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Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Goober5000 on March 17, 2004, 02:40:09 pm
I'm getting tired of saying this on a per-thread basis, so let me make it clear here.

We aren't adding any new features until after 3.6.  Any feature request posts will be ignored.

You're welcome to post them again after 3.6 is released.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: TopAce on March 17, 2004, 02:52:34 pm
I don't know why, but I have the feeling that feature requests in this forum has always been ignored. How many features did you implement into FSO which were requested at HLP?
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Lightspeed on March 17, 2004, 03:13:43 pm
How many features have been proposed on HLP that are basically impossible to implement / a lot of effort to do?
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Inquisitor on March 17, 2004, 03:22:59 pm
I'd say quite a bit.  But that is another argument for another thread.

We've run a bit behind on getting this release out, help us not be distracted to finish it.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Nico on March 17, 2004, 04:40:50 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Lightspeed
impossible to implement / a lot of effort to do?


Should I laugh at the irony of the "if it ain't easy, dream on"?
Guess it's not funny, after all.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Taristin on March 17, 2004, 06:47:42 pm
It kinda is... :rolleyes:
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Flipside on March 17, 2004, 07:05:24 pm
I think what LS means is that something that is a lot of effort to do will take a lot longer to do, like HT&L?

I could, of course, be wrong ;)
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Sticks on March 17, 2004, 09:32:45 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Nico

Should I laugh at the irony of the "if it ain't easy, dream on"?
Guess it's not funny, after all.


You're right.
The source is open, feel free to code whatever features you like.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Liberator on March 17, 2004, 10:40:35 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Inquisitor
We've run a bit behind on getting this release out, help us not be distracted to finish it.


Ok.

Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!
Concentrate on release!

There, did that help?
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bobboau on March 17, 2004, 11:10:46 pm
Nico, do you think what we've been doing is easy?

all the work restructuring for HHL would seem like childs play if we were to try something like multable docking points. the game wasn't built very well in many places.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Carl on March 17, 2004, 11:12:28 pm
oh! oh! we should make it so "z" will make you go backwards after it passes 0 m/s! and strafing! :drevil: :D
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bobboau on March 17, 2004, 11:17:45 pm
that's another thing, what is with people asking for things that have been done for eons
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Nico on March 18, 2004, 12:18:15 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sticks


You're right.
The source is open, feel free to code whatever features you like.


"raise shoulders"
You're not expecting me to reply to that, right?
I'll try coding when you're as good as me for modelling. Fed up of arrogant people, thank you.

Bob: no, but I can't help but notice the most common requests ( the turret pointing up thing, etc ) are always rejected ( too difficult? ) and we get SEXP instead ( save from you, actually, and you're being yelled at when it happens? :doubt: )
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bobboau on March 18, 2004, 12:31:22 am
uh, actualy I said I'd try to fix the turret thing once were out of the code freize

and I'm as good at modeling as you :p
and back when I first coded environment mapping it was implemented the way you wanted it (though it didn't work untill about two weeks ago so you wouldn't have known about it)

I actualy pay specal attention to your requests
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: redmenace on March 18, 2004, 01:52:48 am
Quote
Originally posted by Nico


"raise shoulders"
You're not expecting me to reply to that, right?
I'll try coding when you're as good as me for modelling. Fed up of arrogant people, thank you.

Bob: no, but I can't help but notice the most common requests ( the turret pointing up thing, etc ) are always rejected ( too difficult? ) and we get SEXP instead ( save from you, actually, and you're being yelled at when it happens? :doubt: )


Things are difficult. HOWEVER, Doesn't mean we won't attempt if we feel things are definatly worth while. :V: code, especially FRED, is spagetti and make really nice usefull features difficult to code. And even after it is coded we can expect problems. Many of you don't realize how much upkeep is involved in the code.
Following is the summary from mantis:
Summary (open/resolved/closed/total)



I am not trying to be confrontational with you,
be sure that we understand that it is you and the modders that will profit from our work.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Carl on March 18, 2004, 02:21:29 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
that's another thing, what is with people asking for things that have been done for eons


wha? we have strafing and reverse?
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bobboau on March 18, 2004, 02:25:32 am
you are kidding right?
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: DragonClaw on March 18, 2004, 06:36:51 am
Well I know there's always been strafing, it just required table changes. I, however, did not know about reverse.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Nico on March 18, 2004, 12:04:35 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
uh, actualy I said I'd try to fix the turret thing once were out of the code freize

and I'm as good at modeling as you :p
and back when I first coded environment mapping it was implemented the way you wanted it (though it didn't work untill about two weeks ago so you wouldn't have known about it)

I actualy pay specal attention to your requests


I wasn't replying to you, you're a special nut case ( people shouldn't be good at multiple things for fairness sake :p ), I was replying to Sticks.

Btw, yeah, DC's right, I keep telling people that strafing keys are there on vanilla FS2 by default, they're on the numpad. But yeah, iirc, there's no reverse, tho.
That's why my Pyro GX was so kewwwwwwwl ( ego inflation warning ahead ).
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Terorist on March 18, 2004, 12:11:46 pm
It's been there for a long time. I mostly played around with it in TBP that most needed it. However, the AI still doesn't quite know how to use it, right? That was something of an issue back then, and still is since no-one has had the time or energy to touch any AI code - right?

This simply brings up the importance of having good documentation, again. It's quite a lot to expect everyone to always keep up with all the threads and new features that easily get buried there if you're not observant enough or active on the forum... I wonder how many features have never made it to my attention. :)
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Sticks on March 18, 2004, 01:47:41 pm
The difference Nico, is that I don't go to the mod forum and request that you make models for me. ;)

But, you are correct. Your modeling skills way outshine mine. It would just be nice if we could keep some perspective.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Nico on March 18, 2004, 02:54:23 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sticks
The difference Nico, is that I don't go to the mod forum and request that you make models for me. ;)

That's because you don't need them. The other way around might not be true ;)
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Sticks on March 18, 2004, 03:10:57 pm
Touche, sir
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Johnmike on March 23, 2004, 06:20:12 am
=3
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bobboau on March 23, 2004, 06:32:29 am
you know I actualy implemented the ai to use the slideing but Goob said it was messing with things and turned it off
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bri_Dog on March 23, 2004, 10:10:05 am
I WANT GEO MODDING!!!!!!!111111oneoneoneoneone


:p :D
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Sticks on March 23, 2004, 12:21:55 pm
Code: [Select]


void MessageTools::KillDufus(dufus NewDufus, weapon NewWeapon) {
     
     NewWeapon->Use(kill);
     NewDufus->Release();

}

int WinMain {

     dufus *Bri_Dog = new dufus;
     weapon *reallyreallybigstick = new weapon;
     MessageTools *kill = new MessageTools;

     kill->KillDufus(Bri_Dog,reallyreallybigstick);

}



Any questions?
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Joey_21 on March 23, 2004, 12:58:05 pm
No questions here, just a concern...

I hope the lack of the "delete" command for the corresponding pieces of memory allocated off of the heap using "new" is any indication of what goes on inside of the SCP's source. :shaking:

Perhaps when I complete my Data Structures course this semester I should start taking a look at what the SCP has added thus far and see if I may be able to contribute too.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Nico on March 23, 2004, 01:20:49 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
you know I actualy implemented the ai to use the slideing but Goob said it was messing with things and turned it off


ghhh.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Sticks on March 23, 2004, 01:31:29 pm
Quote
hope the lack of the "delete" command for the corresponding pieces of memory allocated off of the heap using "new" is any indication of what goes on inside of the SCP's source.


It is not. I just got lazy and the joke got too long.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bri_Dog on March 24, 2004, 01:55:55 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sticks
Code: [Select]


void MessageTools::KillDufus(dufus NewDufus, weapon NewWeapon) {
     
     NewWeapon->Use(kill);
     NewDufus->Release();

}

int WinMain {

     dufus *Bri_Dog = new dufus;
     weapon *reallyreallybigstick = new weapon;
     MessageTools *kill = new MessageTools;

     kill->KillDufus(Bri_Dog,reallyreallybigstick);

}



Any questions? [/B]


That doesn't look like geo mod code :wtf:





:lol:
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Joey_21 on March 24, 2004, 12:31:00 pm
Code: [Select]

void main()
{
     geoMod newMod;
     newMod.allowGeoMod(true);
     Bri_Dog::~Bri_Dog(); :drevil:
}

void geoMod::allowGeoMod(bool newValue)
{
     this -> geoModDoesWork = newValue;
}



:p
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Bri_Dog on March 24, 2004, 01:47:22 pm
You guys can stop making fun at my expense now :p
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Flipside on March 24, 2004, 02:23:30 pm
Can't resist....

FOR X=1 TO 10
PROCslap (Bri_Dog)
NEXT X
END

Spot the old bloke ;) hehehehehe
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: kasperl on March 24, 2004, 02:28:36 pm
QB?

I'd never thought i would see any of that outside of my own posts anymore.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Antares on March 25, 2004, 09:24:19 pm
Looks like Pascal.
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Carl on March 25, 2004, 10:35:35 pm
:nervous:

(http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/pst02.gif)
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Goober5000 on March 25, 2004, 11:58:52 pm
*smacks Carl*
Title: Please Do Not Make Any Feature Requests
Post by: Flipside on March 26, 2004, 02:18:57 pm
It's BBC Basic without the line numbers ;)