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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: an0n on April 13, 2004, 03:14:52 am

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: an0n on April 13, 2004, 03:14:52 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3621169.stm

I swear to God, the stupidity of some of these crackheads who scribble up new laws so they can pretend like they deserve their 12-figure salaries is truly astounding.


If people know Google are scanning their ****, I don't see what the problem is. Google aren't divulging the contents of the e-mail to anyone, hell they probably aren't even reading them themselves. And is it not better to have ads tailored to **** you need rather than the MSN-syndrome of being bludgeoned to e-death by ads for porn and vaginal thrush creams?

If I had a hammer I'd cave these people's ****ing heads in.

Google are giving people free **** and they're *****ing about it.

The last ounce of respect I had for mankind just went floating off into the ocean of Dontgivea****, along with my self control and all that child porn I deleted a few hours ago.

Goddamn, crappy-ass government dickheads.

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: Fineus on April 13, 2004, 03:25:57 am

You're forgetting? (leaving out?) the fact that the likes of Hotmail probably already have agreements with god knows how many corporations, marketting departments, governments and so on... G-Mail is "teh Communist idea that musst be opppressed!!111oneone". It's direct competition but its better and so they're scared people will drop everything and go for it instead.

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: Tiara on April 13, 2004, 04:39:03 am

Well, let them ban it in Cali-f*ckin'-fornia. As long as they don't try that **** here.

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: beatspete on April 13, 2004, 04:39:12 am

TV channels have been doing this for ages.  If your watching a motoring program ie Top Gear on UK Horizons (cause there's no adverts on BBC2 :D)  then the advertising breaks are probably going to contain more car and men's product related adverts. Same for a cookery show, more adverts for George Foreman grills. Toy adverts during cartoons.


Advertising products relevant to a email, tv show's, whatever's content is powerful advertising, but i don't see whats wrong with it.  No-one makes you buy the products.  If your stupid enough to spend all your money on Mc Flurries after seeing a McDonnalds advert in an email your friends sent you about their favourite foods - your too stupid to deserve to be on the intardnet.

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: Setekh on April 13, 2004, 05:49:56 am

Those arses. I'm really looking forward to Gmail, too - I empathise with your indignation. :mad: ;)

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: J3Vr6 on April 13, 2004, 07:57:08 am

Kinda scary, though, that they scan your e-mails and you can never delete your e-mails.... Then again, what's to say yahoo or hotmail deletes your emails anyway when you select it.

I'm indifferent on the whole situation.  Apparently Microsoft has some pretty big lobbyist in California to curb any strong competition.

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: Drew on April 13, 2004, 10:05:15 am

phh MS lobbying calif, that would be interesting, ill have to look that up

The gvt shouldnt be banning email just because it violates privacy. Gmail is a private subscription service; if you dont want a bot to look at your mail, dont subscribe to it. THis is realyl messed up cuz the state of california will readily violate a citizens privacy; but then turn around a ***** on companies because the "violate someones privacy". Actually, if california banned Gmail, you could go as far to say california violated its citizens privacy by not letting them choose a voluntary subscription service.

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: Stunaep on April 13, 2004, 10:06:12 am

yeah, well, I've got gamespy, so **** that anyway.

I never actually got the point. Why would I need a 1 GB e-mail account anyway.

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: Arc on April 13, 2004, 10:09:04 am

Thing is, Hotmail alters urls in your emails so it can put that annoying "You viewing a page outside of Hotmail" bar at the top of the window. The new url goes through a Hotmail server, so surely it's possible for Hotmail to record every link you open? If Google is potentially invading privacy with their scheme, who's to say MS aren't potentially doing the same?

The cynic in me finds it interesting that a service of this type that so many people were looking forward to would suddenly have privacy concerns, especially when no-one seems to have the same concerns about other web mail services. :doubt:  We all use them (Hotmail, Yahoo, etc, etc) but there's no way we know for certain that our emails aren't being read by someone else.

I suppose it really comes down to this: If you're that worried about your privacy, why are you using a free opt-in web mail service in the first place?

Title: G-Mail pwned by dickheads
Post by: Drew on April 13, 2004, 10:11:26 am

good lord, i went and looked up the microsft lobby officer in califonia

theres only 1, but
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Employers/Detail.aspx?id=1145764&session=2003
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Employers/Detail.aspx?id=1145764&session=2003&view=activity

somthing like $200000 in gifts made

as opposed to maccyDs
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Employers/Detail.aspx?id=1245114&session=2003&view=activity

coka cola
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Employers/Detail.aspx?id=1142965&view=activity&session=2003

and exxon mobile
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Lobbying/Employers/Detail.aspx?id=1146592&session=2003&view=activity



ooo.. i just checked the context of the bills they sponsored, its all like online privacy and anti-spam, nothing to do with google :P
just noticed, its a draft bill. Ill be watching this thing for you guys :P