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Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Splinter on April 24, 2004, 09:43:45 am
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=61203
Title: Re: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Turnsky on April 24, 2004, 09:50:24 am
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Originally posted by Splinter
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=61203


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Originally posted by Steve Iriwin
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Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Corsair on April 24, 2004, 09:57:59 am
That's fast.
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Bobboau on April 24, 2004, 10:01:20 am
"10 GHz"
:eek2: ****!
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: kasperl on April 24, 2004, 10:08:49 am
eh?

i don't get it, electronic signals should be going at the speed of light, right?
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Taristin on April 24, 2004, 10:09:50 am
That's... fast alright. Too bad it's intel... (and I'm not trying to start one of those threads, but I just don't like intel)
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Bobboau on April 24, 2004, 10:12:53 am
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Originally posted by kasperl
i don't get it, electronic signals should be going at the speed of light, right?

no
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Splinter on April 24, 2004, 10:36:10 am
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
That's... fast alright. Too bad it's intel... (and I'm not trying to start one of those threads, but I just don't like intel)


lol dont worry niether do I :D
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Carl on April 24, 2004, 11:18:35 am
perty darned fast. fedration starships have mini warp drives on their computers than allow data to be transfered at FTL speeds. the cardassians can even do it as high as warp 2.
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Rictor on April 24, 2004, 11:21:53 am
I see someone's been getting ready for Doom 3.
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Post by: Flipside on April 24, 2004, 11:25:11 am
< starts saving >

iirc the standard actual 'speed' of electricity is 6cm per second. The reason it seems so fast though is because of the Newtons Cradle effect, i.e, one electron hits one end and pushes another electron out the other...though it's been donkey's years since I tried to remember :)
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Post by: Liberator on April 24, 2004, 12:40:05 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
perty darned fast. fedration starships have mini warp drives on their computers than allow data to be transfered at FTL speeds. the cardassians can even do it as high as warp 2.


huhyousaidwhat?

It'll still bottleneck at the hard drive, until solid state drive become gigantic and cheap like modern disk-based drives.
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Post by: Singh on April 24, 2004, 12:43:42 pm
O_o

Mamamia!!!!!!! That eez one fast thingamajig!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Jiggyhound on April 24, 2004, 12:44:44 pm
:eek2:

mwhu..

Wonder when theyll be distributed.
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Post by: Janos on April 24, 2004, 12:49:51 pm
I look forward to the astonishing military innovations this will bring us.
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Post by: Jiggyhound on April 24, 2004, 12:53:24 pm
problem is, It wont get any faster now :P
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Post by: TopAce on April 24, 2004, 12:57:33 pm
It is faster than a snail with a low-maintance afterburner. :)
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Flipside on April 24, 2004, 01:31:20 pm
Hard drive bottlenecks will be reduced considerably once someone writes an OS that doesn't need a massive chunk of it regardless of how much memory you have.
Most games 'should' be capable of running without accessing the Hard Drive at any point except at the very start of missions etc.
USB Ramdrives are pretty useful, if you assign that whole drive as your virtual memory ;)
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Martinus on April 24, 2004, 02:35:08 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
eh?

i don't get it, electronic signals should be going at the speed of light, right?

[color=66ff00]To elaborate on Bob's answer; electronic signals are the result of a flow of electrical current which consists of moving electrons which are particles. Light is an electromagnetic wave, it consists of an integrated magnetic and electric field so it's nature is completely different, EM fields can propogate without the need for solid matter but electricity requires a conducter and electrons. The conductive material itself impedes the electron flow due to electrons colliding with the atoms in the conducter and hence you get an overall slowing effect. This is the basis for electrical resistance BTW.
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Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: aldo_14 on April 24, 2004, 02:49:07 pm
Ah.  I've been wondering when a light-based alternative would be developed...... methinks it's been prophesied as long as 10/20 years ago that we'd need to change transmission medium to get the desired speed levels.
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Post by: Jiggyhound on April 24, 2004, 03:25:04 pm
I wonder what other future innovations will be coming along, those which have been predicted anyway. I see the development of molecular transistors in the next few decades, then subsequently, nano technology :D
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Post by: diamondgeezer on April 24, 2004, 03:29:54 pm
What're the chances that, despite the new chips supposedly costing about the same to manufacure, we'll be paying about five times more for this optical thingy than we do for old-skool hardware?
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Post by: Flipside on April 24, 2004, 03:32:07 pm
Of course, that's commerce ;)
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Post by: Jiggyhound on April 24, 2004, 03:34:33 pm
:blah:

probably...
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: demon442 on April 25, 2004, 12:01:59 am
EDIT

Teach me not to read the rest of the page...
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Ace on April 25, 2004, 01:33:28 am
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Originally posted by Jiggyhound
problem is, It wont get any faster now :P


Two words:
Quantum Computer
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Fineus on April 25, 2004, 03:15:52 am
Very good and all, but will it run Windows XP? ;)

Seriously though - this is some impressive stuff. I was beginning to worry that technological breakthroughs were a thing of the past and that everyone was to preoccupied elsewhere to care about advancing human creations. Nice to know I can play Doom 3 with decent frame rates now.
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Post by: Singh on April 25, 2004, 03:56:58 am
Yup.......ub3r fast computers.......

Now it is 500% garaunteed that developers are going to make games that cause it to hit ~5 FPS.
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Taristin on April 25, 2004, 10:33:31 am
I'm waiting for one of these to be used in a GPU on a video card first...
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Post by: Turnsky on April 25, 2004, 10:37:35 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Very good and all, but will it run Windows XP? ;)
 


if we know how the mind of bill gates works, we can expect an iteration of Windows to run on such hardware..:p

as soon as we can clone human limbs, so we can literally pay an arm and a leg for it.:ha:
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Post by: WMCoolmon on April 25, 2004, 12:29:26 pm
Damn. :eek2:

Sandwich, you really were serious about getting a new video card, weren't you? A bit underhanded, this... :doubt:
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Post by: Setekh on April 25, 2004, 07:12:06 pm
Finally, optical computing. This has been a research item in Alpha Centauri for years, I'm surprised it took them this long to catch up. ;)
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Post by: Flipside on April 25, 2004, 07:14:33 pm
LOL Masters of Orion have been using this stuff for years as well, I'm sure I saw prototype, really basic Optical computer on Tomorrows World when I was, like, 13 :D
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Post by: Stealth on April 25, 2004, 07:16:45 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Nice to know I can play Doom 3 with decent frame rates now.


yeah, but you'd have to pay a small fortune for the chip ;)


kasperl:  no, light is faster.  that's the reason there's fiber optic backbones going across the oceans, and not twisted pair copper.  OK well there's other reasons too, but yeah: light > electric
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Post by: Bobboau on April 25, 2004, 07:43:54 pm
acording to the article the optical chips should cost about the same as the current ones
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Post by: Setekh on April 25, 2004, 08:03:01 pm
Now that is an achievement. Fabrication at reasonable costs doesn't usually characterise kick-arse technology like this. :)
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Post by: ChronoReverse on April 25, 2004, 08:05:13 pm
Erm, electrons move slow.  Really slow.

Electricity moves fast enough to be considered speed of light.  i.e. the signals move that fast (and yes it's due to that electrons colliding effect).



I see it that using light as the signals has the benefit that we don't need copper traces to conduct them so it can get smaller.

Interestinly enough, at a certain point (where electrons start behaving like waves), we might be going back to electrons again since they have a smaller wavelength than light (which is why we have electron microscopes).
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 25, 2004, 08:52:09 pm
Haven't they had really expensive military hardware running on this same principle for years?
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Stealth on April 25, 2004, 10:23:34 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau
acording to the article the optical chips should cost about the same as the current ones


remember the Pentium 4 prescott?

they said it would cost $175, but when it was released it cost $500.

you can't go with what articles say prices will be...
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Post by: Grey Wolf on April 25, 2004, 10:31:16 pm
This is the company that Intel bought up a year or two ago, isn't it?
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Cabbie on April 26, 2004, 01:02:14 am
Imagine what this will do to email. Getting a gig of spam in one click!
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Post by: Splinter on April 26, 2004, 03:28:10 am
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
This is the company that Intel bought up a year or two ago, isn't it?


nah friend worked there about 5 years ago and he was by far not the first... hold ill check it.

EDIT: around 1975
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Post by: Drew on April 26, 2004, 10:01:00 am
i remmeber posting this forever ago... :P
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Post by: TopAce on April 26, 2004, 10:42:05 am
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Originally posted by Singh
Yup.......ub3r fast computers.......

Now it is 500% garaunteed that developers are going to make games that cause it to hit ~5 FPS.


Make a 65536x65536 subspace texture, remove the HTL flag and try to destroy the Lucifer. ;)
Title: anyone for data at the speed of light?
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 26, 2004, 04:31:18 pm
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Originally posted by Splinter


nah friend worked there about 5 years ago and he was by far not the first... hold ill check it.

EDIT: around 1975
Just wondering. They've been buying up quite a few Israeli tech companies recently.