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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on April 20, 2004, 08:06:16 am
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http://uk.gamesdomain.yahoo.com/article/18893
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that is indeed one of the most tasteless pieces of **** i have seen.
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:blah::ick:
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could they at least wait untill the fighting ended
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Why am I suddenly reminded of the "games" put out by white supremicists and the like.
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I am soooooooooo waiting for the sequel.
IT BETTER BE TEH MODDABLE DARN IT! :mad:
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Originally posted by karajorma
Why am I suddenly reminded of the "games" put out by white supremicists and the like.
Sooo, then games like Call Of Duty, Counterstrike, Battlefield, etc, don't rock your boat...?
there's only one thing speaking against this type of games...they're based on Real Life™, which raises the question who's got the 'sickest mind', the heads of state, pushing a war down everyones throat, or the game developer offering a way to vent the frustration of thousands of left-behind relatives...
I'd rather have a 1000 games more like this one than the real thing they're based on...
I mean, what are you guys makin a fuzz about with the realthing being much much worse...?
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It's absolutely tasteless and an offence to all who got killed there and their relatives.
This should not be done.Period
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Originally posted by JarC
Sooo, then games like Call Of Duty, Counterstrike, Battlefield, etc, don't rock your boat...?
Actually they don't I prefer sci-fi types like Halo and Half-Life to the realistic ones but that's not my point. All of those are about wars that are already over. This war is still on-going.
Originally posted by JarC
there's only one thing speaking against this type of games...they're based on Real Life™, which raises the question who's got the 'sickest mind', the heads of state, pushing a war down everyones throat, or the game developer offering a way to vent the frustration of thousands of left-behind relatives...
I'd rather have a 1000 games more like this one than the real thing they're based on...
I mean, what are you guys makin a fuzz about with the realthing being much much worse...?
Except that the two aren't connected. Making this game doesn't mean that what happens in Iraq won't continue so lets view this as what it is. A cynical attempt to cash in on the Iraqi war. That's my whole problem with this. The war is still going on and they keep pushing thus crap out of the door in attempt to make some money. How's it going to feel to someone who just lost family in the real war to see this game trivialising it?
How's about this. Why not make a World Trade Center fireman simulator. Your job is to go into the WTC and pull out as many people as you can before the building collapses. Sound like a fair idea to you?
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Bleh.
To add some non-political discussion, did anyone else notice that as soon as Games domain got aquired by Yahoo, they have pretty much no reviews, and every game "review" is simply a plug?
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*shakes head*
Here is a close second though:
http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=48431
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I hate 'real life' games anyway, never been able to get into any of the 'Force Ops Zero Delta' type games, and that little 'installment' reminds me why :)
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Bleh.
To add some non-political discussion, did anyone else notice that as soon as Games domain got aquired by Yahoo, they have pretty much no reviews, and every game "review" is simply a plug?
I noticed that too, Gamesdomain used to be pretty good too with witty writers.
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This game... wtf is wrong with these people?
i wantsa run roun an' shoots hundreds dem iraquois out der in that bad lands.
:ick: :blah: :no:
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:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :blah: :ick:
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Not cool... definatly not cool :(
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Wow. Worthy of a Penn and Teller episode that is...
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Originally posted by Col. Fishguts
It's absolutely tasteless and an offence to all who got killed there and their relatives.
This should not be done.Period
By your logic Call of Duty, Medal Of Honor, Battlefield 1942 and many more games are tasteless and offensive to all who got killed.
Even though Call of Duty won best game of the year, its tasteless by your meaning.
If i made a game based on the Palestinians vs Isrealites it would be tasteless too.
Why is one thing good, then the same thing done on a smaller scale bad? Or is it a double standard people have? Only Interplay and EA can do tasteless games, and those struggling or starting developers cant?
I dont get the logic behind bashing this game, unless you bash game of the year and many other games released this year to based on the same type of premise.
Im sure most who spoke against this didnt think before they posted so im willing to overlook and forget the names of people who bashed this game, but hold other similars so highly.
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Yeah, but Call of Duty was about WW2, which happened close to 60 yars ago. Besides, it had 3 sides represented, as opposed to just one and that one being heavily biased.
I think it has to do with how long ago the conflict happened. Even Vietnam is some 30 years ago, so its fair game. In 30 years, if someone makes a game about Iraq, no one will take offense..
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Originally posted by Lonestar
Im sure most who spoke against this didnt think before they posted so im willing to overlook and forget the names of people who bashed this game, but hold other similars so highly.
So you think WTC Fireman Simulator would be okay too then? If you're against that surely you're guilty of the same double standard that you're complaining about here.
As I said before what makes Battlefield okay and this not is the time involved. WWII was 60 years ago. This happened less than a month ago and is still going on.
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there is a diference between a historical event (WW2) and a current ongoing conflict were people are still dieing, I'm even a little unnered by the Vietnam games becase there are still a lot of people alive who lived through the real thing.
think about how many people consider themselves profesional anti-terrorist comandos becase they've played too much counter-strike
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The wounds of WW2, and even (mostly) Vietnam have healed - or at least are certainly less raw. History has made its judgement on these conflicts.
In the case of Iraq, it is still a deep, festering wound - no-one knows how the 'war' will turn out. People are still dying out there, families are still in the midst of their mourning - on both sides. Turning this sort of heated issue into a game is not so much irresponsible, as propaganda. It's preventing people making an honest, fair judgement by trying to put them in a clear, good vs bad situation as the programmers dictate.
And unlike WW2, or vietnam, etc judgements still need to be made and learned from.
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Originally posted by Bobboau
anti-terrorist comandos becase they've played too much counter-strike
I read an article that presumable quoted a study of some kind, which found that 1/3 of American tennagers have an abnormally high opinion of the Army, only due to playing America's Army. Now thats good propaganda.
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Originally posted by Bobboau
there is a diference between a historical event (WW2) and a current ongoing conflict were people are still dieing, I'm even a little unnered by the Vietnam games becase there are still a lot of people alive who lived through the real thing.
That pretty mich sums up why I think this is a pretty tasteless game.
Maybe gamers should unite and boycott Kuma War? Afterall, it'd show that not everyone supports war-profiteering. Or maybe that's just being idealistic, and when you're idealistic you're sleepin' with the terrorists!
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dude, the only opinions i got from the Army through playing AA were these:
1) IRL, you always walk through a door 5 times and get thrown back each time.
2) when a M249 fires, everything slows down
3) grenades go through walls
4) snipers are hacking, per definition
5) no one follows orders, everyone goes rambo.
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Originally posted by Ace
That pretty mich sums up why I think this is a pretty tasteless game.
Maybe gamers should unite and boycott Kuma War? Afterall, it'd show that not everyone supports war-profiteering. Or maybe that's just being idealistic, and when you're idealistic you're sleepin' with the terrorists!
Of course, you could always just boycott Kuma War cos it's a steaming pile of faeces.
And am I the only person slightly disturbed by the concept of Americas Army? I mean, can you get other nations armjy ghames and link up to fight the americans? Like Britains Army, where you have to steal your opponents boots (cos your own have melted), learn complex hand signals (cos they haven't finished the 5-years delayed radio system), and share 1 clip of bullets between you and your teammates?
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Canada's Army?
I shudder to think.
from a salon.com article here (http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/04/13/battlefield_vietnam/index.html) (subscriber only POS):
"A third of the country's young people have an elevated view of the Army, not foremost for anything it's actually done lately, but because of the computer game they played, which just simulates it."
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mmmmm... Capitalism...
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Of course, you could always just boycott Kuma War cos it's a steaming pile of faeces.
And am I the only person slightly disturbed by the concept of Americas Army? I mean, can you get other nations armjy ghames and link up to fight the americans? Like Britains Army, where you have to steal your opponents boots (cos your own have melted), learn complex hand signals (cos they haven't finished the 5-years delayed radio system), and share 1 clip of bullets between you and your teammates?
welll, AA is hardly realistic. in all the time i played it, i was in one(1) FF incident actually accidental and involving more then 2 persons. and i learned that there are no armys that fight with wore then 16 people a side, and off course, i learned that there are never, ever civilians anywhere on a battlefield.
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What we need is for someone to create a fake cover to 'Suicide Bomber', make it as tasteless and realistic as possible, and I'll send it to them with a suggestion that this ties in wonderfully with their sense of ethics :)
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dont do that, they'll sell it.
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"America's Army 2 - Shoot the ragheads!"
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they're called hajis now aldo.
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Originally posted by Gank
they're called hajis now aldo.
ah. Looks like my military terminolgy is out-of-date, then.
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Uh-huh, its actually a form of the word used for the pilgrimige to mecca muslims are expected to make, why its used as a derogatory term I dont know.
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Originally posted by Gank
Uh-huh, its actually a form of the word used for the pilgrimige to mecca muslims are expected to make, why its used as a derogatory term I dont know.
[color=66ff00]Because it's easy for racist idiots to remember.
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Originally posted by Gank
Uh-huh, its actually a form of the word used for the pilgrimige to mecca muslims are expected to make, why its used as a derogatory term I dont know.
Because people who use that sort of term (well, and race / religion based epiphet) generally don't have a clue who or what the **** they're talking about..........
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Originally posted by aldo_14
"America's Army 2 - Shoot the ragheads!"
mmmm.
you do not want to see the comments made in the chat during Radio Tower (Desert mission, oponents with arabian looks)