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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Liberator on April 21, 2004, 11:57:29 am
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http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-04/20/11.00.film
I thought some of you might find this interesting.
As I thought, you are going to have seen the Clone Wars shorts on CN to have any sense what is going on the new film.
*calls down orbital strike on Skywalker ranch*
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Where does it mention anything about that? :confused:
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Well that's rather crap for those of us who aren't in the US and haven't been downloading them off of usenet.
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[color=66ff00]Starwars episode III: Meh.
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Atleast they didn't do em as a "Hyperspace subscribers only" thing. THAT would have sucked.
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[color=66ff00]Starwars episode III: Who cares.
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Do I detect a smidgeon of Vehemence on your part Maeg? ;)
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[color=66ff00]Starwars episode III: *nods off*
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Ep 3 better kick ass or I'm really going to be pissed off at Mr. Lucas (not that I'm not already, but I am a Star Wars fan and i want to be optimistic). I mean, there is some cool stuff that has to happen:
-Anakin gets pwned by Obi-Wan
-Anakin gets Darth Vader suit (James Earl Jones's voice and no facial expression, so his acting is improved 1000%
-Most of the Jedi get hunted down and exterminated -possibility for cool fight scenes here
-Huge battles with Clones and Robots and such
If Lucas can f*ck that up, then he has indeed lost all of any talent he once posessed
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LOL, easy to critisize, not so easy to do even a smidgeon of what Mr. Lucas has done.
If you think its easy, why hasnt anyone heard of you?
It may not be the best movies ever, but he deserves respect for bringing in a new culture to our world. So many haters......
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Originally posted by Turambar
-Anakin gets Darth Vader suit (James Earl Jones's voice and no facial expression, so his acting is improved 1000%
:lol:
Also Lonestar, EP I was a bad film by anyones standards, I'm not particularly big on Star Wars but I enjoyed the first three, Clone wars was ok for the action but for the most part the dialogue was also crap.
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I KNEW those damn cartoons were going to be part of the story. I imagine it's how Animatrix and "Enter the Matrix" video game all told a little bit of the story for the main event, the movie.
I am not really a star wars fan. I mean, I was for the 1st three he did (4,5, & 6). I remember being a little pee stain watching Return of the Jedi at the theaters with my family. But the new ones (1, 2, & maybe three) all sucked IMO. They royally sucked. I think what made it bad was the acting and the overuse of CGI. But whatever, you guys will rape me without vaseline for not being a fan (just be gentle and call me Lucy while you do it).
I'll watch part 3, but maybe not in the theaters. Unless i see a trailer that makes me wet myself. I'll definitely have to rent those cartoon network episodes when it comes out on DVD, which I'm sure will be out before episode three is due.
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I think George was still directing them like it was 1972 to be honest, he should have left the films in the hands of a younger director in my opinion, either completely go for the 'retro' Star Wars 1972 look or make it completely differently. 1 & 2 are 'a bit like' Star Wars in content, but nothing like it in look, and it just didn't work for me :(
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It's just...he's hiring no-talent hacks for lead roles...he's acting like Roger Corman in the 60's.
I mean they look good and all, but at least Carrier Fisher, Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill could act. The whole thing needs a Han Solo type character for crying out loud, everybody's so...nice, even the villians, except Palpa..err, Darth Sidious.;)
I mean it's all so convoluted, if you are going to take over a galaxy, why all the cloak and dagger stuff, clone 300,000,000 Darth Mauls and get on with business.
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star wars Ep III trailer (http://www.pureesoiree.be/Post/?P_ID=3156)
;), it's cool.
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not to splt hairs but,
"focusing on the return of Darth Vader"
whatever....the coming of darth vader more likly
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Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80
star wars Ep III trailer (http://www.pureesoiree.be/Post/?P_ID=3156)
;), it's cool.
Why was that two minute short, made with legos more entertaining than Episode 2?
BTW, Legos r0x0r!
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That trailer is awesome.
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that was good :lol:
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It better have pirates, drugs and hookers or I am sooo gonna get 24th century on Lucas' ass.
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Is that based on a real trailer that I haven't seen or are they guessing/ It looks VERY convincing!
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Originally posted by IceFire
Is that based on a real trailer that I haven't seen or are they guessing/ It looks VERY convincing!
I think they're guessing. But I also think they might be very close to the mark with their version.
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:lol:
I like that trailer!
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Originally posted by IceFire
Is that based on a real trailer that I haven't seen or are they guessing/ It looks VERY convincing!
Indeed, it's very convincing.
And most likely it will probably be something very close to it too.
I just hope the lightsaber battles will be better than in Episode II -_-
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By the way, does the Star Wars websites have the shorts posted?
If they do, does anyone have the link?
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Those sabre battles we're better than all but Yoda/Dookoo in Ep. 2
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I almost don't want to see Ep. III, just because I think I could imagine a better movie in my head and don't really want to spoil it.
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the people in that lego trailer at least know a thing about cinamatography, and the acting seemed better too somehow
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Not like it'd be much of a feat, givin' the last two films. The only good acting wise about the prequels was Liam Neeson.
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Y'know, I was planning on downloading Episode 3, as I always do with all films, but I'd pay to go see a full-length Lego version.
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Originally posted by an0n
Y'know, I was planning on downloading Episode 3, as I always do with all films, but I'd pay to go see a full-length Lego version.
:yes:
The trailer was very cool. I'm pretty unimpressed with the new Star Wars movies. I never was a warsie but I liked the original movies a lot.
The fact is that the two newer movies aren't actually that bad, they're just nothing to do with the older trilogy. Had the original trilogy never existed most of us would probably think that I,II and III are okay sci-fi movies. The problem is that we know that Star Wars can be so much better than what we're getting.
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VERY UNIMPRESSED with the movies...
But that lego trailer ruled.
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This trailer is very cute.
I hope there will be new music tracks in this new Episode.
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Originally posted by TopAce
I hope there will be new music tracks in this new Episode.
Bugger that. Just play Duel of the Fates all the way through ;)
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Star Wars Episode III: return of the francises.
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Star wars Ep III: Jar jar binks movie
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Pfff. If Lucas was just trying to whore out crap to the fans to line his own pockets he'd go right ahead and just call it: Star Wars - Episode 3: Natalie Portman!
And I have to admit, if it was called that I'd certainly pay to go see it.
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Is the 'Rise of the Empire' title final?
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I think it's just assumed that it is.
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Of course, Ep. II was supposed to be "The Clone Wars" in everyone's mind, and it turned out to have a B-movie title.
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[color=66ff00]That trailer just shows that you can make a better movie with genuinely plastic actors, sets that can be authentically copied with bricks and a budget of a few hundred quid.
Lucas ruined starwars. He should just let David Fincher direct I Jedi, there would be a movie worth seeing.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]That trailer just shows that you can make a better movie with genuinely plastic actors, sets that can be authentically copied with bricks and a budget of a few hundred quid.
Lucas ruined starwars. He should just let David Fincher direct I Jedi, there would be a movie worth seeing.
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I would complain if he'd make the Thrawn trilogy instead though..
Katana fleet....
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Of course, Ep. II was supposed to be "The Clone Wars" in everyone's mind, and it turned out to have a B-movie title.
True enough.
And I think the general origin of the assumed 'Rise of the Empire' title was some kind of sarcastic reference to Terminator 3. At least that's how I thought it up.
Since then I think it's suffered from 'US Foreign Policy Syndrome' where a baseless lie has been repeated so many times, it becomes the truth. Lucas himself has undoubtely heard of it and it's as good a title as any for his creatively limited mind to use......
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It could, alternatively, be titled "Fall of the Republic," but effectively they mean the same thing. There is, of course, the fact that Ep. II, which had a plot in which the clones were a minor element, didn't even get the "Clone Wars" title that any half-witted third grader would find more appropriate but rather something which made absolutely no sense. "Attack of the Clones?" The clones fought on the "good" side, after all, and only attacked a Sith/Trade federation enclave. Oh, wait, the clones as a minor plot element thing isn't really relevant, since Ep. II HAD NO PLOT. Anyway, given the direction the recent Star Wars attempts have gone, if only we were so lucky as to get a title as rational as "Rise of the Empire"
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[color=66ff00]Ok time to outshine Mr. Scifi gerbil Lucas; create the worst possible (but relevant) title possible for Ep. III. I'll start with
Episode III: The evil Jedi
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Could have been worse :-
Star Wars Episode II : When Clones Attack!!
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I agree, there were massive plot holes in Ep II, I can't believe the Jedi would miss something as massive as that, the Republic wasn't THAT crumbled!
LOL Maeg, how about :-
Star Wars Episode III : The Bad Guys Win
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Episode 3: Birth of the Twins!!1111!!!1!1!1oneoneoneone
Episode 3: ****ing Annakin Up
Episode 3: WOOKIES!!!
Episode 3: Cha-ching!
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Episode 3: Flamakalemalr
What, it's nonsense. Makes it perfectly relevant. :nervous:
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They could appeal to the key SW demographic and call it:
Episode 3: BOOBS!
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Episode 3: we locked Lucas in a closet and actually made it good
That would get people to see it :nod:
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Episode III: Black is Beautiful
:p
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Not like it'd be much of a feat, givin' the last two films. The only good acting wise about the prequels was Liam Neeson.
Nahh dude, you're forgetting Anakin's mom. She was pretty good.
Episode III: 3 Cheers for James Earl Jones!
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Episode III: The Quest for more Money.
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Episode III: Not Your Parents' Cult Classic!
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Episode III: Your Mom
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Episode III: The Quest for more Money.
lol. :p Wasn't it "the search for more money" though? (From Spaceballs I mean..)
Oh, here's my $.02:
Episode III: Attack of the clones again, only they're bad this time.
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Episode III : More fodder for rampant Trekkies
Episode III: Death of Jar-Jar (That one might get some bums on seats since we know that he wasn't in episodes 4-6 so...... )
Episode III: The final stomp on your dreams
Episode III: Queen of the South 4 (only the brits will probably get that one! :D )
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Episode 3: War On Terror
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Episode III: The Empire's WMD
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Episode 3: We've sacked Hayden Christensen!
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(http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/kao/otn/pbraids.gif)
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[color=66ff00]Episode III: The Phantom Storyline.
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Episode 3 : The Final Insult
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Originally posted by Flipside
Episode 3 : The Final Insult
[color=66ff00]Heheh good one.
Episode III: Back for more suckers?
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:lol:
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Do I sense a bit of frustration?
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Originally posted by Liberator
Do I sense a bit of frustration?
[color=66ff00]Liberator I: Understating the obvious.
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When did I become Liberator I(the first)?
Does that mean I'm some kind of royalty now?;)
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hehehehehe
< Waits for Liberator II : > ;)
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Originally posted by Liberator
When did I become Liberator I(the first)?
Does that mean I'm some kind of royalty now?;)
Yes, you're the Dark Lord of the Lunatic Fringe. ;)
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Originally posted by Flipside
hehehehehe
< Waits for Liberator II : > ;)
Liberator II: Liberator I Strikes Back
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:lol:
Oddly enough, Liberator has one of the cooler names in Sci-Fi history ;)
(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/liberator.jpg)
The Liberator from Blakes 7, one of the best British Sci-Fi Series, and almost as worth a remake as Battlestar Galactica :D
We always used to a play a game with old Sci-Fi called 'Count the Washing Up liquid Bottles' :nervous:
Edit : Oh and Liberator II : It's my birthday precious!
Happy Birthday :D
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Thank you!
I'm 26 for those who are wondering. Or more rather will be at 1:33 am on the 24th, about three hours from now.
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GL's problem is that he keeps trying to "homage" the past. AKA rip it off. The shiny, dildo-shaped starships and big fat rayguns and bizzare sound effects all give it either a rush-job or a crappy 50s sci-fi feel.
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Star Wars Episode III: T3h Pwn4G3 0f T3h Kl0N3z
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
GL's problem is that he keeps trying to "homage" the past. AKA rip it off. The shiny, dildo-shaped starships and big fat rayguns and bizzare sound effects all give it either a rush-job or a crappy 50s sci-fi feel.
...and people in white plastic armor shooting black plastic rifles at a woman with cinnamon roll hair isn't cheesy?...
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Not in 1977 it wasn't.
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Originally posted by Flipside
The Liberator from Blakes 7, one of the best British Sci-Fi Series, and almost as worth a remake as Battlestar Galactica :D
We always used to a play a game with old Sci-Fi called 'Count the Washing Up liquid Bottles' :nervous:
I remember on the day that the series ended Blue Peter showed how to make a Blakes Seven prop (either a gun or communicator of some sort) with household rubbish. The funny thing was that it look almost identical to the version on the TV show :D
But yeah. From what I remember of Blakes 7 it was pretty damn good. The funny thing is that if BBC2 had spent 10 million on that instead of that travesty Gormengast they'd have made their money back selling it to America easily.
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As I read through this topic, I realize you have prejudices about Episode III. It will certainly be good. The first two episodes were also good in my opinion, despite what the press says.
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Well... it can't get any worse than ep. 1 and 2 now can it? :nervous:
Can it? :shaking:
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It can, because EP 1 and 2 were good.
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Originally posted by TopAce
It can, because EP 1 and 2 were good.
Let's just say that you're prefectly entitled to your opinion, and enjoyed those movies far more than most people did, and leave it at that, m'kay? ;)
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Ghostavo asked me. So I felt free to post that.
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Originally posted by Ace
Yes, you're the Dark Lord of the Lunatic Fringe. ;)
Oh, Thorn won't be liking that.
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TopAce, I asked everyone in general... :p retoricaly...
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And I'll put my name in the Star Wars: Ep I and II: worst trash to be called sci-fi I've ever seen. I wasn't even that impressed with the visuals.
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
TopAce, I asked everyone in general... :p retoricaly...
And I responded.
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Actually, what made Star Wars TOS work was the characters within. True, Princess Leias hair was incredible, but she would have thrown JarJar into an airlock and opened the door about 30 minutes into Episode 1. Han Solo was just brilliant, and worked really well along Carrie Fishers' acting. Luke just seemed like a clueless kid blundering his way through, and yet matured brilliantly by the end.
For all of the incredible athletics displayed in the fight scenes in the new movies, very few of them, to my mind, are equal to the Jabba's Barge and Final confrontation with Darth, where Luke finally loses his temper, they just rock :)
btw Darth Vaders voice only was James Earl Jones, the actual 'Man in the Black Suit' was an actor whose name escapes me, but he had such well known roles as 'The Jolly Green Giant' and 'The Green Cross Code Man' :)
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See, the original Star Wars was great by 70s standards, cheesy by 90s standards, and campy and retro by todays standards. But the thing that carried them through and made them so great was, like Flipside said, the acting, and as we can see, GL is obviously maniacly obsessed with visuals and not acting, because the acting is some of the worst I've seen in a big-budget film.
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No, aside from Liam Neeson in Ep. 1, the acting has been the worst in a big budget film. Even the Hulk(which I enjoyed when I finally saw it on video a couple months ago) had better acting. The acting was slightly better than Daredevil, but that doesn't matter, it still sucked big piles of monkey stuff.
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Acting ... uhm. I never noticed they were that bad. I'd better see the film once again and put the actors under magnifying glass.
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Originally posted by TopAce
Acting ... uhm. I never noticed they were that bad. I'd better see the film once again and put the actors under magnifying glass.
You failed to notice Hayden Christensen's bad acting? Are you blind AND deaf? :confused:
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Originally posted by Flipside
For all of the incredible athletics displayed in the fight scenes in the new movies, very few of them, to my mind, are equal to the Jabba's Barge and Final confrontation with Darth, where Luke finally loses his temper, they just rock :)
btw Darth Vaders voice only was James Earl Jones, the actual 'Man in the Black Suit' was an actor whose name escapes me, but he had such well known roles as 'The Jolly Green Giant' and 'The Green Cross Code Man' :)
[color=6ff00]Too true, the fight at the end of Jedi just had so much passion and power to it even though as it was pointed out; it's an untrained kid vs. a cripple. Lucas is a fine producer (see Indiana Jones) but he directs eye candy no brainers. The fact that ANH was good is as has been stated simply a side effect of him accidently hiring actors that shone despite the material.
As for the man in black I think you're talking about David Prowse? I know that because he's a local. :)
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Originally posted by karajorma
You failed to notice Hayden Christensen's bad acting? Are you blind AND deaf? :confused:
well I guess watching epp 2 could do that to you
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Come to think of it, even Wedge Antilles developed a following, and he said about 25 words in 3 movies, Boba Fett said even less. I think it's because the acting didn't have the 'Look Mom! I'm on Star Wars!' edge to it :)
I seem to recall somewhere that Wedge's father was the captain of the Corellian Corvette that gets captured at the start of Star Wars? Can anyone verify this?
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Originally posted by karajorma
You failed to notice Hayden Christensen's bad acting? Are you blind AND deaf? :confused:
Around my house he's known as 'Darth Whiner'.
How is that petulant, whining kid going to become teh ultimate Badass that is TEH DARTH VADER?
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Boba Fett didn't say anything in the original trilogy and only says about 10 words in Ep1 and 2.
That's part of his ass-kickin'ness. Not only is he uninterested in discussing your fate with you, he's also so disaffected by the plight of those he's hunting that he doesn't even discuss them with his employer. He doesn't care why they want them, doesn't care who they are and basically doesn't give a crap as long as he gets paid.
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Although, given a Jedi killed his Pops, he's probably got a mad-on for them.
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Methinks he wouldn't give much of a crap seen as he's most likely going to be the biggest Jedi-killer in Ep3. I'm guessing butchering hundreds of them would alleviate his all-cconsuming hatred of them.
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Originally posted by an0n
Boba Fett didn't say anything in the original trilogy and only says about 10 words in Ep1 and 2.
You sure? I seem to remember him having a line about how come Han Solo was no good to him dead before Vader froze him.
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Originally posted by an0n
Methinks he wouldn't give much of a crap seen as he's most likely going to be the biggest Jedi-killer in Ep3. I'm guessing butchering hundreds of them would alleviate his all-cconsuming hatred of them.
He'd be a bit young for that, tho........
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In Ep2 he was. But there's been like 5-10 years between Ep2 and Ep3. So he'd be like 16-20. Which is plenty old enough to become a bounty hunter.
Skywalker was already practically a Jedi Knight by the time he was 20-ish.
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Originally posted by an0n
In Ep2 he was. But there's been like 5-10 years between Ep2 and Ep3. So he'd be like 16-20. Which is plenty old enough to become a bounty hunter.
Skywalker was already practically a Jedi Knight by the time he was 20-ish.
3 years, apparently - I remebered seeing something on this site; http://www.theforce.net/episode3/jtf/timeline.shtml about it in one of my insomnia-induced web surfing sessions.
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Well that's just ****ing retarded.
Then again, They™ said Phantom Menace was going to be good, so They™ could be wrong about this too.
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The commander of the Corellian Corvette wasn't Wedges father, his whole family was killed early into the rebellion. I think that the last name Antellis (sp?) is a fairly common last name in the SW universe, like Jonhson or Anderson and the like. And Boba Fett had a few lines in the classic SW movies, and if you count his screaming and grunting in ROTJ, he had a lot of lines.
And as for ideas of a SW movie, how about the X-Wing saga? Talk about a greate series of books. Hell, if they took material from both the comics and the books, they could do one pretty good mini-series. Same goes for the NJO books. Those are a perfect setting for a mini-series, and a movie series. Or, better yet, they could use the writers and creativ team of KOTOR to do a movie based off that.
Yes, Ep. I and II are horrible movies from a moviemaking standpoint, they are good in the sense that they set the premise for what is to come, if you look at it from a kind of historical standpoint. I just hope that good old George-y boy can pull his act together for Ep. III.
And for those of you who missed the Clone Wars micro-series, you can dowload the latest ten chapters off cartoonnetwork.com. Hell, they are better then Ep. I and II put together, but I don't think they are necessiary to enjoy Ep. III, except for the jedi hunter, who is going to be in the movie. Another point of interest is the Republic Commando game that takes place in between Ep. II and III looks very, very good.
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Originally posted by karajorma
You sure? I seem to remember him having a line about how come Han Solo was no good to him dead before Vader froze him.
"He's no good to me dead."
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Originally posted by Dough with Fish
The commander of the Corellian Corvette wasn't Wedges father, his whole family was killed early into the rebellion. I think that the last name Antellis (sp?) is a fairly common last name in the SW universe, like Jonhson or Anderson and the like.
No, I think that they were actually related in real life. The Captain Antilles of the corvette was Wedge's uncle, I believe. In real life, that is. Their movie characters were not related.
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Originally posted by Flipside
I seem to recall somewhere that Wedge's father was the captain of the Corellian Corvette that gets captured at the start of Star Wars? Can anyone verify this?
I've read in some book or another that there was no relation between the movie characters.
And as for "what would make good movies?".... Thrawn Trilogy, by either Spielberg or Peter Jackson. :D
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Imagine the Thrawn trilogy directed by Spielberg, and produced by Jackson.....
Excuse me, I need to go change my pants
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Originally posted by Sandwich
And as for "what would make good movies?".... Thrawn Trilogy, by either Spielberg or Peter Jackson. :D
Originally posted by Dough with Fish
Imagine the Thrawn trilogy directed by Spielberg, and produced by Jackson.....
:wtf: :nervous:
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Other way around, produced by Spielberg and directed by PJ.
Of course, the same applies to almost any movie where that is the case.
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[color=66ff00]You do know that Mr. Spielberg asked Lucas if he could direct the next starwars movie but Lucas turned him down.
*Hark! I hear a death knell...*
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*pulls the knife from Thunder's head*
Sorry, did you say something?
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]You do know that Mr. Spielberg asked Lucas if he could direct the next starwars movie but Lucas turned him down.
*Hark! I hear a death knell...*
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I remember reading that way back when on a few fan sites, but I thought that the general conclusion reached was that it was just a rumor..... Maybe it was true, I don't know.
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[color=66ff00]Somebody interviewed Mr. Spielberg about the projects he was interested in and he mentioned it himself.
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Please correct this if it's wrong, but I've heard that because Lucas was pretty new on the film making scene he wasn't allowed free reign with the original 3 films? Now that SW has made him famous, he's been allowed to do anything he wants and we all know the results of that. :doubt:
See, I liked the ideas behind the first 2 films so far. The political manipulation by Palpatine: the fact that the whole Naboo thing was staged essentially only to get Palpatine into power; EpII was all about him getting the authority to weild a massive army as a move towards the events we know are going to happen. (which was then rammed down our throats in case we missed it :rolleyes: ) They were good themes to use, I like films with devious behind-the-scenes maniplulation of events.
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The themes were okay, but they were poorly executed.
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I'm still getting over the power of eps 4-6. I mean, they pretty much created the space opera genre in movies. I can hardly imagine how eps 1-3 were ever going to live up to that.
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well they could start by not sucking.
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Agreed :nod:
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The prequels...well, the Phantom Menace seems to be a poor ripoff of ANH. It's like someone went over ANH, took the basic points, then decided to make it more civillized. There's no urgency, not much action. Overall, the movie seems have a lot in common with the corridors of the Trade Federation starships - lifeless and empty.
Everything is very proper, there's no real raw emotion or real choices for the characters to work with. Hell, the line that might've given a sense of urgency - "People are dying!" is dismissed with "It's a trick!". This could've been capitlized on, with a little work, by making it a bigger part of the plot. Thus we, the audience, sympathize more with the main characters and get more involved in the movie.
To summarize: TPM doesn't seem fun or tense or emotional, just a bunch of blocked scenes with occassional lines.
Episode 2 takes a step in the right direction. Though when you see the changes since Episode 1 (everything but characters' names), it makes you wonder if Lucas didn't want to get away from TPM himself. Then you learn, oh, it's supposed to be a parallel from ANH and ESB...then you wonder why Lucas is copying from himself. :wtf:
rant rant rant.... :hopping: (Edited for time and space :p)
Anyway, supposedly Lucas says we're supposed to hate the new Star Wars movie b/c it's so dark. Sounds like a ploy to lower expectations to me. On the other hand, maybe if Lucas writes something he expects us to hate, we'll get a masterpiece. :D
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Personally, I hated the Phantom Menace. Clones wasn't bad in any scene not involving these characters:
Anakin
Padme
Dooku
Jar Jar
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Cristopher Lee is the man, they just never give him any good lines, which sucks for him quite a bit. Gypped with Saruman, then with Dooku.
I'd like to see an encounter with Jar Jar and a Sivan personally.
"Heya, meesa Jar Ja...aaaaaaaaaaaaah!" *RIIIIPPPPP* (ripping sound)
-Random Person: "EEW theres pieces of a bad CG character here!!" *looks at something somewhat to the left of the piece of Jar Jar
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It wasn't his acting. It was the writing. He acted very well given his lines, but there is only so much you can do with utter bull****.
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Yeah, set it on fire and watch it burn.
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Originally posted by Arc
See, I liked the ideas behind the first 2 films so far. The political manipulation by Palpatine: the fact that the whole Naboo thing was staged essentially only to get Palpatine into power; EpII was all about him getting the authority to weild a massive army as a move towards the events we know are going to happen. (which was then rammed down our throats in case we missed it :rolleyes: ) They were good themes to use, I like films with devious behind-the-scenes maniplulation of events.
Except the parts where the movies actually contradict themselves...
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[color=66ff00]Passes Greywolf and an0n a cookie in respect for the last two posts.
Episode III: A Negligable Hope
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Originally posted by karajorma
You failed to notice Hayden Christensen's bad acting? Are you blind AND deaf? :confused:
I saw Ep 2 merely once. So it was not the thing I was paying attention to.
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Episode 3: Return of the Stink-Eye....
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In EP. II almost everything's acceptable with the first viewing. However, as soon as you watch it a second time, you see how much it sucks.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
In EP. II almost everything's acceptable with the first viewing. However, as soon as you watch it a second time, you see how much it sucks.
Especially after you are told to watch its mistakes. ;)
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That's why I don't read reviews before seeing movies, they make me look for the mistakes :D
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[color=66ff00]You have to admit though, for kids who've never seen any of them to sit down and watch Starwars in chronological order it must be cool.
Think about it, you dredge through episodes 1+2(and presumably 3) and wonder what all the hype was about, then you get to a new hope and everything starts to get cool all of a sudden.
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The Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon vs. Darth Maul was already cool.
The battle inside the arena of Geonosis was even cooler.
Space battles are better in the later episodes, I admir.
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[EDIT] Sorry for the double post, my internet connection is a bit crappy.
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Originally posted by TopAce
I saw Ep 2 merely once. So it was not the thing I was paying attention to.
Well tear your eyes away from Natalie Portman's breasts next time and listen to the dialogue ;)
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Honsty, there's one line in Ep II that summed the whole thing up for me: "I'm beside myself." If you don't know where this quote came from, well, I don't know how you missed it. Why the script had to stoop so low as to include such pathetic wouldn't-even-cut-it-in-crappy-sitcom jokes that serve no purpose and make you want to rip the talking head of C3P0 apart. Or the frollicing cow scene. Or the conveyor belt fight. Yeah. All these scenes were really not necessary, and were only included for Lucas to show off some demented idea he made "real" with ILM. Combined with the crappy acting, no amount of special effects are going to make up for the fact that the movie sucked. The effects were well done, they just had no vision. Even the massively orchistrated Battle of Naboo in Ep I had no flare, it was just shiny spaceships duking it out while the real battle happened on the ground and some annoying brat managed to do what a squadron of elite pilots could not simply by saying "hey, I wonder what this does" or "spinning's a good move." Put in a plot that makes the random battles make some sense, and you've got a great thing. Put in the battles with some weak story that pretends (and fails) to put the whole thing together and you get Eps I and II. It's not Star Wars.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Well tear your eyes away from Natalie Portman's breasts next time and listen to the dialogue ;)
:)
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Originally posted by karajorma
Well tear your eyes away from Natalie Portman's breasts next time and listen to the dialogue ;)
Why?
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Cause you can't say that it was a good film unless you've actually watched the film itself rather than the soft-core porn version you think you saw :D
On the other hand as long as you aren't going to express an opinion on the film feel free to stare away ;)
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Natalie Portman isn't even that hot. She looks 13 to me.
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
Natalie Portman isn't even that hot. She looks 13 to me.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Natalie Portman was...amazing. You notice you could see her boobs in that shirt? It was partially see-thru :D
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Wheres that Bloody AVI?!?!?!?!111111oneoneone
LOL j/k :D
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However...
John Williams still has skill, even though Lucas doesn't. That Obi Wan & old loser Jedi vs. Darth Maul music is just awesome. :yes:
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John Williams is awesome, saw him at the Albert Hall once :) Duel of the Fates is a great track, yes :)
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Natalie Portman was...amazing. You notice you could see her boobs in that shirt? It was partially see-thru :D
Despite complaining at TopAce about it, it seems evident that I didn't play Natalie Portman's breasts enough attention :lol:
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John Williams and Natalie Portman's tits saved that movie from being just like some campy 80's film with better graphics
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Now THAT'S a movie with a plot I'd watch ;)
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lol, seriously guys.. you have to get out more. Natalie Portman is "alright" on her best day. She's pretty, but I wouldn't consider her the saving grace of women.
Take a cold shower and hit the streets, you'll find hundreds of teens her or your age twice or thrice as hot. And, guess what, you'll actually be able to talk to them *gasp*
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Originally posted by karajorma
Despite complaining at TopAce about it, it seems evident that I didn't play Natalie Portman's breasts enough attention :lol:
You were listening to the dialogues, we know. :cool: