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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: diamondgeezer on April 04, 2004, 06:18:21 pm
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OK, so in the last week I've replayed DX and reminded myself quite how much it rules (in that it rules over all)
So now I have to wonder - should I get DX2 despite the fact that demo was pretty horrible? I mean... maybe I could get used to the dodgy interface and floaty jumping, if it means more uber-RPGing and global conspiracy storylineage. Advice, people! I need advice!
Incidentally - I just noticed that Alex Denton is one of the in-vitro chaps in stasis in the Area 51 labs... what a game :D
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I also noticed that it finds your name from the system somewhere, and puts that on the remaining stasis tank. **** me up, that did.
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DX2 is... well.. hrmm...
Not as good as DX1. The patches fix a lot, but there's a lot of bad design decisions made with the game.
The story isn't quite as good as DX1, as it's a little too blunt and falls into the trap of "Matrix Dialogue." (i.e. trying to use large vocabulary to explain simple things to make the characters seem smarter)
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I say get DX:IW. Ion put out a patch that addresses many of the problems people had with the game, and in either case the demo is unrepresentative of enture game due to the fact that the "choose your path" gameplay can't really be demostrated in a demo.
That, and the community had put out an awesome high detail texture pack and replaced quite a few character skins with *much* improved versions.
And no, I don't have the game, so all of this does not come from first hand experience. My comp can't tun it, but when I get a bettter video card I'll definatley get the game.
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I'm... 'impressed' that it can have, supposedly, three times as many lines of speech and yet a worse plot...
I should note that I am certainly a DX fanboi, but I don't know if that will help or hinder my enjoyment of DX2
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From what I've read, it'll hinder it.
But enough of that, lets just try and name as many DX characters as we can...
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I thought DX2 was pretty good for a game, doesn't compare to DX though.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I'm... 'impressed' that it can have, supposedly, three times as many lines of speech and yet a worse plot...
I should note that I am certainly a DX fanboi, but I don't know if that will help or hinder my enjoyment of DX2
More dialogue doesn't mean that it has a better plot, it just means there's more dialogue :)
The game also lacks a lot of the atmosphere DX1 had, since there's not the E-Mails, Books, etc. Little things that gave background to character and things to see when replaying. Most books in DX2 are in fact ones from DX1.
The full game is much better then the demo though, but it's still no where near as good as the first game. Hell, and some of the things they did (more biomods, no skills) are things I agree with and I still think that they made some big steps backwards.
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I've been playing DX2 on the XBox simply because the demo ran like **** on my computer, even with all the tweaks. It's a good game, but not the same as DX, it's streamlined, which I feel makes it a bit better, but that's because I thought there was too much ****ing around with the inventory in the first one.
Hate to say it but the game has been made for the console over the PC and you can tell from playing both versions. The interface works really well on the 'box and it's absolute crap on the P.C.
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Storywise it's ok, not as good as DX but still interesting, especially when you learn your past (which you'll probably realise before you get told, but hey) and I like the fact that you can choose to work for two different organisations (though I tried to go it alone as much as possible). The main problem I have is finding ammo.
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If you're going to get DX:IW, wait a few months until it hits the bargain bins. Eidos and Ion Storm in no way deserve to be rewarded for utterly gutting DX of everything that made it great.
Oh, and in other news, Ion Storm just fired Randy Smith due to "internal friction". Randy was the project lead for Thief: Deadly Shadows, and was also the lead on the previous Thief games under Looking Glass. This does NOT bode well for how T:DS is shaping up.
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Here's the log of a convo DG, myself and The_Jackal had last night. Much DX fanboi-ness lies within.
JC Bev let's do this thing
JC Bev i'll open withe bidding with: joseph manderley
Bev JC Harley Filben
JC Bev jordan shea
Bev JC Jaime Reyes
JC Bev alex jacobson
Bev JC Gunther Hermann
JC Bev private lloyd
Bev JC Tech Sgt Kaplan
JC Bev cunning
JC Bev leo gold
Bev JC (haven't a clue) Sam Carter
JC Bev tiffany savage
Bev JC Scott
JC Bev gordan quick
Bev JC Janice Reed
JC Bev howard strong
Bev JC Shannon
JC Bev anna navarre
Bev JC El Rey
JC Bev charlie
Bev JC Lenny
JC Bev rock
Bev JC Lebedev
JC Bev lucius debeers
Bev JC Morgan Everett
JC Bev nicolette duclare
Bev JC Pierre, and the guy impersonating him
JC Bev isaac and his brothers
Bev JC Chad
JC Bev jojo fine
Bev JC Johnny
JC Bev janey the ho
Bev JC Sandra Renton
JC Bev gilbert renton
Bev JC The couple ****ing in the room in the 'Ton
JC Bev joe green
Bev JC Jock
JC Bev smuggler
Bev JC Rafael
JC Bev ike
Bev JC Jake
JC Bev walton simons
Bev JC Bob Page
JC Bev curly - incidentally, i beat up simons with me nano sword earlier
Bev JC Stanton Dowd - nicely done
JC Bev ford schick
Bev JC That theiving mechanic in the Metro station
JC Bev mari hela
Bev JC Toby Atanwe
JC Bev max cheng
Bev JC Tracer Tong
JC Bev mai sung
Bev JC Yevgeni
JC Bev vladimir
Bev JC Ivan
JC Bev marty at the door
Bev JC Lawrence
JC Bev destiny savannah
Bev JC Mr Huntley
JC Bev god dammit, i was gonna use him
JC Bev anyway
JC Bev louis pan
Bev JC Irish bloke in VersaLife break room
JC Bev female 'ton hostage
Bev JC Maggie Chow
JC Bev paul denton
Bev JC Many prized Buddhas
JC Bev officer tam
Bev JC Brother Xeng?
JC Bev adept 34501
Bev JC Captain Zhao
JC Bev agent paul jenkins
Bev JC Gary Savage
0JC Bev dodgy mechaninc in everett's gaff
Bev JC I've mentioned him already
Bev JC Icarus
JC Bev no you didn't you used the thieving frecnh mechanic
JC Bev :ha:
Bev JC I said Pierre, and the guy impersonating him. That's the ne
Bev JC one
JC Bev ?
JC Bev since when is the dead guy pierre?
Bev JC You tell Everett about it and he says
JC Bev bah
JC Bev i couldn't be arsed to run back and ask him :D
JC Bev anyway
Bev JC Yes. Daedalus
JC Bev josh
Bev JC Helios
JC Bev xander
Bev JC Morpheus
Bev JC (Aside - Our swooh accounts are appearing in Google)
JC Bev :eek:
JC Bev mercedes
Bev JC Newsstand Vendor
JC Bev ling zhao
Bev JC Um... Sidon
JC Bev that's pushing it a bit
JC Bev song
JC Bev changer of codes
Bev JC Bugger. I'm out
JC Bev w00t
JC Bev this is getting logged
Bev JC Damn right
Bev JC Wait! Corporal Collins
JC Bev bah
JC Bev ok...
JC Bev um...
JC Bev xavier
Bev JC Tube station hooker
JC Bev two riot cops standing doing nothing while sandra is being roughed up about twenty paces away
Bev JC O
JC Bev renault
Bev JC Arthur
JC Bev guy
Bev JC Claude? Oh sorry, my mistake
JC Bev club owner
Bev JC Dammit, he was my next. ok Dancing nurse/novelist *****
JC Bev [url]http://www.weebls-stuff.com/forums/random/evoluted.net/stuff/theimages/room.jpg/room1.jpg/room2.jpg[/url]
JC Bev that's not my turn, btw
JC Bev two lesbian birds in the lucky money
Bev JC "I'm not your type" bloke
JC Bev former quick stop cashier
Bev JC Mama san
JC Bev hardware-selling bum outside abandoned gas station
Bev JC Female bum with him
JC Bev this is odd: [url]http://www.weebls-stuff.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10039[/url]
Bev JC I'm bringing a spectator
Kolya | Ooooh... has been added to the conversation.
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... everett's maid, whos name escapes me
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Everett's fish. All of em
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... everett's cat
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC French copper who doesn't care about the thieving mechanic
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... are you getting mario and dolphins?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC I am, odd that
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC ...?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... hostel manager
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Dowd's bloke on the gate
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... ami, she of the many cats
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC (I'm going to list her cats now)
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Mimi
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Lesbians in club
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... we've had them
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... michelle
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC ****it..
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Mabre
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... tony maires, whose name i cannot spell
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC French family in the cafe arguing about their son
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... dr pinkerton
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC French bum in Bunker 2
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... chef in cathedral basement
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Kristi
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... agent kyrano
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC "I know ze basroom is unisex, but just wait a minute, won't you?"
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... "je suis malade. je suis epileptiaue"
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Bloke in La Porte de l'Enfer who's selling Bioelectric Cells
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... rene. as in O saying 'oh, rene'
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... which for some reason i never noticed before yesterdsay
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC The Zyme dealer, Raymonde?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Nice
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... renault
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... he's bin done
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Ah
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Chef's assistant, Raymonde
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC I guess it doesn't help not knowing which have already been said...
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... true
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Arms dealer, lives next door to O and Rene
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... nicolette's firends downstairs in the club
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Have you done JJ?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... natch
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Thought I'd ask..
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC The baker with the zyme in his oven
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... doctor arguing with a bum
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Raphael and Jake?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC "Vectors, the vectors are all wrong"
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Done them
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Jake sounded suspiciously like Walton Simons, so I shot him.
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... laughing bum in the versa life labs
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Miguel
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... trooper talking to shannon
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Electrcian on the PRCS Wall Cloud
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC The what?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... suited chap downstairs in the big long red hall at versa life
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Marine in the bar who's come to fine Sandra
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC *find
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... you mean vinny?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC That's the one
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Bum getting mugged on the basketball court in Hell's Kitchen
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC There were two
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... rook who let's you know you're on rook territory
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Female Rook who says "Wassap"
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... female rook who says 'you ain't all that'
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC The one I shot?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Hobo who says "Back off man"
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Hobo singing the national anthem in Battery park
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... "stay out of the 'ton, bor. bad **** goin' down"
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Hehe
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC "Somebody kill me, anybody"
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC have you said the kid on the dock?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Think so
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... josh
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... yes
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC "I need something in my stomach so I can fall asl*thwack with crowbar*
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Ling
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... ling zhao?
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC "That did it, hahahahaha!" said I
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC There's anther ling, I think. One of the Mamasan's *****es
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Schoolgirl in Tonnochi Road
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Queen's Tower receptionist
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... [url]http://www.****flap.com/[/url]
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Dammit, I was about to say the receptionist
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... female bum in queens tower floor under renovation
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Sampan woman
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Fisherman in the canals
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Dead vier
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC *diver
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Drug dealer and pusher in the canals
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC "Greedy green greasels" woman?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Had her
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC I bet you have, randy bugger..
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... dude who think's you're paul in the old china hand
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC I was about to pop a blister with the pin of my Homebase name badge. I realised after half an inch went in that I'd burrowed under the blister and into my toe
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC bartend in the Old China Hand
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Whore in the Old China Hand
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC "Sure, I don't mind needles"
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... wan-chai tea house owner
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC What about the disgruntled supermarket employee?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... had him
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC ****sake..
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC How long have you been at this?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Two VersaLife employees in the Lucky Money
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... bout half an hour
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC No wonder they've all gone
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... bird by the bar in lucky money buttering up loser bloke
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Barfly
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... yes
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Boris
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... goth bird in wan-chai market
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC "Hand-painted China, very authentic"
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC THe messenger-kid
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Had him
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Thought as much
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC His twin, the French kid in Silhouette's bunker
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Mmm
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Versalife woman buying flowers in Wan Chai market
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... french kid's hostage mother
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Nervous Worker at Versalife
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Buggery, you've made me do it now
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Oh no...
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC NYET!
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC I gave the DX disk to Simon, ages ago
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC You silly sod
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC He never played the ****ing thing, because it didn't have Nazis or Nips in it
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... ah-ha! private winslow
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Well, it does, but he couldn't see
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Kaplan?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Yes
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Carter?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Yes
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Cash?
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Wait..
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC ****sake, this no-disk thing really has me annoyed now
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC ****er comes back tomorrow evening. I'll be at his door first thing Tuesday morning asking for it back
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Damn right
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC MiB who killed JC's parents
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... mechanic who gives you the aquinas hub code, who tends to die when the MiB next to him dies and blows up
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Mechanic who tries to stop you powering up the reactors
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC The one who sabotages the helicopter
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC "A bomb!"
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Had him
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Worth mentioning twice though
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Two mechanics in the submarine base talking about the Union, Walton Simons, and hand-injuries
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... mechanic selling hardwrae in mj12 base under liberty island
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Sailors with Alabama accents on the Wall Cloud
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... we're scraping the bottom tof the barrel now, aren't we?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC We are
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... vinny's buddies
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC The liquor wholesaler who supplies the Lucky Money
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Osgood and his Sons
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... oh come on
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC The necrophiliac who lives 3 blocks from the cemetary
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... dude whose wife has grey death
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Wife whose dude has Grey Death but was really syph
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC "Not advisable for a toursist to visit the canals at night"
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... ok, nuff of this. new game
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... username: jmanderley. passowrd?
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Ooh! ooh!
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC knight_killer
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... now you ask me a name
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC jreed
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Name of the liquor
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... redshoes
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC ghermann
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... ajacobson
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC calvo
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... zeitgeist
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Cold Sweat actually
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Not that anyone cares *sobs*
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Gunther's kill phrase
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... laputan machine
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Laputian Ma- that
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Anna's kill phrase
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... flatlander woman
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Flatlander Wom- yes
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... :ha:
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Bollocks ye, I've only completed it once, and that was on my old 311mhz
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC JC's password at Tong's place
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... sanctuary
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC scarter
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... antique
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... klloyd
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC No idea
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... target
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Who was klloyd?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... comms chack code an unatco building?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC 0451?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... :D
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC brb, I need to check that's that's not also something else
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... um... yes
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC It is 0451
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... it is indeed
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... code to activate the bots at vandenburg?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC I was worried that it was my PIN
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC p13453?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Smuggler's password?
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Bloodshot
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Mole People password
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... underworld
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC Giro
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... remember thaty when you see curly, he lets people in
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Filben's password?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... iron and copper
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... the staute is iron on a copper frame, right?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC My dad did tours out there
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC And his dad, and his dad...
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC login and password for the NSF security systems in the Lady?
Kolya | Ooooh... Bev, JC smashthestate was the password
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... nsf001 smashthestate
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... unatco_001 password?
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC Is that the comm van?
JC Bev, Kolya | Ooooh... yep
Bev Kolya | Ooooh..., JC mmm
Kolya | Ooooh... has left the conversation.
Bev JC nope, it's escaped me
JC Bev satcomm
Bev JC gah
JC Bev maggie chow's old and new passwords
Bev JC Dunno
JC Bev tai-fun and insurgent
JC Bev woo, I'm winning
Bev JC Jock's login and password in his apartment
JC Bev aargh, god dammit i know this
JC Bev something starting with h
JC Bev jflanagen
JC Bev **** it
Bev JC flyboy 5X5
JC Bev er... yes
JC Bev anhway
JC Bev code for versa life back door?
Bev JC Has a lot of 5s
Bev JC 55655?
JC Bev 55655 indeed
JC Bev pair the augs in a canister: auqa lung and...
Bev JC radioactive resistance thing?
JC Bev close enough
Bev JC To say it was a blind guess...
JC Bev spy drone and...?
Bev JC agressive defence system?
JC Bev woot
JC Bev ok, nuff. need bread
Bev JC Right you are. ttfn
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Oypella? Or however its bloody spelt.
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Firing Squad had a very good review about DX:IW.
It sums up all I could say in the topic: "Deus-Ex was an experience with a lot of shortcommings as a game, DX2 on the other hand is a "just"a game."
The fact that the PC UI was so screwed up is a shame though.
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Hmm, I got Deus Ex sitting on my computer desk. I've never played it, my old computer would chug slowly with it... Maybe I should pop it in the 2400 and give it a go? Have I been missing out on a really good game?
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
Hmm, I got Deus Ex sitting on my computer desk. I've never played it, my old computer would chug slowly with it... Maybe I should pop it in the 2400 and give it a go? Have I been missing out on a really good game?
yes.
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Is Deus Ex a good game? Have you been living under a rock for the last four years?
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Is Deus Ex a good game? Have you been living under a rock for the last four years?
i'd have to agree, i didn't get the GOTY for nothing..:p
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Is Deus Ex a good game? Have you been living under a rock for the last four years?
Well, seeing how I gave it to my brother in law for x-mas a few years ago, I know about the game. And I've heard from people who have played say that it's a great game. Plus hearing you guys rave about it. But since my old computer couldn't really play it, I just had to take everyones word for it.
On a side note, I went home for lunch and tried to install the game. After few complaints, it finally got installed. So I'll play it :) Give me a cookie.
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I would love play DX again but it's works too fast (Yes you heard everything just moves fast) and I don't know proplem
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Make sure you (both of you) have the latest patch.
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Yeah, I downloaded the 35 meg patch last night before heading home. Didn't get to play it yesterday cuz my girlfriend was with me.
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Did they ever finish that DX(1) co-op mod?