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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: USS Alexander on April 05, 2004, 12:14:13 pm
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Well can't play freespace anymore:( Well not normal, with good graphic's, the screen is all mest up and the texture's are all weird, i have no idea why, so does anyone has/had the same problem?
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Your fault for buying a flatscreen.
CRTs 0wn any flatscreens.
Problem with a flatscreen is, it has one native resolution (1280x1024 on modern ones) which looks good on it, it interpolates any other resolutions. If its divided by 2 (640x512 for example) it would look good again. But Freespace, i'm afraid uses either 640x480 or 1024x768 - both no good for a 1280x1024 flatscreen.
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are flatscreens still lousy in terms of clarity? The ones they buy here at work are blurry as hell.
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Ah well, the tft screen saves space:), only one way to play it now....time to take out the 19inch crt out of my closet.
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flat screens = crap
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my laptop TFT is just as clear as my desktop CRT, and is a lot softer on me eyes.
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
are flatscreens still lousy in terms of clarity? The ones they buy here at work are blurry as hell.
Make sure you're set at the optimal resolution. We had a bunch of them set the wrong way at work this past summer, made them look aweful; blurry, grainy, just not fun to look at. Adjusted the resolution and they cleared right up. My gripe with them is that their refresh rate is too low.
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I have a flatscreen :(
Haven't tried FS2 yet, I'm afraid it will look all ****ed up. Time to resurrect the old screen then.
Note: this is L17T. It's ****tier than hell. Never, ever buy a Hyundai L17T. Never.
Edit: Just checked out SCP env build with it. Well, whoa.
First of all, I have to manually set the resolution at Windows, not a big deal. Then I look at the main screen and almost start to cry, "what have you done to my FS?!?"
Then I turn on the game and wet my pants. It just looks so much smoother and better with it, I can't tell why. Texts in Win are ****ed up in 1072x768 whatever, but look NICE NICE NICE in the game (missions). Maybe that was just because I hadn't tried the Env Build throughly yet.
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What is wrong with flatscreens? :(
They save space and the graphics appear nicer. Even FS2 rules in them. ;7
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The saving space argument I've never taken very seriously. I've got plenty of room around my screen as it stands, and it's full of so much junk I can't find my mouse half the time. Flatscreens just mean a bigger surface area to collect junk, and more that I have to look through to find stuff I need. CRT all the way ;)
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TFT:
* one good-looking resolution - 999 crappy looking resolutions
* incredibly slow refresh
* view angle limited
* Welcome Mr. Moiré
CRT:
* All resolutions look fine
* fast(er) refresh rates
* full view angle
* takes up slightly more space
* soft image, no moiré on good monitors
guess... what wins? :)
TFT is good if you ONLY use business applications. But as soon as you want to run different resolutions (i.e. play games) you're screwed.
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exactly LS
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Your fault for buying a flatscreen.
CRTs 0wn any flatscreens.
Problem with a flatscreen is, it has one native resolution (1280x1024 on modern ones) which looks good on it, it interpolates any other resolutions. If its divided by 2 (640x512 for example) it would look good again. But Freespace, i'm afraid uses either 640x480 or 1024x768 - both no good for a 1280x1024 flatscreen.
my solution?.. buy a pureflat CRT screen
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Still waiting for the day that LCD's (or something similar) finally can replace my good ole CRT. At the moment LCD's are fantastic for office applications (the good quality ones anyways) but with games and multiple resolutions....you need something that can do that sort of thing and we just don't have it yet...
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We needed a flatscreen for the space up here, but if i was in charge i wouldnt have payed the 200 for the pos. Unless ur desperate for space or you have like $700 to buy a top-of-the line flatscreen dont bother wasting your money
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Your fault for buying a flatscreen.
CRTs 0wn any flatscreens.
Problem with a flatscreen is, it has one native resolution (1280x1024 on modern ones) which looks good on it, it interpolates any other resolutions. If its divided by 2 (640x512 for example) it would look good again. But Freespace, i'm afraid uses either 640x480 or 1024x768 - both no good for a 1280x1024 flatscreen.
:no::nod:
Unfortunately so. That's one of the major reasons why I decided not to buy a laptop, because of the limitations of a TFT.
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indeed, TFT's don't like photoshop much either.
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i really don't see the issues with TFT panels. I use my laptop in school, and at home, basicly all the time when i'm not asleep, eating or driving from school to home. A TFT has a much more soft image compared to a CRT. It saves me quite a few headaches. I also do PSP work on it, it does so rather well, the only reason i don't use it for big stuff is because i only have one trackball, and that is hooked up to my desktop. as for games, my dad won't let me put any on it, because he is afraid i'll play them in class. (imagine FS with a glidepad?)
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TFT/LCD will never replace CRT displays. Maybe OLED will, but that's gonna be another couple of years (fortunately).
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Seems like it depends what you want to do with it then - in an office environment where I only switch between Windows applications, a flat screen is ideal because it takes up less space and the res/response times don't matter.
If only CRT monitors were less deep / heavy. They suck for lanning :doubt:
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that, and e-books on a CRT? imagine the sheer migraines.
i can't wait till they get those e-paper thingy's down to an accetaple price, and let them read HTML/plain ASCII. i don't need no animated stuff or colour, pure B&W will do.
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I don't have any problem's with other games, the others loo kawesome on my tft, like morrowind, farcry enz only game that f***s up is fs, thorn said to me once that it's because of refresh rate.
i use all kinds of app all 3d package's i have work fine, and ps also, the angle is a minor point yes.
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I don't know what TFT's you buy, but every game I have works fine on my one and I play game ranging from the newest one to old dos games....and I haven't encountered any problems with it.
And the TFT is a real cheap one...
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
TFT:
* one good-looking resolution - 999 crappy looking resolutions
* incredibly slow refresh
* view angle limited
I Tend to Disagree:
* Resolutions work perfectly fine on LCDs now, there is a limited blurriness and only on resolutions other than the maximum one :nod:.
* The refresh rate is not slow, its exactly the same as a CRT, as a matter of fact my Viewsonic VG700 (17") goes up to 75Hz for 1280*1024, differences are minimal from 60Hz through to 75Hz for LCDs. What your probably referring to is the response time, mine is 16ms which is very good for gaming. While older ones still have the 20ms or 25ms, Samsung has recently brought out a 10ms LCD Display.
* Viewing angles, really old news... AFAIK LCDs of this time having viewing angles just as good if not better than CRTs.
Originally posted by Lightspeed
CRT:
* All resolutions look fine
* fast(er) refresh rates
* full view angle
* takes up slightly more space
* soft image, no moiré on good monitors
Some truth in this:
* Resolutions tend to look ok
* Refresh rates, in CRT technology this is something important but in LCDs it doesn't have much of an effect.
* Viewing angles - useless argument, both CRT and LCD are similar if not the same
* Space with CRTs is a big thing for some people.
* Soft Image, more like sharper, LCDs tend to only display a sharper image on the fixed resolution.
* Another dis I thought I'd mention CRTs produce more heat, use more power and produce radiation.
I also came across some information from Sony, there discontinuing production on their 21" CRTs and closing the production plants down for a overhaul. They will now be focusing on the LCD Technology. For those who live in Australia, the stock of Sony monitors that exist here now will not be replenished.
Originally posted by Lightspeed
CRT:
guess... what wins? :)
TFT is good if you ONLY use business applications. But as soon as you want to run different resolutions (i.e. play games) you're screwed.
Your judging this on what? I can understand low resolutions like 640*480 or 800*600 but anything higher runs fine. LCDs/TFTs are now becoming standard. Hopefully another technology better than LCDs will come along in time (Plasma is not anywhere near perfect!) :D