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		Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Splinter on April 24, 2004, 09:43:45 am
		
			
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				http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=61203
			
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				Originally posted by Splinter 
 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=61203
 
 
 :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
 
  Originally posted by Steve Iriwin
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				That's fast.
			
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				"10 GHz"
 :eek2: ****!
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				eh?
 
 i don't get it, electronic signals should be going at the speed of light, right?
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				That's... fast alright. Too bad it's intel... (and I'm not trying to start one of those threads, but I just don't like intel)
			
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				Originally posted by kasperl 
 i don't get it, electronic signals should be going at the speed of light, right?
 
 no
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				Originally posted by Raa Tor'h 
 That's... fast alright. Too bad it's intel... (and I'm not trying to start one of those threads, but I just don't like intel)
 
 
 lol dont worry niether do I :D
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				perty darned fast. fedration starships have mini warp drives on their computers than allow data to be transfered at FTL speeds. the cardassians can even do it as high as warp 2.
			
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				I see someone's been getting ready for Doom 3.
			
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				< starts saving >
 
 iirc the standard actual 'speed' of electricity is 6cm per second. The reason it seems so fast though is because of the Newtons Cradle effect, i.e, one electron hits one end and pushes another electron out the other...though it's been donkey's years since I tried to remember :)
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				Originally posted by Carl 
 perty darned fast. fedration starships have mini warp drives on their computers than allow data to be transfered at FTL speeds. the cardassians can even do it as high as warp 2.
 
 
 huhyousaidwhat?
 
 It'll still bottleneck at the hard drive, until solid state drive become gigantic and cheap like modern disk-based drives.
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				O_o
 
 Mamamia!!!!!!! That eez one fast thingamajig!!!!!!!!
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				:eek2:
 
 mwhu..
 
 Wonder when theyll be distributed.
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				I look forward to the astonishing military innovations this will bring us.
			
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				problem is, It wont get any faster now :P
			
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				It is faster than a snail with a low-maintance afterburner. :)
			
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				Hard drive bottlenecks will be reduced considerably once someone writes an OS that doesn't need a massive chunk of it regardless of how much memory you have.
 Most games 'should' be capable of running without accessing the Hard Drive at any point except at the very start of missions etc.
 USB Ramdrives are pretty useful, if you assign that whole drive as your virtual memory ;)
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				Originally posted by kasperl 
 eh?
 
 i don't get it, electronic signals should be going at the speed of light, right?
 
 [color=66ff00]To elaborate on Bob's answer; electronic signals are the result of a flow of electrical current which consists of moving electrons which are particles. Light is an electromagnetic wave, it consists of an integrated magnetic and electric field so it's nature is completely different, EM fields can propogate without the need for solid matter but electricity requires a conducter and electrons. The conductive material itself impedes the electron flow due to electrons colliding with the atoms in the conducter and hence you get an overall slowing effect. This is the basis for electrical resistance BTW.
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				Ah.  I've been wondering when a light-based alternative would be developed...... methinks it's been prophesied as long as 10/20 years ago that we'd need to change transmission medium to get the desired speed levels.
			
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				I wonder what other future innovations will be coming along, those which have been predicted anyway. I see the development of molecular transistors in the next few decades, then subsequently, nano technology :D
			
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				What're the chances that, despite the new chips supposedly costing about the same to manufacure, we'll be paying about five times more for this optical thingy than we do for old-skool hardware?
			
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				Of course, that's commerce ;)
			
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				:blah: 
 
 probably...
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				EDIT
 
 Teach me not to read the rest of the page...
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				Originally posted by Jiggyhound 
 problem is, It wont get any faster now :P
 
 
 Two words:
 Quantum Computer
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				Very good and all, but will it run Windows XP? ;)
 
 Seriously though - this is some impressive stuff. I was beginning to worry that technological breakthroughs were a thing of the past and that everyone was to preoccupied elsewhere to care about advancing human creations. Nice to know I can play Doom 3 with decent frame rates now.
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				Yup.......ub3r fast computers.......
 
 Now it is 500% garaunteed that developers are going to make games that cause it to hit ~5 FPS.
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				I'm waiting for one of these to be used in a GPU on a video card first...
			
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				Originally posted by Kalfireth 
 Very good and all, but will it run Windows XP? ;)
 
 
 
 if we know how the mind of bill gates works, we can expect an iteration of Windows to run on such hardware..:p
 
 as soon as we can clone human limbs, so we can literally pay an arm and a leg for it.:ha:
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				Damn. :eek2:
 
 Sandwich, you really were serious about getting a new video card, weren't you? A bit underhanded, this... :doubt:
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				Finally, optical computing. This has been a research item in Alpha Centauri for years, I'm surprised it took them this long to catch up. ;)
			
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				LOL Masters of Orion have been using this stuff for years as well, I'm sure I saw prototype, really basic Optical computer on Tomorrows World when I was, like, 13 :D
			
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				Originally posted by Kalfireth 
 Nice to know I can play Doom 3 with decent frame rates now.
 
 
 yeah, but you'd have to pay a small fortune for the chip ;)
 
 
 kasperl:  no, light is faster.  that's the reason there's fiber optic backbones going across the oceans, and not twisted pair copper.  OK well there's other reasons too, but yeah: light > electric
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				acording to the article the optical chips should cost about the same as the current ones
			
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				Now that is an achievement. Fabrication at reasonable costs doesn't usually characterise kick-arse technology like this. :)
			
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				Erm, electrons move slow.  Really slow.
 
 Electricity moves fast enough to be considered speed of light.  i.e. the signals move that fast (and yes it's due to that electrons colliding effect).
 
 
 
 I see it that using light as the signals has the benefit that we don't need copper traces to conduct them so it can get smaller.
 
 Interestinly enough, at a certain point (where electrons start behaving like waves), we might be going back to electrons again since they have a smaller wavelength than light (which is why we have electron microscopes).
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				Haven't they had really expensive military hardware running on this same principle for years?
			
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				Originally posted by Bobboau 
 acording to the article the optical chips should cost about the same as the current ones
 
 
 remember the Pentium 4 prescott?
 
 they said it would cost $175, but when it was released it cost $500.
 
 you can't go with what articles say prices will be...
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				This is the company that Intel bought up a year or two ago, isn't it?
			
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				Imagine what this will do to email. Getting a gig of spam in one click!
			
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				Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009 
 This is the company that Intel bought up a year or two ago, isn't it?
 
 
 nah friend worked there about 5 years ago and he was by far not the first... hold ill check it.
 
 EDIT: around 1975
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				i remmeber posting this forever ago... :P
			
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				Originally posted by Singh 
 Yup.......ub3r fast computers.......
 
 Now it is 500% garaunteed that developers are going to make games that cause it to hit ~5 FPS.
 
 
 Make a 65536x65536 subspace texture, remove the HTL flag and try to destroy the Lucifer. ;)
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				Originally posted by Splinter 
 
 
 nah friend worked there about 5 years ago and he was by far not the first... hold ill check it.
 
 EDIT: around 1975
 Just wondering. They've been buying up quite a few Israeli tech companies recently.