE OEM Ivory € 109,00
LG GSA4081BB DVD±R/RW+RAM IDE OEM Ivory € 125,00



Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Grey Wolf on March 14, 2004, 12:53:26 pm

The NEC ND2500A seems to have had some fairly good reviews.

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: diamondgeezer on March 14, 2004, 03:04:37 pm

www.tomshardware.com

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Kazan on March 14, 2004, 05:08:54 pm

I have a NEC ND1300A

you may want to check pioneer's site - either panasonic or pioneer have a couple DVD-5 drives out that will be able to be updated to DVD-9 support via a free firmware upgrade they're going to supply

(DVD-5 = single player 4.38GB, DVD-9 = full "comcerical" disk size two layers)

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: kasperl on March 15, 2004, 02:17:25 am

dude, how much would a DVD-9 drive cost?

Title: DVD+-RW Burners
Post by: Kazan on March 15, 2004, 09:30:09 am

they're coming out later this month and they'll start in the full $300 range


those DVD-5's that can be updated into DVD-9s are selling between $100 and $150 .. though i forget which manufacturer and models