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Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 25, 2004, 08:07:16 pm
Is it just me, or do Microsoft's newer products seem more...feminine in nature?

The old:
(http://members.cox.net/~wmcoolmon/images/vc5.gif)


The new:
(http://members.cox.net/~wmcoolmon/images/vc7.gif)

I have to say I prefer the usable utilitarian interface of IDEs long past to the new, flowery, look....
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 25, 2004, 08:17:13 pm
I don't really notice that much of a difference.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: Bobboau on April 25, 2004, 08:20:23 pm
show something with a bit more complex code in it
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: demon442 on April 25, 2004, 11:15:44 pm
Not fimenine, but more accessable to newer programmers most definately.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: adwight on April 25, 2004, 11:25:22 pm
That's a C++ compiler right?  I don't really see much difference between the two.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 26, 2004, 01:05:17 am
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Originally posted by demon442
Not fimenine, but more accessable to newer programmers most definately.


:doubt: The best sign that Microsoft designers have no lives is that they never KISS. .NET has so many extra "helpful" features that once you know what you're doing, they just keep getting in the way.

Edit: Well, okay, I don't really *know* what I'm doing a lot of the time, but even then they get in the way. ;)
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Post by: Knight Templar on April 26, 2004, 01:24:16 am
feminine..? Because the panel is now on the right and they answer more questions? :wtf:
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Post by: Fineus on April 26, 2004, 02:52:12 am
Actually the GUI overall looks a lot more smoothed, weaker lines and so forth. I'm not sure I like it since in the old days whenever a program crashed it looked like that before it took the whole system down with it - so just looking at it creates a sort of a knee jerk reaction for me.
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Post by: an0n on April 26, 2004, 07:00:34 am
I thought he meant because the paperclip calls you a pig and makes you sleep on the couch.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: Unknown Target on April 26, 2004, 11:03:20 am
M$ is just trying to streamline the apps and make them look better. Think about it, would you rather stare at a pretty (fmeinine) desk receptionist for an hour, or some 50-year old woman who chain-smokes 12 packs a day and uses a butterknife to shave her moustache?
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Post by: ZylonBane on April 26, 2004, 11:07:36 am
Is there any way to force .NET to pop open help in its own window, instead trying to jam everything into that overcomplicated mega-tabbed monstrosity?

(had to work with VB.NET for a class, still using VB6 at work)
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 26, 2004, 02:28:18 pm
Right-click the name and click "Floating". To move it back just drag it into the tabs area.

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Originally posted by Unknown Target
M$ is just trying to streamline the apps and make them look better. Think about it, would you rather stare at a pretty (fmeinine) desk receptionist for an hour, or some 50-year old woman who chain-smokes 12 packs a day and uses a butterknife to shave her moustache?


Usually I don't stare at the IDE window for an hour while coding. I try to see the code, which seems to be becoming increasingly secondary with all these user-friendly "helper" tools that eat up more memory and multiple the loading time by 4. :doubt:
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Post by: an0n on April 26, 2004, 02:38:30 pm
I'd rather stare at the old woman. Old receptionist women kick ass.

They're the only old people I actually like, c'z they've spent decades being hit on by slimey middle-management people and have developed a cool "I could outsmart yo' punk-ass in my sleep" attitude. And as anyone with half an ounce of sense knows, the receptionists and secretaries have the real power in any office.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: Krackers87 on April 26, 2004, 02:49:08 pm
Case #2202 of too much time on ones hands..
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Post by: an0n on April 26, 2004, 02:54:05 pm
Yes........'time'.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: Kazan on April 26, 2004, 07:32:36 pm
sexist
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 26, 2004, 07:36:04 pm
*shrugs* Find me a better word w/ the same connotations.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: Kazan on April 26, 2004, 07:51:49 pm
it's not effeminate in any meaning of the word
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 26, 2004, 07:58:47 pm
Dictionary.com:
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Having qualities or characteristics more often associated with women than men.


Stereotypically, women want to make things more friendly, cheerful, peaceful, etc etc.
Stereotypically, men want things to be more useful, powerful, simpler, etc etc.
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: Kazan on April 26, 2004, 08:07:01 pm
it's still all in your head that one has "friendly, cheerful, peaceful" qualities in that interface
Title: IS Microsoft getting more...effeminate?
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 26, 2004, 08:11:03 pm
More like it's trying to be those, but yeah, that's my opinion.