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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 04:17:23 am
:lol: Ahahahahah! :lol:

My mother just got back from the town with some bits of food, some parcels and, most importantly, the Northern Echo.

She's sat reading it for like 5 minutes and, all of a sudden, shouts: "What the ****!?".

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A warrant for arrest without bail was yesterday issued for Donna Hart of [CENSORED] for failing to appear at court to answer charges of stealing food from the Safeway supermarket.

That just made my whole day.

I ****ing hate my sister and this is quite possibly the best news I'm likely to get for a helluva long time.

:lol: :lol:
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Post by: kode on April 14, 2004, 04:39:49 am
congrats, then. I guess...
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Post by: Corhellion on April 14, 2004, 04:54:03 am
...wait...

*think*....So...Is your sister married...if she isn't that would make your last name Hart...

...An0n is Mr. Hart?!?!

...Oh the irony...
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 04:55:15 am
I'm Tony Hart. If you make any jokes or comments or post any pictures of old men who like art, I will tear you a new arsehole and fill it with salt.
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Post by: Corhellion on April 14, 2004, 05:03:56 am
er...no...

Let's see if I can explain it to you in a simple way...

...You make fun of people, and basically act like you don't have a heart...but...your last name is Hart...that's why it's funny for me...oy...

...and wtf is up with the old men who like art dealy? I'm not into that crap, but whatever floats your boat man.
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 05:06:01 am
A 'hart' is a male deer. Don't make me get woodland-ethnic on yo' ass.
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Post by: Corhellion on April 14, 2004, 05:09:05 am
*gives up and walks away from thread*
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Post by: HotSnoJ on April 14, 2004, 05:16:38 am
An0n? Hart? That's quite interesting, not only because of the irony (or at least that I can see), but also because I have some relatives who have the last name "Hart".
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Post by: Tiara on April 14, 2004, 05:33:55 am
Hart = heart in Dutch :p Yeah, that suits you, an0n... not... :p
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 05:34:31 am
Yes. My network of operatives is quite extensive.

Did I say operatives? I meant....err....'special friends'.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 14, 2004, 05:44:08 am
I was going to link to a pic of yon Morph-related Tony Hart, but I can't find one...
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Post by: aldo_14 on April 14, 2004, 05:58:09 am
Look harder
(http://www.bckorea.or.kr/images/arts/2nd_animation/morph.jpg)
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Post by: kasperl on April 14, 2004, 05:58:46 am
Ok, the name is ironic, but isn't it a bit disturbing he is:
1) happy with his sister being arrested
2) it being for stealing from Safeway, of all possible crimes
3) hears from his sisters pending arrest through a newspaper.

btw, does your sister know?
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Post by: beatspete on April 14, 2004, 05:59:15 am
Heh... 'Tony Hart'. Thats the 2nd best highlight of my day so far.

...the first being seeing a certian hot girl on the way down to uni.

Anyway, yeah, local newspapers always have the funniest stories.
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Post by: J3Vr6 on April 14, 2004, 08:15:28 am
Hart?  Any relation to...

(http://www.tvofyourlife.com/images/harttohartpic.jpg)




:)
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 14, 2004, 08:31:35 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Look harder
(http://www.bckorea.or.kr/images/arts/2nd_animation/morph.jpg)


Oh yes, Morph's easy enough to find, I mean the old man himself.
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Post by: Ghostavo on April 14, 2004, 08:52:11 am
Brotherly love... aw... how cute!! :D
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Post by: aldo_14 on April 14, 2004, 09:11:48 am
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB


Oh yes, Morph's easy enough to find, I mean the old man himself.


http://www.tonyhart.co.uk/

:nod:

EDIT; et....voila!

(http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/microsites/kids_night_in/images/Tony_Hart.jpg)
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Post by: TopAce on April 14, 2004, 09:15:53 am
I had a look at a dictionary, is it true that the word 'Hart' means an animal?
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Post by: Kazan on April 14, 2004, 09:19:34 am
Hart = Buck
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Post by: Carl on April 14, 2004, 09:34:57 am
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Originally posted by an0n
A 'hart' is a male deer.
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Post by: 01010 on April 14, 2004, 11:53:49 am
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Originally posted by an0n
I'm Tony Hart. If you make any jokes or comments or post any pictures of old men who like art, I will tear you a new arsehole and fill it with salt.


Your joking right? Tony Hart was like the coolest mother****er of an artist in the world, HE INVENTED MORPH and therefore you should be revered for sharing a name with him.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 14, 2004, 12:13:02 pm
Rolf Harris would be him in a fight, though.

Although I don't know where that would leave Neil Buchanan...
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 12:19:04 pm
Holding the oranges.
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Post by: Rictor on April 14, 2004, 12:26:18 pm
The cops are after your sister for stealing food, and you think this is...funny?

:blah: :blah:

Right, thats just downright mean. Presumably, she's stealing food 'cause she ain't getting fed at home or wherever.
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 12:45:13 pm
Yeah, that's cold even for you an0n.  If it were my sister, I'd be a little more concerned and probably try to find her before the cops did.  It doesn't matter what petty reason you have for hating her, she's your sister, family should be stronger than that.
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Post by: Nico on April 14, 2004, 12:52:29 pm
Depends, really.
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 12:54:57 pm
Hmmmmmmmmm....An0n may well have a bloody good reason for hating his sister, I don't know his life, so I'm not even going to try and judge. But I've seen enough people in my line of work who have incredibly good reasons to hate their family.

Besides, this is the UK, it's not as if she's going to get anything more than a suspended sentence or possibly community service.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 14, 2004, 01:08:07 pm
Y'all stop judging an0n's attitude towards his sister right now. If half the stuff he posts about his family is true, he's got good reason to be laughing.
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Post by: ionia23 on April 14, 2004, 01:11:54 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor
The cops are after your sister for stealing food, and you think this is...funny?

:blah: :blah:

Right, thats just downright mean. Presumably, she's stealing food 'cause she ain't getting fed at home or wherever.


No, it's so she can feed all the poor innocent Iraqis that evil capitalists like myself are blowing up on a daily basis...

to make ground beef..

to be sold in Safeways across the country...

Symmetry.

Hart to Hart.
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Post by: kasperl on April 14, 2004, 01:24:21 pm
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Y'all stop judging an0n's attitude towards his sister right now. If half the stuff he posts about his family is true, he's got good reason to be laughing.


well, depends. If half he said about his family is true he generally has no reason to be laughing, only at this moment.........
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Post by: Rictor on April 14, 2004, 01:29:33 pm
I wasn't aware he posted anything regarding his family life. Or if indeed he did, I would be inclined to disbelieve it.

I've never had the whole "hate you parents, hate your siblings" stuff that seems to be so popular in North American (and European) teenagers. I don't know if its cool or something to hate your family, who knows. Maybe my experience is not typical, but I love my family and would do pretty much anything for them.
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 01:32:15 pm
Ditto:nod:

You can hate what they do, you can hate what they are, but I can't think of anything that would make me actually hate my family.  

If they got addicted to drugs or alcohol I would try and help them stop, if they were running around on their spouses I would try and help them stop.  If they have a problem of some kind, I would try and help, that's why it's a Family, this goes fo my extended family too, though I would be more delicate.  A family is more than just a bunch of people who happen to be related to each other living together, it's a bond that exists beyond the norm.
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 01:33:37 pm
I work with kids who have fathers who put cigarettes out in the faces 'for a laugh'. I work with kids who's mother bring home a different partner every night, often kicking the kids onto the streets in the process. I work with kids who have been sexually, physically, emotionally and intellectually abused by the very people they are supposed to be able to turn to. I don't think this is very cool either.

I agree that the family unit should be the strongest, but to be honest, the world just isn't like that.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 14, 2004, 01:35:32 pm
Ditto
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Post by: Stunaep on April 14, 2004, 01:41:09 pm
So, what you are implying, is that An0n/Tony is sexually, physically, emotionally and intellectually  abused?

That thought is strangely pleasing.
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Post by: Rictor on April 14, 2004, 01:44:02 pm
Flipside, what do you do if you don't mind me asking? Sounds like social worker of some sort.

I agree, there are alot of terrible people who are also parants, and that just leaves the kids in a very bad spot. Though there may be exceptions, I believe that when I grown man/woman decides to beat on their kids and worse, they deserve to be paid a visit by a large group of burly men with baseball bats. The 6 months in hospital ought to be enough for them to rethink their position.
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 01:44:36 pm
LOL What I'm implying is that there a lot of ways in the world to make someone hate you. It's actually very rare for someone to 'just' hate someone else without reason.

Ric : I work in a Training Provider, we train kids that have not made it into college or are unable to continue at school, in trades like Administration, Hairdressing etc. It gives them a second roll of the dice, as it were. Often the job isn't unlike Social Work.  ;)
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 01:47:15 pm
Flipside, your veiw is slightly skewed because of your employment, in point of fact most(probably greater than 95%) of Families aren't like that.  

IMO, in the situations you outlined, the children should be removed and given to a more stable couple, not a single parent, a monogamous, heterosexual couple.  Children, boys in particular, need Fathers.  

I loathe what the "Women's Liberation" is trying to do to the traditional, Nuclear Family.  They are telling women that they don't need men to live a happy and fulfilled life, but every married woman I've ever talked to says they are happier now than they ever were before they wed.  This is why you date for more than a year before considering marriage, so you know what you are getting before you sign such a permanent agreement.

Sorry, I seem to have run off at the mouth again. :sigh:
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Post by: aldo_14 on April 14, 2004, 01:48:12 pm
On one side;
She's Family

On the other side;
She's also a thieving gypsy*

*no offence to genuine pikies/gypsies, it's only an expression.  Altho i'm not sure how one would get a cable into a caravan to get onto yon ninternet, but nevermind.
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 01:54:58 pm
LOL True, my view is skewed, and the worst part is, in the case of the kids being kicked out onto the street, the parent is at home doing coke and ignoring her child, and the child often gets picked up, since a teenager out at night automatically looks suspicious, it's something in the hormones :(

I do agree that Family is important. I get on wonderfully with both my brothers and my parents, something I have been grateful for on more than one occasion.

Why does 'Nuclear Family' make me think of people glowing in the dark? ;)

As for the single/married/gay/hetero thing, I don't really know enough about outcomes to make a judgement, I know our opinions collide on Gay marraige, so I'll leave that alone, but as far as raising a child is concerned, I must admit to be inclined to think a child needs, where possible, a masculine AND a feminine influence on their lives. But that is as far as I'll stick my neck out on that till I've done my homework ;)

Edit : Also, consider this, even if only 2% of people are abused in one way or another, that still means it only statistically needs 50 people on HLP for one of them to be one of those people :)
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Post by: Kazan on April 14, 2004, 01:59:47 pm
Liberator you didn't not just attack "Women's Liberation"

You are soo full of **** - they say no such thing -- Women's liberation is about EQUAL TREATEMENT - saying "you don't need to define happiness as having a man" is different from saying "You shouldn't have a man"

It's about equal responsibilities for both parents/adults - ie both cook, both clean, etc - instead of these stupid gender roles.  You know what my girlfriend normally does do the cooking, because she's better at it-  i normally do the cleaning, because i can do it really fast and efficiently.  We take turns doing the fish stuff (except for equipement construction and management: that's my job) because we're equally good at it.


"Womens Liberation" is not attacking the nuclear family - it's attacking sexism and stereotyping, it's attacking women being told they're not worth anything without a man, it's attacking women being paid less than $0.75 for every dollar a man in the same position, often with less ability, receives


Before attacking something liberator you should probably know WTF you're talking about
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Post by: aldo_14 on April 14, 2004, 02:07:36 pm
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Originally posted by Kazan
Liberator you didn't not just attack "Women's Liberation"

You are soo full of **** - they say no such thing -- Women's liberation is about EQUAL TREATEMENT - saying "you don't need to define happiness as having a man" is different from saying "You shouldn't have a man"

It's about equal responsibilities for both parents/adults - ie both cook, both clean, etc - instead of these stupid gender roles.  You know what my girlfriend normally does do the cooking, because she's better at it-  i normally do the cleaning, because i can do it really fast and efficiently.  We take turns doing the fish stuff (except for equipement construction and management: that's my job) because we're equally good at it.


"Womens Liberation" is not attacking the nuclear family - it's attacking sexism and stereotyping, it's attacking women being told they're not worth anything without a man, it's attacking women being paid less than $0.75 for every dollar a man in the same position, often with less ability, receives


Before attacking something liberator you should probably know WTF you're talking about


:rolleyes:  :nod:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 14, 2004, 02:53:07 pm
All this thread needs is for someone to set the Take Hart theme playing...
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 02:54:31 pm
Time for the Gallery!

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,22680.0.html

:D
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 03:30:25 pm
Kazan, I will agree with you that women can do almost everything as well as men and that, in the past, the Women's Lib Movement has acheived good things both for women and men, they have in recent years been perverted.  

There are some situations where a woman's presence is disruptive, on the battlefield for instance.  In a squad of big guys who are in peak physical condition, a woman is not going to be able, physically, to do what they do.  There are exceptions, of course, but make no mistake, they are the exception not the rule.  No matter how hard you try to train it out of them, a man is going to do his utmost to protect a woman in that kind of situation, probably getting himself killied in the process.

I don't want to debate this with you because we are so close together on most of it.
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 03:30:41 pm
My Sister:
She's a heroin addict, a cleptomaniac, a liar, a general thief, a pot smoker, an idiot and a snide, evil *****.

She'll come around every goddamn day, wasted off her ****ing ass on booze, heroin, weed and valium, borrow money off my mother or grandmother because "We've got no gas and we'll freeze" then she'll **** off and a few hours later my brother will see her down town sitting in the pub, smoking, drinking and eating the remnants of a McDonalds and talking to her boyfriend about how easy it'd be to go to Amsterdam for the weekend and bring back a sack of weed.

My mom gives my niece all the spare change she has for a piggy-bank. She must've given her like £20 in 10p's and 50's and £1's. Then one time when my dad was 'round my sisters house he looked in the piggy-bank (because he trusts my sister about as little as I do) and it had like £1 in 2's and 1's. He asked my niece where it all went and she said "Mam and Robbie stole it all because they're evil". Even my 4 year old niece doesn't trust her; She insists on leaving any money that anyone gives her 'round here so her mother can't steal it.

I hate my sister and her loser boyfriend infinitely more than the rest of my family, and twice me and my dad have been on the way out to the car with crow-bars to go 'dispose' of her boyfriend for various things and were only stopped by my faggot mother, who lets the ginger ***** walk all-over her.

If I thought I could get away with it, her gas-line would mysteriously rupture and ignite one night.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 14, 2004, 03:30:43 pm
Best I could do in a pinch (http://www.concreteelephant.com/Silly/Break.htm). If you're wondering, it's called 'Leftbank', by the Noveltones :nod:
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Post by: ionia23 on April 14, 2004, 03:32:27 pm
"Never trust a lesbian to do a man's job" - Dr. Romano "E.R."
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 03:38:01 pm
an0n, have you tried an Intervention with a professional conselor?

Get her off the heroin, booze and other stuff, and help her with her psychological reason's for starting the stuff in the first place and she'll get better.  It sounds like she likes herself about as much as you like stepping in a pile of crap.  You need to get rid of the boyfriend, however you can,  as he could be the reason she's like she is.

You need to help her, an0n, because no one else will.
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 03:39:25 pm
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Originally posted by Liberator
an0n, have you tried an Intervention with a professional conselor?

Get her off the heroin, booze and other stuff, and help her with her psychological reason's for starting the stuff in the first place and she'll get better.  It sounds like she likes herself about as much as you like stepping in a pile of crap.  You need to get rid of the boyfriend, however you can,  as he could be the reason she's like she is.

You need to help her, an0n, because no one else will.
Uh. No.

She made her bed, now she can die in it.
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Post by: vyper on April 14, 2004, 03:45:04 pm
I feel dirty for saying this (I may need counselling myself now) but I agree with part of Lib's post.

Only one part mind:

[q]You need to help her, an0n, because no one else will.[/q]
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Post by: TopAce on April 14, 2004, 03:46:11 pm
To be more accurate: You MUST help her.
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Post by: 01010 on April 14, 2004, 03:53:48 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
My Sister:
She's a heroin addict, a cleptomaniac, a liar, a general thief, a pot smoker, an idiot and a snide, evil *****.

She'll come around every goddamn day, wasted off her ****ing ass on booze, heroin, weed and valium, borrow money off my mother or grandmother because "We've got no gas and we'll freeze" then she'll **** off and a few hours later my brother will see her down town sitting in the pub, smoking, drinking and eating the remnants of a McDonalds and talking to her boyfriend about how easy it'd be to go to Amsterdam for the weekend and bring back a sack of weed.

My mom gives my niece all the spare change she has for a piggy-bank. She must've given her like £20 in 10p's and 50's and £1's. Then one time when my dad was 'round my sisters house he looked in the piggy-bank (because he trusts my sister about as little as I do) and it had like £1 in 2's and 1's. He asked my niece where it all went and she said "Mam and Robbie stole it all because they're evil". Even my 4 year old niece doesn't trust her; She insists on leaving any money that anyone gives her 'round here so her mother can't steal it.

I hate my sister and her loser boyfriend infinitely more than the rest of my family, and twice me and my dad have been on the way out to the car with crow-bars to go 'dispose' of her boyfriend for various things and were only stopped by my faggot mother, who lets the ginger ***** walk all-over her.

If I thought I could get away with it, her gas-line would mysteriously rupture and ignite one night.


She sounds identical to my scavvying ex-heroin addict, money grabbing, ****witted, waster, loser and general mother****er of a half-brother, who I really cannot stand at all.

I know what an0n is talking about when he says she made her bed, I wouldn't give a **** if I never saw him again, it would be better for everyone if that were the case.

Complete wastes of life and total ****ing parasites.
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Post by: Martinus on April 14, 2004, 04:02:23 pm
[color=66ff00]From experience I look at it this way; you can only help someone who wants help.

Those who do not are beyond help as they invariably return to their previous habits. You waste their time and your own. I tend to think that the best solution is to distance yourself as much as possible from them. Pity the kid's involved. :sigh:
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 04:04:13 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
To be more accurate: You MUST help her.
No.

See, my grandmother bailed her out of a £400 rent debt a few months back. And what, I hear you ask, did she do? Oh, she hasn't paid any rent since, because she knows everyone will bail her out because all my other relatives are complete pussies.

She systematically searches through all the bedrooms, coats, drawers and such whenever a room is empty.

And the only reason she doesn't steal from me is because she knows for a fact that if I found her taking my **** I'd cave her head in with a pipe.
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Post by: 01010 on April 14, 2004, 04:05:57 pm
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]From experience I look at it this way; you can only help someone who wants help.

Those who do not are beyond help as they invariably return to their previous habits. You waste their time and your own. I tend to think that the best solution is to distance yourself as much as possible from them. Pity the kid's involved. :sigh:
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That's completely true. I was proud of my brother for kicking scag only to find that he was now working for two local heavyweight drug dealers, stealing motorbikes for them and dealing, because he's such a retard with money it ended up with him oweing some very nasty people some very large amounts of money, with high interest. My parents had to take out a loan for this **** to pay off his drug debts then he doesn't even attempt to pay them back. I want to kill him.
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Post by: J3Vr6 on April 14, 2004, 04:06:17 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
...faggot mother...ginger *****





:lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

Sorry to laugh, but I repeated those outloud and it just sounds so funny.  

You brits and your cute little sayings. :)
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Post by: 01010 on April 14, 2004, 04:07:11 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
No.

See, my grandmother bailed her out of a £400 rent debt a few months back. And what, I hear you ask, did she do? Oh, she hasn't paid any rent since, because she knows everyone will bail her out because all my other relatives are complete pussies.

She systematically searches through all the bedrooms, coats, drawers and such whenever a room is empty.

And the only reason she doesn't steal from me is because she knows for a fact that if I found her taking my **** I'd cave her head in with a pipe.


It's ****ing stupid but we all have key locks on the bedroom door to stop my brother stealing stuff. ****ing pathetic it is.
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Post by: TopAce on April 14, 2004, 04:12:15 pm
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Originally posted by 01010


It's ****ing stupid but we all have key locks on the bedroom door to stop my brother stealing stuff. ****ing pathetic it is.


Not everywhere. I am an example, but it is another pasta I can trust my brother(now).
By the way, I wouldn't call this pathetic. You have your own possessions, the method you protect them is secondary. Effiecency is the most important.

At least this is my opinion. If my bedroom were in 'danger', I wouldn't care what method I would use to keep others away.
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 04:21:10 pm
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]From experience I look at it this way; you can only help someone who wants help.
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I would agree with this, except that some people don't know they need help.  And they are usually the ones that need it the most.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on April 14, 2004, 04:22:24 pm
Can we get back to discussing TV art show presenters?
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 04:23:16 pm
No.
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Post by: TopAce on April 14, 2004, 04:25:19 pm
It would be spam ;)
*points at first post and skeddadles*
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 04:27:12 pm
The problem is, there is always a line. How many times can anyone forgive somebody, or let something pass. In the end, they are simply being taken advantage of, the person neither wants nor needs your help other than as a source of income, and when it all goes wrong, you can garauntee they will find a way of blaming you for it.
Sometimes the only help you can give people, is to let them learn their own lessons.
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Post by: TopAce on April 14, 2004, 04:28:48 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
..
Sometimes the only help you can give people, is to let them learn their own lessons.


:yes:

Added to my quotes list.
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Post by: Martinus on April 14, 2004, 04:30:51 pm
[color=66ff00]Indeed, I agree totally Flipside.
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Post by: Thorn on April 14, 2004, 04:42:53 pm
Jesus, and I thought my family was ****ed....
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Post by: Nico on April 14, 2004, 04:54:01 pm
I'm with An0n on that one. We don't live in wonderland, there's no nice Dr Beckett that will come and help you out of the ****. He MUST help her? All you good christians, aren't you supposed to say "help yourself, and god will help you"? She doesn't deserve any help, that kind, they don't WANT to change. And then they bring problems to you, and don't give a **** afterward ( even if they wanted, they couldn't anyway, they're always high ). Let the sister rot.
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 05:07:32 pm
I have to disagree, the thing with addicts, all addicts, is their personalities are being acted on by an external force, their addiction.  

Certainly there are psychological factors that lead to addiction and these have to dealt with just as surely as the physical ones.

All people have the right to face their future free of external impediment.  We have to help where possible.

What I'm basically saying is that an0n's sister and addicts in general don't think clearly and don't realize they need help to be able to ask for it.  

It's depressing and disappointing to see such lack of compassion from people who would freely give it to one less deserving.
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Post by: Kazan on April 14, 2004, 05:08:30 pm
It's rather ironic that you say that liberator - because you're addicted to something very powerful that affects your judgement in very sinister ways that would take me a month to explain to you

you'd only understand and listen to it if you overcame your addition before hand, or during the explaination
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Post by: Nico on April 14, 2004, 05:11:11 pm
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Originally posted by Liberator
I have to disagree, the thing with addicts, all addicts, is their personalities are being acted on by an external force, their addiction.  

Certainly there are psychological factors that lead to addiction and these have to dealt with just as surely as the physical ones.

All people have the right to face their future free of external impediment.  We have to help where possible.

What I'm basically saying is that an0n's sister and addicts in general don't think clearly and don't realize they need help to be able to ask for it.  

It's depressing and disappointing to see such lack of compassion from people who would freely give it to one less deserving.


Deal with that kind of people for a few years, than come back and talk about it.
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 05:13:05 pm
Ok, let's not go this road :)

Lib, from a certain point of view, An0n could be considered to be helping his sister by phoning the Police and giving them her location. It's a long term help, but it is more help than he or his family are able to give.
It's like being an alcoholic, until they admit they are an alcoholic, the only thing you can do is hope they are asleep when you have company, and padlock the fridge.
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Post by: Tiara on April 14, 2004, 05:14:59 pm
I dare you all to not touch a single PC and/or surf the net for a month. :D
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 05:16:51 pm
Meh, I'd take you up, but I pay £24.99 a month for this ;) hehehe
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 14, 2004, 05:17:50 pm
And I just sold me Cube, so no dice axe lady
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Post by: Nico on April 14, 2004, 05:19:41 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
I dare you all to not touch a single PC and/or surf the net for a month. :D


easy: hollydays, no PC :p
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Post by: Knight Templar on April 14, 2004, 05:20:46 pm
Well an0n, with any luck, if half of what you say is true, she'll be behind bars for a while, making your life that much more pleasant.
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Post by: Zuljin on April 14, 2004, 05:21:56 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
I dare you all to not touch a single PC and/or surf the net for a month. :D


Not touch the pc in a month?
No, I can't do that :p

Being without internet for over a month?
I was cut off for about 4 months about a year ago, one of the worst moments of my life.

An0n: just call the cops and let them handle it.
People who are like that are just utter pathetic and I can quite well understand why you hate her -_-

Nico: I've just been on holidays, been using the comp every single day still :D
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Post by: HotSnoJ on April 14, 2004, 05:33:48 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
I dare you all to not touch a single PC and/or surf the net for a month. :D
*gasp* Unlike you, I basicly have no life outside of computers.
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Post by: Zuljin on April 14, 2004, 05:37:39 pm
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Originally posted by HotSnoJ
*gasp* Unlike you, I basicly have no life outside of computers.


Is there actually one? :nervous:
I've heard rumors about it...
But I classified them all as lies
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 05:48:13 pm
I concur with the above statement.

Oh and KT, they won't do ****. They'll hunt her down, lock her in a cell for a night, drag her to court, charge her £200 for wasting the court's time and give her a warning for the shoplifting, then kick her back out all in less than 24 hours.

Still, the mere fact that the police are after her is enough to have made today a happy one.

And Liberator can STFU until he's had to sit and guard a safe full of money for 10 hours because if he leaves it for 10 seconds someone who just happens to have had their own key secretly cut will be in it and stealing as much cash as they can carry.

She used to just wait till everyone left the room, whip out her key and steal £150 a go from the safe. In the end we had to lock the money in a safe, hide the safe in a cupboard, lock the cupboard and lock the door to the room that the cupboard was in because she'd keep stealing more and more keys and getting her own copies cut.
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Post by: Ghostavo on April 14, 2004, 05:49:57 pm
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*gasp* Unlike you, I basicly have no life outside of computers.


nonsense... there is no life outside of computers... you lie!!! KILL THE BLASPHEMER!!! :nervous:
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Post by: aldo_14 on April 14, 2004, 05:53:34 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
I concur with the above statement.

Oh and KT, they won't do ****. They'll hunt her down, lock her in a cell for a night, drag her to court, charge her £200 for wasting the court's time and give her a warning for the shoplifting, then kick her back out all in less than 24 hours.

Still, the mere fact that the police are after her is enough to have made today a happy one.

And Liberator can STFU until he's had to sit and guard a safe full of money for 10 hours because if he leaves it for 10 seconds someone who just happens to have had their own key secretly cut will be in it and stealing as much cash as they can carry.

She used to just wait till everyone left the room, whip out her key and steal £150 a go from the safe. In the end we had to lock the money in a safe, hide the safe in a cupboard, lock the cupboard and lock the door to the room that the cupboard was in because she'd keep stealing more and more keys and getting her own copies cut.


You should've got a combination lock.
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Post by: Zuljin on April 14, 2004, 05:53:41 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo


nonsense... there is no life outside of computers... you lie!!! KILL THE BLASPHEMER!!! :nervous:


Don't give into it.
It's just advanced computer viruses trying to convince you to stop using the computer and get a real life!
which is all bullocks anyway, it's part of their grand master plan.....
what? :nervous:

An0n: omfg....thats just plain ****ed up
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 05:56:36 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
You should've got a combination lock.
Nah, they don't work.

We all learned to crack those in like 45 seconds when I was 8.

My dad once bought a ****load of used combination-lock brief-cases and we got tasked with finding out the combinations so we could reset them and resell them.
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 05:56:55 pm
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Originally posted by Kazan
It's rather ironic that you say that liberator - because you're addicted to something very powerful that affects your judgement in very sinister ways that would take me a month to explain to you

you'd only understand and listen to it if you overcame your addition before hand, or during the explaination


Enlighten me in a PM.

I just thought of something else, if you give up on her, that means that there is no one who gives a damn about her any more.
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 05:57:28 pm
Cock.
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Post by: redsniper on April 14, 2004, 06:01:34 pm
wow... just read the whole thread
That's too bad about your sister an0n; it's understandable that you hate her. My dad's brother is currently serving a 2 year prison sentence for pulling a gun on his girlfriend, and before that he was running from the law because he was caught in possession of cocaine
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 06:05:43 pm
Oh yeah, my sister's boyfriend's brother is on the run from a murder charge and he was holed up at their house till a few weeks ago.

Believe it or not, I'm probably the most normal of all my family, which is a truly sad state of a affair.

I've got armed-robber uncles, a drug dealer uncle/brother/sister/aunt, a race fixing uncle, a burgler/accused-rapist/software pirate uncle and my dad's cousin has killed at least two people and gotten away with it.

Considering all that, I'm amazingly well-balanced.
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Post by: Rictor on April 14, 2004, 06:08:42 pm
Wow, I guess Snatch wasn't comedy after all. You people really are like that.
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Post by: redsniper on April 14, 2004, 06:10:02 pm
well, taking all that into account, you turned out all right.
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Post by: Zuljin on April 14, 2004, 06:10:14 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
Oh yeah, my sister's boyfriend's brother is on the run from a murder charge and he was holed up at their house till a few weeks ago.

Believe it or not, I'm probably the most normal of all my family, which is a truly sad state of a affair.

I've got armed-robber uncles, a drug dealer uncle/brother/sister/aunt, a race fixing uncle, a burgler/accused-rapist/software pirate uncle and my dad's cousin has killed at least two people and gotten away with it.

Considering all that, I'm amazingly well-balanced.


:eek2:
Ever thought about moving?..
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Post by: HotSnoJ on April 14, 2004, 06:12:20 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo


nonsense... there is no life outside of computers... you lie!!! KILL THE BLASPHEMER!!! :nervous:
Uh....:wtf:

I really am at a loss as to the point of that post....since you are agreeing with me.
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Post by: Zuljin on April 14, 2004, 06:15:25 pm
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Originally posted by HotSnoJ
Uh....:wtf:

I really am at a loss as to the point of that post....since you are agreeing with me.


I think he more or less thought that you implied that there might be a life outside computers...(did that make sense?..)
or thats what I got out of it atleast :nervous:
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Post by: Ghostavo on April 14, 2004, 06:16:47 pm
no I'm not... I first said... nonsense, then I said what I believed in... then I said you were lying... sorry about the puctuation. :nervous:
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Post by: Corhellion on April 14, 2004, 06:19:25 pm
oi...an0n...I do believe we're in the same boat...

...my sister steals money, does drugs, skips school (daily), and is basically coasting through life...did I mention that my sister is 15 years old?

It ****ing well pisses me off to no end. AND! on top of that, I found a few of my nintendo games in her room...a little while later she take the ****ing console up to her room (which is off limits to everyone else except her) without asking me...I take it out of my room and back downstairs. She comes home and asks where the **** the nintendo is, I told her it's mine and it's where it should be downstairs. Little ****wit...When you're done bashing your sisters skull in...mind if I borrow the pipe afterwords...

...sorry had to rant...

Cor
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 06:20:39 pm
General :nervous:ness......

I'm not in Kansas any more am I? ;)
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 06:23:54 pm
My sister was smoking weed and shoplifting when she was 12. By the time she reached the ripe old age of 15 she was starting on cocaine.

And if you had my sister, the Nintendo wouldn't have just switched rooms, it'd be sat in some dealer's house after she exchanged it for £5 of heroin.

Come to think of it, I should check to see if my GameCube is still upstairs......Meh. Tomorrow.
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Post by: Rictor on April 14, 2004, 06:26:53 pm
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Originally posted by Corhellion
oi...an0n...I do believe we're in the same boat...

...my sister steals money, does drugs, skips school (daily), and is basically coasting through life...did I mention that my sister is 15 years old?

It ****ing well pisses me off to no end. AND! on top of that, I found a few of my nintendo games in her room...a little while later she take the ****ing console up to her room (which is off limits to everyone else except her) without asking me...I take it out of my room and back downstairs. She comes home and asks where the **** the nintendo is, I told her it's mine and it's where it should be downstairs. Little ****wit...When you're done bashing your sisters skull in...mind if I borrow the pipe afterwords...

...sorry had to rant...

Cor


What kind of drugs? Sorry to interefere, but if its something like weed than..meh. The stealing your console crap is minor, as is skipping school (every 15 year old does that, right?). Stealing money, thats a but more serious but nothing huge.

Don't wanna preach to you or anything, its just that all those things which you said could be interpreted as yuor sister being a tard, or just being a slightly pissed off 15 year old, depending on the degrees.
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Post by: HotSnoJ on April 14, 2004, 06:31:39 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
no I'm not... I first said... nonsense, then I said what I believed in... then I said you were lying... sorry about the puctuation. :nervous:
/me is somehwhat confused.

Well anyway, I do have something resembling a life outside..I try to get to concerts every week. And now I'm starting to like bowling...hoping to go bowling next week. :D
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Post by: vyper on April 14, 2004, 06:31:43 pm
And our society has no problems.  :wtf:


[q]as is skipping school (every 15 year old does that, right?[/q]

I never, and none of my mates did. And we turned out to be typical alcoholic, late sleeping, layabout yet successful students.
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 06:34:28 pm
Cor, if she's 15, she's a minor and can be compelled to get clean to your hearts content.
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Post by: vyper on April 14, 2004, 06:40:42 pm
n/m
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Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2004, 06:43:16 pm
The problem is that most hard drug users start on Weed. In fact, Weed is still taken even when you are on hard drugs. When you do a line of Coke or an Ecstasy tablet, it doesn't mean you stop smoking, far from it. I don't hold that weed 'naturally' leads to hard drugs, but I do hold that someone who smokes weed has the capability to go onto stronger stuff for a bigger buzz. It's down to choice and strength.

I say this because I used to do Weed, Coke, Ecstasy, Speed and a few other things, though I refused to touch Heroin or do anything that involved needles. I wouldn't say I was a heavy user, I was a weekender, but nonetheless, you'd be amazed, when you do a line of coke, how much you want another one 30 minutes later. When you are coming down from an E, the only route away from feeling depressed that you can see is to get high on another tab.

I was lucky, I found myself fancying a line of coke at work, and pulled myself together enough to realise the creeping effect that stuff has on you. You never realise that you are thinking about it so much until you examine your own thoughts while coherent.

My family were good to me during that time, and I was less grateful at the time than I should have been, however, I did not steal or lie or manipulate my family or anyone else to feed that habit, I had more self respect than that. If I had no money, I would rather go without, even though I'd be in a foul mood, than steal. Which means there IS a choice, or at least there is for a while, I cannot accept that people don't realise they are getting hooked on substances, and that only they can protect themselves.

So I'm afraid I have no sympathy whatsoever for An0n's sister, she has passed her point of choice, and she has chosen.

Edit : < Neo > Woah < Neo >

2nd Edit : I thought I should point out, it wasn't that I wasn't tempted to steal.
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Post by: Shrike on April 14, 2004, 06:56:18 pm
My paternal grandmother's last name was Hart.  Does that mean I'm related to anon?  Yeeeee.
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Post by: redsniper on April 14, 2004, 09:24:41 pm
@Flipside: so are you off the drugs now?
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Post by: Levyathan on April 14, 2004, 09:35:08 pm
The translation of 'hart' to Portuguese is a synonym of 'homosexual'. Slang, but it's true nonetheless.
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Post by: Ghostavo on April 14, 2004, 09:39:42 pm
hart? :wtf: portuguese? it sounds a lot more like arte which is art.
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Post by: Levyathan on April 14, 2004, 09:43:22 pm
It doesn't sound anything like 'hart' in Portuguese. I meant the Portuguese word for the animal which, in English, is called 'hart'.
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Post by: Ghostavo on April 14, 2004, 09:44:29 pm
ah... veado :p sorry.
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Post by: Levyathan on April 14, 2004, 09:45:45 pm
Yep.
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 09:56:15 pm
I'm tempted to make a comment about why that's true but I'd like to at least get one rank further up before I get banned again.
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Post by: Liberator on April 14, 2004, 09:59:33 pm
Calmly, an0n, only 557 posts to go.

Never, ever give up!  You'll always wonder if there was more you could have done.
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Post by: an0n on April 14, 2004, 10:00:59 pm
No I won't.

I'll be pleasantly suprised by the ending, but no more so than I was by say, Matrix: Revolutions.
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Post by: Kazan on April 14, 2004, 10:02:05 pm
Liberator: it's something purely psychological that causes associated emotional responses thereby releasing positive neurotransmitters which are addictive

most of the human population gives into their neurotransmitter addition and doesn't give a rats about intellectual integrity

know what I'm talking about yet? If so: I knew you wouldn't believe me even though i have the data backing me up
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Post by: Thorn on April 14, 2004, 10:26:48 pm
Lets just get one thing straight. Weed is only addictive if you have an addictive personalty.
I've been doing it for years. Though not recently. I havent had any for about two months now. No ill effects. And I havent touched any other sort of drugs. Don't intend to.
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Post by: Kazan on April 14, 2004, 11:52:17 pm
thorn if you're trying to figure out what im refering to then you're lightyears off target
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Post by: Rictor on April 15, 2004, 12:01:53 am
You know what would be great? If when anon hits the new postcount, the admins just give him a custom nick that says "Collosus". Then, he'll never know. Muahahaha.
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Post by: Kazan on April 15, 2004, 12:02:27 am
don't give them ideas
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Post by: Rictor on April 15, 2004, 12:15:47 am
Thats the plan. You know what would also be cool? If you made Kazan's title  to "Devout Christian" and linked to a Christian fundementalist website? I've got a good link if you want, its really way out there.

I'de also suggest that you throw copious amounts of cash my way, but thats a bit beyond the powers of forum admins.

...or is it?
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Post by: an0n on April 15, 2004, 12:16:06 am
I've already considered the possibility that they might.

Fortunately I have.......'methods' of discovering if they have.

*gets the BDSM porn ready to e-mail to Shrike*
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Post by: Rictor on April 15, 2004, 12:17:30 am
CC me while you're at it, I want some too.
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Post by: Thorn on April 15, 2004, 12:20:42 am
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Originally posted by Kazan
thorn if you're trying to figure out what im refering to then you're lightyears off target

I wasnt referring to you at all...
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Post by: Knight Templar on April 15, 2004, 12:37:39 am
an0n: All the drugs you say and you'd think she'd only get a night in jail and a fine?

*wonders aloud what his title would be if he didn't have a stupid moderator one*
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Post by: an0n on April 15, 2004, 02:05:58 am
She's not up for drugs charges. She's only wanted for skipping court and shop-lifting. And if there's a warrant out for her arrest I'm reasonably sure she'll have sold, smoked or destroyed any drugs she had.
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Post by: kasperl on April 15, 2004, 02:07:48 am
mmmm......

you think she actually hears there is a warrant out untill she wakes up in jail?
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Post by: an0n on April 15, 2004, 02:10:30 am
Well, seen as it was in the paper and I know for a fact she was still walking free 8 hours later......
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Post by: kasperl on April 15, 2004, 02:15:17 am
she reads the paper?

you didn't tell her, did you?
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Post by: an0n on April 15, 2004, 02:22:10 am
No, my mother did.
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Post by: kasperl on April 15, 2004, 02:44:50 am
what a pity......

can't you just turn that boyfriend in for something?

or go to social  services/child care to at least get the kids out?

and yeah, "Think of the Children". pathetic as it may sound, no reason for them to grow up in the family spirit, is there?
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Post by: an0n on April 15, 2004, 02:46:47 am
Uh, no.

If we got Social Service involved they'd take my niece into care and foster her out to some abusive, alcoholic, paedophile in Surrey.
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Post by: kasperl on April 15, 2004, 02:48:33 am
dunno, sue for adaption?

re-reads an0ns commments on his family.

not the best child raising envirement either, no offence.

have faith in the social services to avoid the peados?
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Post by: Liberator on April 15, 2004, 02:49:02 am
Why?  

Allow me to rephrase.  Why do you think it would end like that?  More likely your parents could persue custody as the grandparents.
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Post by: an0n on April 15, 2004, 02:52:55 am
Quite frankly, it's not worth the risk.
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Post by: Jiggyhound on April 15, 2004, 03:08:10 am
have some faith in the system, as ****ed up as it is.
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Post by: Kazan on April 15, 2004, 08:44:08 am
rictor: i highly doubt the mods would give me a title that offends me intentionally
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Post by: Martinus on April 15, 2004, 11:10:40 am
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Originally posted by Kazan
rictor: i highly doubt the mods would give me a title that offends me intentionally

[color=66ff00]Very true, personally I hold Kazan's beliefs (or lack of) in the highest of regards. Invalidating his beliefs invalidates my own.
[/color]
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Post by: Kazan on April 15, 2004, 11:13:08 am
Thank you Maeglamor
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Post by: Liberator on April 15, 2004, 11:38:01 am
While I wonder how he can live his life without any faith in anything, I think his title is cool.:)
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Post by: Kazan on April 15, 2004, 11:44:28 am
it's really easy liberator - one doesn't need faith
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Post by: Thorn on April 15, 2004, 02:46:54 pm
I have faith in myself, and the people I trust. Thats all the faith I need. I dont need to cook up some imaginary dude in the sky to get by every day. Some people do. Fine. Whatever works for you.
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Post by: Rictor on April 15, 2004, 02:58:41 pm
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Originally posted by Kazan
it's really easy liberator - one doesn't need faith


That depends on your definiton of the word. The way I see it, all humans need faith and have faith. No necessarily in God or anything, but everyone has faith in certain things.
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Post by: Kazan on April 15, 2004, 03:31:27 pm
faith in the religious sense - "faith in someone" can be based off rationality

but faith as used in the religious sense means "belief not based upon evidence or rationality"
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Post by: JarC on April 15, 2004, 04:35:16 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
Uh, no.

If we got Social Service involved they'd take my niece into care and foster her out to some abusive, alcoholic, paedophile in Surrey.
that might still happen if your sister does end up in court on a drugs abuse charge...which is just a thing waiting to happen if I understood the posts right...