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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grey Wolf on April 03, 2004, 03:52:58 pm
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I'm in need of a new game to play, having beaten most of mine multiple times. Anyone have a suggestion for a good, recent game?
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Get a Mega-Drive emulator.
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Are you looking for new games or old? I mean, can your computer handle the new releases? If your computer can handle it, March/April are the "holy months" for PC gaming in 2004. If you can't find a game you like, you're beyond help :D:D
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tommorow
Far Cry
UT2004
Battlefield: Vietnam
Painkiller
Nemeis of th Roman Empire
Hitman Contracts (soon)
Sacred
Colin McRae Rally 2004
Universal Combat
Lords of the Realm 3
and going a few months back you've got
Deus Ex 2: Invisible War
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Homeworld 2
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Soldat. Independant development, 2d shooter. Think worms + quake.
Its been mention on HLP before i think, but its free to download (cheap to register) and the multiplayer online passes many an hour.
http://www.soldat.prv.pl/
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kinda hard to give you suggestions if we don't know what games you already have.
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Well, let's see what I have:
Independence War 2
FreeSpace (both 1 and 2)
SW: Knights of the Old Republic
NWN
Baldur's Gate (1 and 2)
X-Wing Alliance
Civilization (2 and 3)
Mechwarrior 4
Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries
There's a bunch of others, but those are the ones I've played the most. Wouldn't mind a good FPS though....
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Starcraft.
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fps's?
half life 2 is out soon
ut2004 is too
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Doom.
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There are at least 3 good FPSs out now, 2 mutliplayer, 1 singleplayer. You also have Painkiller, which should be good good mindless fun, as well as Splinter Cell: Pandora and Deus Ex 2 which are similar to FPSs.
Check my post man, its all right there is black and white :nod: :nod:
If you've got the computer for it, FarCry looks amazingly amazing. Best graphics this side of Doom3. Well, judging from screenshots. Don't quite have the horsepower to run it just yet.
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Can I add Transport Tycoon Deluxe? If you don't quit your job/education to spend you life playing this, your a better man than I.
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UT2k4.
Go. Now.
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Alpha (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/sidmeiersalphacentauri/index.html) Centauri (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/alpha-centauri/?ui=gamefinder) :nod:
also... any one of the X series (X - Beyond the Frontier, X2 - The threat, etc...)
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ut is a pointless shooter
you get bored in 1 hour
playing Battlefield 1942: Desert Combat
ALL THE TIME! :)
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Originally posted by Stunaep
UT2k4.
Go. Now.
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Originally posted by an0n
Doom.
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I'd say Oni. discovered it this week. Best game I've played in quite a while, I must say. shooter/fighting game in third person, with quite an interesting plot.
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Really? I played the 2 demos a few years ago, and thought the gameplay was pretty fun. The story and characters however, made me laugh. Its like they intentionally made them cheesy...
Might try the full game sometime, if you say its good. The gameplay was very original and just flat out fun.
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Mechwarrior 4
Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries/B]
Get a copy of mw3 if you can, best one of the series
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Hmm.... Off of the list posted earlier, UT2k4, Deus Ex 2, and HL2 are all looking rather interesting....
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Oni was cool, although I never felt that I was 100% in control of the fighting system
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Project Nomads :) Rather nice looking game, and bloody hard! ;)
Flipside :D
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If you like RTS games then try Rise of Nation excellent RTS one of the best I've seen. Especially the nice nuclear explosion effects. :devil:
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Do not get Zuma! I only have one word: addiction! You have been warned! :mad2:
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UT2k4, but whoever suggested alpha centauri is going to get beat since i want to play it now :p
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
Alpha (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/sidmeiersalphacentauri/index.html) Centauri (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/alpha-centauri/?ui=gamefinder) :nod:
also... any one of the X series (X - Beyond the Frontier, X2 - The threat, etc...)
So right and so wrong at the same time...
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is a triumphant, incredible, perfect 4X game. Everyone should have this game. Even if you don't like the style, you should have THIS one.
X2-The Threat: The only threat here is that you might spend your hard earned cash only to discover that the game is so bad that some one needs to be brought up on criminal charges for allowing it to be released. I mean really: this game should be banned under one of the Geneva Conventions.
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If you got a really good comp, you might be able to handle Halo's insane memory overusage.
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C&C Generals kicks ass.
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I just got Halo, and frankly, multiplayer kicks some serious butt.
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Replay Total Annihilation, I just dug my copy out and I can't stop playing it.
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Originally posted by beatspete
Can I add Transport Tycoon Deluxe? If you don't quit your job/education to spend you life playing this, your a better man than I.
How about Transport Giant (http://www.transportgiant.com/) when it's finised :D
(and yes, Oni is cool)
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Originally posted by beatspete
Can I add Transport Tycoon Deluxe? If you don't quit your job/education to spend you life playing this, your a better man than I.
How do you make it work under XP? coz I sure as hell can't :mad:
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Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry, Far Cry.
Best FPS I've ever played.
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Originally posted by Nico
How do you make it work under XP? coz I sure as hell can't :mad:
Download & Install the Win2k/XP compatability patch v1.03f (http://www2.dlh.net/cgi-bin/dlp.cgi?lang=eng&sys=pc&file=smacxp103fus.zip)
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Haegemonia. It's a Homeworld-style RTS. Demo didn't impress me much but I found a copy for fairly cheap, and it's a damn fun game. Other great games are any in the Legacy of Kain or the Silent Hill series, and the new Prince of Persia game.
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Imperium Galactica II: Alliances
You can probably pick it up for a very low price by now but its truly a very good game with a very high replayability factor :D
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Originally posted by Tiara
Imperium Galactica II: Alliances
You can probably pick it up for a very low price by now but its truly a very good game with a very high replayability factor :D
:nod: i agree.. also, Haegemonia (hegemonia as it's known elsewhere) is also good, abiet buggy as hell when it comes to ATI cards..
lessee.. both NOLF games
AvP2
Clive barker's Undying (good scary game ;) )
Star-trek DS9: The Fallen
KOTOR
Call Of duty
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Originally posted by mikhael
So right and so wrong at the same time...
X2-The Threat: The only threat here is that you might spend your hard earned cash only to discover that the game is so bad that some one needs to be brought up on criminal charges for allowing it to be released. I mean really: this game should be banned under one of the Geneva Conventions.
*coughs and repeats HEPT cannon* :mad:
X2 the Threat isn't nearly as bad as people make it seem. Freelancer, which was supposed to be in the same genre, was good, but the economic system in there was static. There are many reasons why X2 is better than FL (I won't list now, even though FL has the advantage of having MP as a possibility), but one thing you can't deny is that the X2 universe is more alive than that in any Elitoid.
Granted, the character animations (barring commlink screens) are horrible, and the story is far from revolutionary, but considering it's meant to be an open game you don't really need the plot, unless you really need those freebies like the free ATS Mercury or the equipment off that ATP Express. Besides, it's one of the rare that lets you be a bounty hunter in the fullest sense - kill the pilot and scavenge the ship. :hopping:
Anyhow... of the other games, I'd recommend Total Annihilation, Alpha Centauri (incl. Alien Crossfire), Unreal Tournament (the first one/GOTY), Morrowind, Need-4-Speed Underground... maybe even both the Battlezones.
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2 words. DUNGEON KEEPER. nuff said
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[color=66ff00]Found Deus Ex 2 to be uninspiring, played it for about 2 hours.
Silent hill is just the same old game with better graphics each sequal so if you haven't played it before get a PSX and the first one but the sequals are just timid rehashes.
On advisement I've been playing the hell out of Hostile waters, kicks arse and is quite challenging. :nod: Bought it for £2 as well so good on that point too. :)
Ever played any of the old Xcom games? They're bloody great.
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Startopia
*sniff* RIP muckyfoot (http://www.muckyfoot.co.uk/) *sniff*
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Bit of a question. What's all of your opinions on the original Deus Ex?
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Originally posted by Stealth[cro]
X2 the Threat isn't nearly as bad as people make it seem. Freelancer, which was supposed to be in the same genre, was good, but the economic system in there was static. There are many reasons why X2 is better than FL (I won't list now, even though FL has the advantage of having MP as a possibility), but one thing you can't deny is that the X2 universe is more alive than that in any Elitoid.
Granted, the character animations (barring commlink screens) are horrible, and the story is far from revolutionary, but considering it's meant to be an open game you don't really need the plot, unless you really need those freebies like the free ATS Mercury or the equipment off that ATP Express. Besides, it's one of the rare that lets you be a bounty hunter in the fullest sense - kill the pilot and scavenge the ship. :hopping:
Actually, its really, incredibly, utterly bad. Let's see. First the box says 'Space Simulator'. This is false advertising. It should read "Economic Simulator (with really god damned bad arcade space combat tacked on as an afterthought)". Second, the space piloting and combat sucks like the proverbial singularity.
You compare the game to Freelancer, which is patently silly. Freelancer, for all its flaws, is a space combat game first, with a cheesy little economic system tacked on. It didn't say, on the box, "Freelancer -- Economic Simulator".
For all its flaws, Freelancer is the far better playing, better looking, better put together game. All this and I don't really much like Freelancer.
It is my mission in life to make sure that everyone knows just how bad X2 really is.
GW2009: Dx is one of the best PC games I've ever played. It is, in fact, in the top five with System Shock 2, Thief, I-War2 and Baldur's Gate.
Actually, make that 'top three'. Thief, Shock2 and Deus Ex get the top three spots.
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Bit of a question. What's all of your opinions on the original Deus Ex?
I got it on PS2. It's awesome. Freakin' awesome :yes:
just play it
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Deus Ex = boring pos
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Originally posted by Drew
Deus Ex = boring pos
Drew = Heathen ;)
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i have more fun when i kick the bots asses on UT at godlike, lighning mode, %110 speed. :D
Deus Ex is an RPG that shouldnt have been an FPS
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Originally posted by mikhael
Actually, make that 'top three'. Thief, Shock2 and Deus Ex get the top three spots.
Blasphemy!!! KILL THE HERETIC!!!! All hail FreeSpace 2!!! :D
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[color=66ff00]Deus Ex is IMHO quite excellent.
Mindless blast em ups like quake and UT, now those are boring.
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Escape Velocity Nova (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/) (WARNING: extremely addictive)
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Originally posted by beatspete
Soldat. Independant development, 2d shooter. Think worms + quake.
Its been mention on HLP before i think, but its free to download (cheap to register) and the multiplayer online passes many an hour.
http://www.soldat.prv.pl/
SOLDAT
SOLDAT
SOLDAT
SOLDAT
SOLDAT AAAALL THE WAAAAAYYYYY
Soldat should be compulsory.
I just love this game. Wuv it to the eXXXtreme! Beatspete, what's your nick? I use El Perkele [NOT GAY!!]. I must meet and challenge you.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Imperium Galactica II: Alliances
Ya know a girl I met in budapest used to work for the company that made the IG series. Apparently, they also made something called Alcatraz. Judging by the number of times I've heard about it (0), it can't be really good.
I think I should pick that one up somtime.
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Actually I started digging some old games out of my CD drawer. I remember the original Unreal was hailed as amazing when it came out, and I'll always remember it as the first FPS that introduced the concept of scenic realism to the genre. The story's non-existent, but the levels (and the sheer length of the game - it's hugely long) are brilliant. Think you can get it as part of a pack with Unreal Tournament these days?
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Yup, I remember seeing an UT/U/Return to Na Pali pack somewhere...
Originally posted by mikhael
First the box says 'Space Simulator'. This is false advertising. It should read "Economic Simulator (with really god damned bad arcade space combat tacked on as an afterthought)".
Space sim = "Trade-fight-build-think sim". Pretty true considering the origins and the gameplay.
For a physical system that resembles that of FS2 (+ lateral thrusters and inertia), I don't think space combat is all that arcade.
Second, the space piloting and combat sucks like the proverbial singularity.
Experience tells me only people who can't figure out the way combat works, especially M5 combat (which involves a LOT of turning and throttling, like hunting down a Shivan Dragon) say that. Combat is one of the things you need to learn, it doesn't work all as dandy as in FreeSpace (which I still consider a damn good space combat sim). Freelancer wasn't much different in that aspect, either, aside from the rarely-used Inertial mode. I mean, every ship capped at 80 m/s?
You compare the game to Freelancer, which is patently silly. Freelancer, for all its flaws, is a space combat game first, with a cheesy little economic system tacked on. It didn't say, on the box, "Freelancer -- Economic Simulator".
Not true, FL boasted for a LONG time with its "all-powerful trade system." The promo said so, LancersReactor said so (and continued slagging X2 until someone actually figured tolerance was the better part of valor here).
For all its flaws, Freelancer is the far better playing, better looking, better put together game. All this and I don't really much like Freelancer.
Better playing, yet you don't like it. Better looking - only with some ships and maybe one or two sectors, but that's my opinion only.
It is my mission in life to make sure that everyone knows just how bad X2 really is.
Being a zealot for some game is okay enough by me, but being an anti-game zealot... If you don't like the game, it just means you're not cut out for it, not that the game sucks. Hell, a lot of people never played FS, kept saying it sucked, ad then tried it. Some dropped because they weren't good, some because they didn't like it. But none ever said it was a bad game just because they sucked at it.
Mod, Admin, anyone... please move this X2 firefight someplace else, I don't think I can extinguish it, even though I know i'm one of the incinerators here. :sigh:
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I'm in agreement with what mik said, combat in the first X game was actually possible without becoming an AI-ram-you-to-death-fest. X2 was regressive in the combat respect - and even if they fixed this in a patch, it was unforgivable to release the game in its original state.
And it's the only space sim which has a more horrific interface than Klingon Academy.
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< diversion >
BOOM!!
So, um, any other decent games coming/ out then?
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Uhh.... Thief 3?
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Uhh.... Thief 3?
Project Lead just quit, apparently. http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=422004-144750
Y'know what? Thiking about it, there are roughly 2 (PC) games I can think of that I actually want due to come out this year. And only one of them I can remember offhand (that bugbear nutcase racing game). Plus GTA:SA on the PS2.
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get a console. all it has is games. I just recently got myself a dreamcast and am now discovering the wondrous world of great games on a dead console.
oh, and I got myself another part in the resident evil series for the gamecube. only like 3 to go now before resident evil 4 comes out...
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Originally posted by kode
get a console. all it has is games. I just recently got myself a dreamcast and am now discovering the wondrous world of great games on a dead console.
oh, and I got myself another part in the resident evil series for the gamecube. only like 3 to go now before resident evil 4 comes out...
I have a console. A Ps2. I've bought exactly 3 games since i got it - and one of those is the sequel to the other (PES2 & PES3).
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Originally posted by Stealth[cro]
Space sim = "Trade-fight-build-think sim". Pretty true considering the origins and the gameplay.
For a physical system that resembles that of FS2 (+ lateral thrusters and inertia), I don't think space combat is all that arcade.
Um. Yeah. FS2 is an arcade space combat game. IWar2 is a Space combat simulator. There's a huge difference.
Experience tells me only people who can't figure out the way combat works, especially M5 combat (which involves a LOT of turning and throttling, like hunting down a Shivan Dragon) say that. Combat is one of the things you need to learn, it doesn't work all as dandy as in FreeSpace (which I still consider a damn good space combat sim). Freelancer wasn't much different in that aspect, either, aside from the rarely-used Inertial mode. I mean, every ship capped at 80 m/s?
Yep. Freelancer did indeed suck, but at least, after you got over the idiosyncracies, there was a game in it. On the other hand, X2's combat involved, um, sitting back and shooting at the enemy targets. See, they don't run, they don't dodge, they don't try to get on your six. They just try to ram you. Yeah, shooting them enemies bearing straight down on you: that's the essence of combat. Wheee!
Not true, FL boasted for a LONG time with its "all-powerful trade system." The promo said so, LancersReactor said so (and continued slagging X2 until someone actually figured tolerance was the better part of valor here).
Did it? I must have missed it whilst I was ignoring the game for ignoring the joystick. Funny thing though: in the game, the trade system is 100% secondary and completely supernumerary, kinda light the space combat end of X2. You can get through almost the entire game without having to deal with either.
Better playing, yet you don't like it. Better looking - only with some ships and maybe one or two sectors, but that's my opinion only.
Yep. Starcraft is better than Warcraft, but I still don't like either game. See, its possilbe to form an intelligent opinion about how subjectively good or bad a game is after you play it--and still not like the game. Aquanox2 bites major ass, but its a better game than X2 in a lot of ways.
The thing with the "looks" department of X2 is that it was inconsistent. The backgrounds were gorgeous. Some of space was stunning. The ships... well, the ships were these amorphous blobs with badly tiled textures and incredibly ugly designs, for the most part. The bases, for the most part were the same way. It doesn't take long playing the game before one would rather stay in a base and remotely manage all of your factories and shipping and let the computer handle the mind-numbing combat JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE THE "SPACE COMBAT ENGINE" at work.
Being a zealot for some game is okay enough by me, but being an anti-game zealot... If you don't like the game, it just means you're not cut out for it, not that the game sucks. Hell, a lot of people never played FS, kept saying it sucked, ad then tried it. Some dropped because they weren't good, some because they didn't like it. But none ever said it was a bad game just because they sucked at it.
See, you're assuming I'm bad at the game. I wasn't: I never had a problem with the combat (except when I was trying to do things with the starting ship that shouldn't be done!). I just found the game to, you know, suck donkey balls.
I can respect the fact that you like the game. Good for you. I won't sit back and let you recommend that someone else buy it without giving fair, shrill warning first. Its not fair to them. People shouldn't buy games that are this bad--especially if they live somewhere that doesn't let you return a bad game.
BTW, I'll thank you to not cast aspersions at me. Argue the game, not the player, thanks.
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Two Words (Plus One Number):
System Shock 2
I know all of you have you own opinions, but this game just kicks ass...
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I think I liked X2 because it's a different experience than Freespace 2 even though its graphics sucked anus,
I liked the background of stars
I liked the way you could trade
The music really gave me chills, like it was spooky or something, kind of like how space is.
I like the engine as far as the cockpit view, even tho it was poorly constructed
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Hehe, I remember a part in the Unreal manual that went "mouse aiming, and why you should".
:D:D Man, thats old. At the time, I was still aiming using the cursor keys, and mouse aiming was totally new and wierd to me. Today, I can't imagine what it must be like to play with the cursor keys. Oh, wait, I can: Xbox.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Silent hill is just the same old game with better graphics each sequal so if you haven't played it before get a PSX and the first one but the sequals are just timid rehashes.
On advisement I've been playing the hell out of Hostile waters, kicks arse and is quite challenging. :nod: Bought it for £2 as well so good on that point too. :)
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I disagree about Silent Hill. I've played all of them, and in my opinion they've gotten better each game. The story in all of them is fantastic for one thing. Agreed about Hostile Waters though, that game rules.
And Turnsky, what do you mean Haegemonia's buggy on ATi cards? I've got a Radeon and haven't noticed any bugs at all yet.
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Two Words (Plus One Number):
System Shock 2
You are correct, sir! It is the finest FPS (First Person Sneaker) ever made. Deus Ex and Thief 1, 2 (and indeed, it looks like 3) come close, but Dx swayed too far to the run and gun style of regular FPS games (especially in the later levels) whilst Thief sways too far to sneaking. Shock2 is the perfect blend of the two styles. Besides that, the music and ambient sounds and the AI barks just induce an atmosphere of paranoia and terror. :) All in all, one of the finest games ever made, IMHO.
Originally posted by jdjtcagle
I think I liked X2 because it's a different experience than Freespace 2 even though its graphics sucked anus,
I liked the background of stars
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I like the engine as far as the cockpit view, even tho it was poorly constructed
See, I can agree with these points about X2. These are definitely things in its favor. :D
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Originally posted by mikhael
You are correct, sir! It is the finest FPS (First Person Sneaker) ever made. Deus Ex and Thief 1, 2 (and indeed, it looks like 3) come close, but Dx swayed too far to the run and gun style of regular FPS games (especially in the later levels) whilst Thief sways too far to sneaking. Shock2 is the perfect blend of the two styles. Besides that, the music and ambient sounds and the AI barks just induce an atmosphere of paranoia and terror. :) All in all, one of the finest games ever made, IMHO.
*hugs mikhael*
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Games that I highly enjoyed or am replaying:
Jedi Knight Jedi Academy (dual lightsabers or lightsaber staff? YOU decide!) :)
Mechwarrior: Mercenaries (The New Battlefields website just came out with a map pack (called "New Battlefields Full Install") with new multiplayer missions and new terrain maps. You can find it here (http://www.newbattlefields.com/files.htm). Warning: It's a HUGE DL: 195Megs! But WELL worth it IMO.)
Thief I and II (If Thief III gets canned, I'm gonna be SOOOOO pissed...)
MechCommander Gold (I'm replaying this game after an entire year)
MechCommander 2 (Once I finish MC Gold, I'm gonna finish this)
And of course, Freespace 1 and 2 :)
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I think Thief 3 is going to suffer from DX: Invisible War syndrome. Titles developed for consoles alongside PCs are seemingly lowered to the abilities of their lowest common denominator.
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But DX:IW is by no means a bad game, it's just not a DX game. Thief3 will rock, I can feel it.
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Escape Velocity Nova (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/) (WARNING: extremely addictive)
Holy f'ing crap. That is addictive :eek2: Awesome game! The text based story is also awesome. It apparently has multiple story lines as well :D
It also has an ST mod:
From EVN website
Starfleet Adventures: Explore the Star Trek universe in the time of Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock as a Starfleet officer exploring strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations, and boldly going where no one has gone before. This alpha version of the highly-anticipated TC is missing a large number of spöb, oütf, and bar descriptions, does not feature any storyline missions, and many of the "Ready Room" missions are still very buggy, but it's very playable with over 100+ ships and more than 1200+ systems and 1300+ worlds to explore. Requires Parts Two-Eight. Make sure you read the Read Me file before installing.
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
Games that I highly enjoyed or am replaying:
Mechwarrior: Mercenaries (The New Battlefields website just came out with a map pack (called "New Battlefields Full Install") with new multiplayer missions and new terrain maps. You can find it here (http://www.newbattlefields.com/files.htm). Warning: It's a HUGE DL: 195Megs! But WELL worth it IMO.)
MechCommander Gold (I'm replaying this game after an entire year)
MechCommander 2 (Once I finish MC Gold, I'm gonna finish this)
And of course, Freespace 1 and 2 :)
Good games all (I removed the ones I haven't played from the list).
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I can respect the fact that you like the game. Good for you. I won't sit back and let you recommend that someone else buy it without giving fair, shrill warning first. Its not fair to them. People shouldn't buy games that are this bad--especially if they live somewhere that doesn't let you return a bad game.
I'll say one thing in defense: it was pushed for the US and AU releases. That is the main reason it turned out the way it is now. As someone who traced the game from concept through development (inactively, as I'm not part of the DevNet) I know what I'm talking about, the players were nearing the point of burst, but the subsequent EU release was already bug-patch. Sometimes, the low quality isn't the producer's error, it's the distributer who forces a game out. Ultima IX being the utmost example.
Unlike with the remaining 90% of the games, X2 patches don't just fix bugs, each of them improves gameplay, AI, trading and game balance, and each of them weighs under 10 MB (which by today's means is nothing even for a 56ker, considering UT patches as a bright example of 30+ MB patches).
BTW, I'll thank you to not cast aspersions at me. Argue the game, not the player, thanks.
Duly noted, though I can't shake the feeling you played the game in it's 1.0 form. Ramming isn't common, I get collisions once in every twenty or so battles. The ships swerve around much more than they did pre-patch (which is even visible when upping to v1.1).
If people can read this debate, they can damn well get the patches. Besides, that's what Demos are for, the X2 playable Demo is already out on every damn magazine.
Re @ SadisticSid[/i]: all I can say is that the interface takes time to get accustomed to - you're free to either like it or not, but until someone shows a better interface for that game specifically, there's no point in slagging it. It was made to work, it works.
:sigh: Anyhow... :sigh:
mikhael[/b] - I'll have to wholeheartedly agree on SystemShock 2. Even after nearly five years, that game still has the shock effect that makes it good for nightlong plays ;) If nothing, it's infinitely replayable - I know it's linear, but changing "class" even slightly makes the game different every time.
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FYI, the guys from the TTLG Forums are going to head up a MOD for, of course, Half Life 2 and re-create System Shock 2, on Earth, with a new storyline and more of System Shock 1 gameplay style. I recommended the engine myself to JediKorichken, since he was heading up The Shock Project. He thought it would be best, and he told me he would have picked it too... especially since the guys over there got to mess around with the HL2 editor...
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A HL2 game mod so soon? All the more reason to save up for that game, it seems. That engine shows a lot of promise, hell, even old Half-Life was modable to the point of creating TCs like Counterstrike or mods like They Hunger.
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FYI, the guys from the TTLG Forums are going to head up a MOD for, of course, Half Life 2 and re-create System Shock 2, on Earth, with a new storyline and more of System Shock 1 gameplay style. I recommended the engine myself to JediKorichken, since he was heading up The Shock Project. He thought it would be best, and he told me he would have picked it too... especially since the guys over there got to mess around with the HL2 editor...
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That's impressive. A double-post 42 minutes apart.
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Woah... I did not mean to do that... :eek2:
I guess when my internet disconnected, and the "Post Message" page didn't load, I hit "post" again and it must have posted.
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
I disagree about Silent Hill. I've played all of them, and in my opinion they've gotten better each game. The story in all of them is fantastic for one thing. Agreed about Hostile Waters though, that game rules.
[color=66ff00]The sequals never gave me that genuine feeling of uneasyness and claustrophobia that came with the original. I still consider the first one to be better than possibly ever horror film I've ever seen, no horror movie has ever made me feel that sad, horrified, or gave me the heebie-jeebies on that level. It's simply awesome.
SS2 was pretty good for chill factor, at no point did I openly walk around in it, pretty much snuck around the entire time and the fact that you could hear enemies before you seen them.
Genuis. :)
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
I think Thief 3 is going to suffer from DX: Invisible War syndrome. Titles developed for consoles alongside PCs are seemingly lowered to the abilities of their lowest common denominator.
Nah. I know the Thief3 AI guy. Crash gives it thumbs up so far, and from the screens he's shown me, I'm pretty well pleased with the look.
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Originally posted by Stealth[cro]
Unlike with the remaining 90% of the games, X2 patches don't just fix bugs, each of them improves gameplay, AI, trading and game balance, and each of them weighs under 10 MB (which by today's means is nothing even for a 56ker, considering UT patches as a bright example of 30+ MB patches).
Duly noted, though I can't shake the feeling you played the game in it's 1.0 form. Ramming isn't common, I get collisions once in every twenty or so battles. The ships swerve around much more than they did pre-patch (which is even visible when upping to v1.1).
I played the game in the initial US release and with the first patch installed. The first patch didn't address the way the game looked, the way the game played, nor did it do anything to fix the horrible horrible story elements or to make looking at anything but the backgrounds bearable.
And what's with the horrible support? They seem to think that asking for a complete keyboard reference (as opposed to what's in the manual) is some sort of mortal sin. They were very, VERY rude in the email exchanges I had with them.
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Did i mention that if you get Clive barker's Undying, purchasing a pair of brown shorts is reccomended. ;)
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That's how I felt about System Shock 2, Turnsky.
The first time I turned around to find a corpse swinging from the ceiling... or when I came around a corner face to face with a Rumbler... or the moment when the spiders started swarming... :scared:
Man, that was a great game. :)
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Originally posted by mikhael
You are correct, sir! It is the finest FPS (First Person Sneaker) ever made. Deus Ex and Thief 1, 2 (and indeed, it looks like 3) come close, but Dx swayed too far to the run and gun style of regular FPS games (especially in the later levels) whilst Thief sways too far to sneaking.
Well I prefer Thief to Deus Ex ( the lack of arguments on that thread seems odd, let me start another one :D ), because the mood in Thief is unatched, because Garret is so much cooler than Denton ( and I won't talk about taht excuse for hero that is... mmh... darn can't even remember the name of the Dex 2 main character. So charismatic you can turn him into a her. Says a lot about how his/her personal story is gonna evolve in the game). I also prefer swords to nanobots, but that's beyond the ponit :)
As for the sneaking thing, well, in Thief you do play a thief, not a warrior ;) ACtually, I heard many complains about too much action in thief 1 ( the monster levels, at the end, or the zombie levels ), resulting in those level disappearing about completly in thief2 ( Tho I completed a couple missions w/o hidding myself, now the sherif's house is a bloodbath :p ).
Voila :D
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I agree with Nico. In the meansof sneaking Thief is the way to go. Allthough in DE one can also progress by sneaking (like I did) but it's just made better in Thief's. That's all.
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Whoever mentioned Clive Barker's Undying is correct: have an extra pair of shorts handy when you play. This is the ONLY game I was too scared to finish, because I can't go on any longer...
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Where could I get Undying now?
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Ebay, most likely. I'm not sure where my buddy got it but he got it from somewhere. I think it was some game store online... damn I forgot where.... I'll ask him and then give you a link.
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Thanks.. I just checked Amazon and it's selling for like 15 beans.
Now that I got this faster computer I wanna see if I can actually play games again. I don't think I can play really new games yet, though, with my geforce 2.
EDIT: I just found it on CompUSA website for $8.96.
What are other scary games to get?
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1) Aliens vs Predator 2
2) System Shock 2
3) Um...
4) Uh...
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Nevermind, Undying is sold for the Mac :(
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It sells for PC too... which website is it selling it for PC?
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It was on amazon for like 15 beans.
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If it's for PC then I recommend buying it. If it's burnable, I'd give you a "@&*^#&()@^&)^)#@" CD of it...
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I'm sure you can find it on budget for a fiver nowadays.
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I'm still confused as to where my friend got it... I don't think they sold it to him because hes underage.
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Anyone wanna get me copy :D
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*cough* sorry, I'd get banned... *cough*
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
FYI, the guys from the TTLG Forums are going to head up a MOD for, of course, Half Life 2 and re-create System Shock 2, on Earth, with a new storyline and more of System Shock 1 gameplay style. I recommended the engine myself to JediKorichken, since he was heading up The Shock Project. He thought it would be best, and he told me he would have picked it too... especially since the guys over there got to mess around with the HL2 editor...
Considering how long The Shock Project has been (or should it be 'was'? I'm not sure it's still alive) in development (late 2000, if I'm not mistaken), I believe we'll have to wait quite a while to have a Shock mod for Half Life 2. And the idea of 'recreating' Shock 2 seems utterly dumb. Why bother trying to make something that will certainly be worse than the original?
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Actually it's more of a System Shock 3. They arent recreating anything, just making a sequal on Earth. As for the Shock Project, it was cancelled not-too-long ago due to the leader going to college, (I know the guy and we talk a lot on AIM, and he deeply regrets any discontinuation) and also the Dark Engine has some major problems with MODing, and you require an inconsistant level editing tool to make levels: 10X harder to learn then the Lithtech DEdit engine for AvP2. Also, a lot of things with designers turning up in fewer numbers, I believe. However, you can download what they HAD worked on for everyone to get. If you stop by the TTGL forums and look around for the Shock Series, I also post there, but go and see in the General Shock Discussion that the project was cancelled.
Very sad indeed...
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
*cough* sorry, I'd get banned... *cough*
So PM me :p
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Originally posted by mikhael
I played the game in the initial US release and with the first patch installed. The first patch didn't address the way the game looked, the way the game played, nor did it do anything to fix the horrible horrible story elements or to make looking at anything but the backgrounds bearable.
The only ship I consider massacred is the Boron Mako, compared to what the old Pirahna looked like back in XT. As for gameplay, well... if you don't like it, either give up on it or mod it. Option 2 is very nice indeed, as there's already a small army of people who redid the whole economy system, reivneted the weaponry, expanded the universe to four times its original size etc... but that's up to you.
And yes, the character cutscenes really suck, no holds barred. But for me, who wasn't lucky enough to enjoy Privateer and can't get his hands on either IWar2 or Tachyon: TF, the X-series is the pinnacle.
And what's with the horrible support? They seem to think that asking for a complete keyboard reference (as opposed to what's in the manual) is some sort of mortal sin. They were very, VERY rude in the email exchanges I had with them.
*shrug* Guess that comes with a) not being a veteran b) not being a "tickydisk" (to prove the validity of your game copy), but not all people are like that.
If nothing, ask me, I'm not that much of a veteran, but I've known the universe for about five years now...
Now, on the topic of SS2 spiders... they should be BANNED. Or incinerated at the very least.