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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Fineus on March 16, 2004, 11:49:09 am
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Hey all, I got my pad today, and of course I'm diving in the deep end with using it, but the quickest way to get things right - other than practice - is posting up a product and seeing what can be improved (and indeed how) since I'm not used to working with a graphics tablet and this is my first image with it (once the basics were down).
So, opinions. The entire thing was done by me - in particular I'd like to know how to sort out the jagged/fat outlines... I'm thinking increasing the resolution while drawing them will help a lot - but all opinions and aid are welcome. Thanks!
Edit: Ok, second attempt at this thread (copied from the original). Constructive posts only please :rolleyes:
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Well, you don't draw the outlines with the wacom :p
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hehe :P
go here:
www.GFXartist.com
One of the biggest digital art communities, has a great tutroial section with pieces written by a number of pros. Plus some pretty stonking artwork :P
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Nico: Duely noted... but I'm not sure what the best way to get line art into Photoshop is (and indeed make it decent)...
Jiggyhound: Thanks man, nice tutorials!
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FISHY!!!
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
I'm not sure what the best way to get line art into Photoshop is
pen tool.
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hand made, then scanned, touched up, etc.
That's the only real way, I'm afraid, to do.
Of course you can use splines, pen tools etc, but yeah, you don't build a house with a fork, right?
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Vasudans wuv fishes.
What is it that you're using to draw with, Kal?
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Cheers for the feedback guys, I'm currently playing with Carls pen suggestion (which is turning out very well) on an old drawing I already had scanned in. Expect complete coloring with the tablet.
Corsair the entire image above was created using Adobe Photoshop and a Wacom Graphire 3. That's it (it was done in freehand by the way, hence the jagged lines. Carls pen suggestion has entirely removed this).
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And here's the results of my pen tool work... not sure how I'm going to apply it to more detailed objects. We'll see.
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Actually, that, to me, looks like that could open like a Chrysalis, with rows of ships inside. Sort of like a Shivan 'Carrier' ;)
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ookay, now that i've finally seen this, great stuff getting a wacom, :yes:
but the real trick is getting it to look 3-d without the lines..
like so..
(http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Turnsky/Furs/reidmk2.jpg)
but it can be used to get decent looking cartoony style stuff as well..
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Turnsky/warprofiteering.jpg)
th' real trick is getting the lines to look smooth. a wacom's great for that...
the more you practice with it, the better at it you'll get
pressure sensitivity rocks..
oh, nico, i need to pick your brains about making air/spacecraft in photoshop..;)
EDIT: this was done with a tablet, BTW http://www.deviantart.com/view/5047759/ (not mine, but immensely cool)
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Originally posted by Turnsky
oh, nico, i need to pick your brains about making air/spacecraft in photoshop..;)
I can't :p
I make them in 3D, and just touch 'em up in PS.
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Turnsky, dude! How do you get your line art into Photoshop.. so far the prefered method seems to be:
1. Sketch.
2. Scan.
3. Ink using pen tool in Photoshop/Illustrator.
4. Color using Photoshop.
Obviously thats the condensed method but you get the idea. Is that on the money?
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mine's a tad more long-winded;)
lessee..
i use a technique simular to this one: (albiet with a few minor differences of my own.. not exactly efficient, but it works..
http://www.machall.com/indexcontent.php?doshow=info_art
altho, you can scan direct, and work away at it like so..
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Turnsky/alphawip.jpg)
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Nice mate, thanks - time for me to go sketch something :nod:
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Turnsky, dude! How do you get your line art into Photoshop.. so far the prefered method seems to be:
1. Sketch.
2. Scan.
3. Ink using pen tool in Photoshop/Illustrator.
4. Color using Photoshop.
Obviously thats the condensed method but you get the idea. Is that on the money?
My exact method:
1. Sketch
2. I stick a transparent sheet ( tracing paper ) over the sketch
3. I redraw with ink following the sketch ( Rotring or Pilot pen, depending on if I'm brave enough to recharge the Rotring or not ).
4. Scan
5. Inking adjustement ( with level, contrast, etc ). Because of step 3., this becomes much easier
5. Colouring. in PS
Edit: on a side note, that Alpha Shade comics on your link is cool, Turnsky
"adds to favourites"
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that works too..
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Great start on the fish and the station, Kal. :) I'm totally ignorant about tablets, so I encourage you to go with what has led me through every other thing I've had to learn from scratch - experiment experiment experiment. :nod:
:yes: :yes: @ the winged fox, Turnsky...
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Man, Steak, if you EVER draw stuff by hand, you owe it to yourself to give a tablet a try. Heck, if you ever have to touch up a photo or render, you have to try a tablet. The fine grained control you get with it is vastly superior to a mouse in every way.
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It's on my to-do list - seriously. :) I've known of the advantages of a tablet for a long time, but so far I've been choosing my purchases to give me more time away from a computer screen. I'll never be away from the screen if I get a tablet and get back into rendering - and that's really not appropriate for me right now, for plenty of reasons. ;)
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But... but the Array.... ;)
Seriously man - I know what you mean, but recently I've been going out a bit to much - my theory being that if I get myself something neat for the computer (the Wacom) then I'll not go out every night drinking with my mates - thus it saves me money in the long run! It works in a fuzzy kinda way. At any rate I'm now trying to get the hang of line art so I have something decent to color... but here's something I'm more or less done with:
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Originally posted by Setekh
It's on my to-do list - seriously. :) I've known of the advantages of a tablet for a long time, but so far I've been choosing my purchases to give me more time away from a computer screen. I'll never be away from the screen if I get a tablet and get back into rendering - and that's really not appropriate for me right now, for plenty of reasons. ;)
Funny, I'm looking for a way to stay away from the screen and I can't find one. :blah:
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I'm getting a good reason Mik, Physiotherapy on my back :( Though I blame my workplace and boxes full of paper on shelves over 6 ft high, and no stepladder, for that.