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Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Arculis on March 14, 2004, 11:31:27 pm

I'm just now starting to figure this fighter modeling stuff out, but I just want to ask a question here without having to search through tons of confusing tutorial information. Fighters use a sub model for thruster plumes, which I've figured out how to make work. I just want to know if You can also use submodels for other things that are part of fighters, such as turrets, without causing any trouble. (My experience so far has been that being slightly off can really screw up a lot of hard work.) So can I have fighter models that use additional submodels besides just thruster plumes, using them the same way that thrusters are used?

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Nuke on March 15, 2004, 12:02:43 am

yea, you can have turrets, rotating ship sections, gatling guns so ohn and so fourth.

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Liberator on March 15, 2004, 12:35:35 am

Fighters/Bombers are limited in the number of subsystems though, IIRC , so go easy.

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: karajorma on March 15, 2004, 04:32:34 am

I seem to vaguely remember that only bombers will use turrets correctly but I could be wrong.

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: ryuune75 on March 15, 2004, 07:47:29 am

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Originally posted by karajorma
I seem to vaguely remember that only bombers will use turrets correctly but I could be wrong.

Yes, turrets in fighters won't work. Maybe the SCP guys can fix that....

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Bobboau on March 15, 2004, 09:42:25 am

been fixed

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Arculis on March 15, 2004, 05:43:42 pm

I don't necessarily need submodels that are functional, I'm just wondering if I can attach them to a fighter. MOSTLY just for the sake of being able to manager different models in Lithium Unwrapper when I want to texture them.

I'm messing with a fighter design that uses the primary model for the base, then a another submodel to support secondary cannons, a secondary model to support primary cannons, and third model for thruster plumes. The cannon sets are especially detailed, because they way they are setup is part of the overall look of the ship.

Now I'm wondering if 939 verticles and 1096 faces is a bit much... (And that's after a lot of trimming!)

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: karajorma on March 15, 2004, 07:23:37 pm

It's actually under spec for a HTL fighter by about half :D

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Arculis on March 15, 2004, 07:58:09 pm

Yeah but what about the normal version?

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Bobboau on March 15, 2004, 09:02:39 pm

to much for non-htl, keep it below 800 verts (I think)
just keep it in HTL mode, there is no limit to how much crap you are alowed to cram into it then.

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: Arculis on March 15, 2004, 11:38:41 pm

Frankly I don't even know what HTL mode is... :P

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: phreak on March 15, 2004, 11:52:07 pm

basically we can make 10,000 poly ships.  i wouldn't recommend anything above 5000 unless its a one-of-a-kind ship

just check the SCP forum

Title: Can fighters have additional?
Post by: karajorma on March 16, 2004, 06:53:51 pm

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Originally posted by Arculis
Frankly I don't even know what HTL mode is... :P

Basically it's an option in FS2_Open where the graphics card rather than the CPU does all the hard work.

The result is that you can have much higher polys in a single subobject  (FS2 was limited to ~750 per subobject).