Hard Light Productions Forums

Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: an0n on April 18, 2004, 03:38:11 am

Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: an0n on April 18, 2004, 03:38:11 am: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0404/S00164.htm

:wtf:
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Tiara on April 18, 2004, 04:49:53 am: Quote
Mehr News Agency (Tehran, Iran)

Talk about your reliable sources :p
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: kode on April 18, 2004, 04:59:26 am: too much text. can someone do it in pictures instead?
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Carl on April 18, 2004, 05:10:12 am: err...okay.

(http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/ohno.gif)
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: karajorma on April 18, 2004, 05:16:15 am: :lol:

There's a real reliance on MSPaint art in these forums of late. Keep it up :D
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: an0n on April 18, 2004, 05:21:25 am: Damn you Carl.

I knew I shouldn't have gone for the extra detail:

(http://www.penguinbomb.com/images/wmds.jpg)
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Tiara on April 18, 2004, 05:22:31 am: :lol: Nice one, an0n! :lol:
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: 01010 on April 18, 2004, 05:37:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Damn you Carl.

I knew I shouldn't have gone for the extra detail:

Ha ha, awesome.
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: kode on April 18, 2004, 05:39:29 am: oh, now I see. thank you.
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Janos on April 18, 2004, 05:51:33 am: Awesome, :lol: !
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: vyper on April 18, 2004, 09:23:09 am: The picture speaks louder than words, and I like it.

That said, I'd say not to take the report too lierally but to try and extract whatever fraction of the truth is actually there. (Same with all news reports. ;) )
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Lonestar on April 18, 2004, 10:04:36 am: I dont find this funny at all....

You all rascist against arabs or something? Cause it comes from Iran its questionable? Iran is as bad as the US and you all beleive US daily?

And before you answer think about it a little bit please.
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: vyper on April 18, 2004, 10:15:52 am: What makes you think they're directly saying its unreliable? I'd say the pics are a nice general piss take.

Besides, do you honestly believe _any_ news agency isn't biased?

Dude, look around these forums - believe me we do not believe the uS daily :lol:
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: an0n on April 18, 2004, 10:21:47 am: All news agencies are biased, but very few will actively fabricate stories.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0417-06.htm
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Rictor on April 18, 2004, 10:55:49 am: And you believe that aid workers are really the type of people who get a kick out of pulling stories out of their ass? I believe an individual over a news corporation any day of week.

Nice pic BTW. Says it all :D:D
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: IceFire on April 18, 2004, 10:56:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Lonestar
I dont find this funny at all....

You all rascist against arabs or something? Cause it comes from Iran its questionable? Iran is as bad as the US and you all beleive US daily?

And before you answer think about it a little bit please.

Sorry can't agree with this at all. Media studies is part of my degree and I know with some level of certainty that Iran has one of the most controlled media in the world. Everything is state censored and highly controlled with many issues completely invisible or marginalized to the extreme.

The U.S. although also controlled operates from a corporate control perspective. The U.S. government doesn't have a daily say in controlling the news stories of the media and you'll often have the same network or the same conglomerate who may make what appears to be a damaging remark about one of its parent companies or runs a story that is in opposition to another network. U.S. and Canadan media are generally censored more by culture and society at large than any strong centralized government agency that absolutely controls the stories.

I don't for a minute believe that U.S. or Canadian media is entirely free or that it reports all of the important stories and I know of all kinds of stories that are marginalized or not reported that are important. But there is opposition to those in these two countries...opposition in Iran is hanged, shot, or otherwise disposed of.

So if I would absolutely question the validity of a news story coming from Iranian state censored media.

Its not at all about racism, its about state control and power structure. Its much easier to fabricate or distort truth of an event under such a system.
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Rictor on April 18, 2004, 11:01:21 am: Besides, if they all of a sudden, after one year go

"Oh look, here they are. Silly us, they were right here all along. We told you so. No, you may not examine them, you filthy traitor."

that would tend to look a bit suspcious. I predict that if that happens, one half of the US population will buy it, and the rest of the world will not.

Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't done it sooner.
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Rictor on April 18, 2004, 11:17:25 am: Aldo: Though in practice, state control of the media is more effective than corporate self-censorship, in practice the difference is not reallt that huge. And besides, there IS a government organization to control the media, the FCC. And do you by any chance know who is the chairman/boss of the FCC? Michael Powell, son of one Colin Powell....

State media is not always a bad thing. If you're doing a media studies course, you probably know about the role the media played in the recent coup attempt in Venezuela. You had *I think* 6 major media channels, 5 of which were private and 1 which was state-owned. The 5 private ones were all part of the elite who tried to overthrow Chavez, and put out complete bull**** to make him out to be a dictator. I mean, these guys would put Fox News to shame. And the one state news channel was a way for Chavez to address the people directly and cut through the lies and misinformation.
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: phreak on April 18, 2004, 11:35:38 am: (http://www.penguinbomb.com/phreak/deadhorse.gif)
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: kode on April 18, 2004, 01:04:53 pm: stop beating the evil dead donkey!!!
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: an0n on April 18, 2004, 01:06:46 pm: Ah, PhReAk, I see you share Shrike's....ummm....'sexual niche'.
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Tiara on April 18, 2004, 01:06:54 pm: Is it really dead? It just seems to be unconcious to me... :p
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Rictor on April 18, 2004, 01:08:35 pm: Looks drunk to me, and sleeping it off. :D:D
Title: "Look! We've found the weapons!"
Post by: Taristin on April 18, 2004, 01:41:58 pm: I like how he's beating that side of it... ;7