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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gloriano on April 30, 2004, 09:06:38 am
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On the 12 th of May, Day 1 of E3, Sega will showcase to the world it's re-entry into the Console hardware arena.
We first reported on a rumour regarding Sega returning to hardware about a month ago, but now the rumour is a reality, Financially revitalised, finally debt free, Sega now firmly belives it has what it takes to rule the roost.
But why you may ask are they doing this? wouldn't it be suicide? well no, not really. You see when Sega was making the dreamcast hardware it was selling an average of between 25-30 million units of software per year. Since going third party that number has always remained in the 6-10 million range. Besides the reason for going third party in the first place was to stop the losses and have a chance to get rid of it's debt (well over a billion dollars). Third party was never a permanent business plan. Did Isao Okawa give away he's life savings to save a software developer? No! re-entering hardware in the next round was always the plan. Did Sammy splash out half a billion dollars just for arcade floor space? No!
What we're trying to get at is that the signs have always been there, but now rejoice!
IT IS TIME FOR THE BIGGEST COMEBACK STORY OF ALL TIME.
*Update* A Sega rep has informed us that the next machine will be of platinum color.
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and here is some little older news http://general.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/6272/
I gotta say wow! but damn next console war there is too many consoles already and now there is one more:)
Damn I think this years E3 going to rock
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atomiswave for the home market, perhaps... which in itself is a cut-down dreamcast.
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Eh, gotta wait and see. If they launch the new console with a brand new Phantasy Star game (a real Phantasy Star, not the online crap) I might as well have a good reason to buy one.
:p
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More than anything, I am praying for Shenmue III.
The saga MUST continue.
*zoom in on clenched fist, orchestral scores play*
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I always hated Sega, to be honest. I don't know why. I grew up in the age of 8-bit nintendo's and sega, and had both, but nintendo had to be my favorite. Since then, Sega has held a bad taste in my mouth. Not fair for them, as they had some cool games on the dreamcast.
I don't know how they'd fair in the current market of consoles. I think they'd have a better chance competing against Gameboy and N Gage than consoles.
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Personally, I think Sega are gonna beat the living **** out of everyone.
The most important thing in the launch of a new console is the games that are available for it. And what's Sega been solely devoted to for the past year or two?
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I call bull****. Sega were bought by Sammy, one of the largest maker of pachinko machines in Japan. Sammy have all but canned most of Sega's arcade projects and pulled a fair few games too.
It doesn't make any sense, especially with the market being as crowded as it is at the moment.
Not that it wouldn't ****ing rock mind you, Sega are my favourite hardware maker and software wise nothing compares.
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Originally posted by an0n
Personally, I think Sega are gonna beat the living **** out of everyone.
The most important thing in the launch of a new console is the games that are available for it. And what's Sega been solely devoted to for the past year or two?
Well, they made game, but some of them were really crap ( gun walkyrie for exemple ).
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One can only hope that the soul of the Saturn will live on in this new unit. Maybe we can even get a sequel to Panzer Dragoon Saga (the second greatest RPG of all time).
*hugs his Saturn*
*hugs his Panzer Dragoon Saga*
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Sweet. I always regreted Sega getting out of the console market. The only console I've ever owned was a Playstation that broke down after 2 months, but I still want to see the old school (Sega and Nintendo) survive in the face of the upstart corporate scumbags (read: MS).
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Sega will rock!!!
:nervous:
*hugs his mega drive and his sonic games amongst others*
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[color=66ff00]Yeah, I love the DC, it's a great machine.
Here's hoping that SEGA have identified what made the DC sales tepid. THis is hte best thing I've heard in a long time.
I'm going to call Yu Suzuki and ask him where I can get a copy of Shenmue Three. ;)
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Yeah, I love the DC, it's a great machine.
Here's hoping that SEGA have identified what made the DC sales tepid. THis is hte best thing I've heard in a long time.
I'm going to call Yu Suzuki and ask him where I can get a copy of Shenmue Three. ;)
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Sega's advertising has always sucked. The DC was a way superior machine to the PS2 and had a years head start also. They blew it, just like they did with the Saturn. Rampant piracy didn't help either though.
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The Dreamcast had stupid games.
Who the **** wants to play a fishing game?
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Originally posted by an0n
The Dreamcast had stupid games.
Who the **** wants to play a fishing game?
those who bought the game. at least you didn't bring up tokyo bus guide... that is a weird game.
all consoles have stupid games.
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Yeah, but the DC had a worse good:**** ratio than most.
And the wierd controllers didn't help.
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Originally posted by an0n
Yeah, but the DC had a worse good:**** ratio than most.
And the wierd controllers didn't help.
the nes has the biggest good:**** ratio I've seen. but it doesn't matter when it comes to DC as soul calibur was released for it. that makes up for everything else. and you kind of get used to the controllers not as good as the gamecube ones tho.
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IMO, the GameCube kicks the ass of everything except the SNES.
Playstation games are either too hard, too shallow or too stupid. And X-Box games are too narrow and WAY too expensive.
The GameCube has awesome games like Rogue Leader, Rocky and Metroid.
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Originally posted by an0n
IMO, the GameCube kicks the ass of everything except the SNES.
Playstation games are either too hard, too shallow or too stupid. And X-Box games are too narrow and WAY too expensive.
The GameCube has awesome games like Rogue Leader, Rocky and Metroid.
Rocky is multi platform.
I have a GC but it doesn't get as much lovin as the pc or the 'box quite simply because I can't ****ing stand the controller, I have massive hands that make the original Xbox controller look small in comparison so thats probably why. The GC has Viewtiful Joe though which is sublime.
How do you mean the Xbox games are too narrow? As for expense, just wait a few weeks and buy them pre owned and trade in old **** you don't play, I do it all the time, I haven't even paid for my last three games.
Also, not only did theDC have Soul Calibur, it had both Powerstone games, Virtua fighter 3, Shenmue, San Fran Cisco Rush and a **** ton of games that were awesome that I can't even remember.
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X-Box games only ever really have one kind of objective.
If it's a shooting game, all you do is shoot. If it's a racing game, all you do is race.
Whereas if you take, say, Rogue Leader (and Rebel Strike) on the GameCube: You've got dog-fighting, bombing, troop supression, obstacle courses and even some 'walk around and shoot things' going on.
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[color=66ff00]Yeah on DC you also had Rez, MSR, Phantasy Star online, Crazy taxi 1+2, House of the dead 1+2, Grandia, typing of the dead (more fun than it sounds), Skies of arcadia, Starlancer and many more. A lot of the great games for it most people haven't even heard of.
DC had a great lineup it's just that lack of advertising killed almost all possibility of anyone hearing about them. :sigh:
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House Of The Dead kicked some serious frickin ass.
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the console market is becoming waaaaaaaaaaaay to saturated :-/
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ALL HAIL THE PC!!!!!!!
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I don't even buy games for the PS2. I think the last game I bought for the PS2 was GTA: Vice City. Games nowadays are too short. In 15 hours you finish a regular game (not an rpg) with no replay value so what's the point of buying it? I just rent the game and return it in a week. If I haven't finished it yet, I just rent it again.
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You missed a step: "Copy the games".
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and : "sell the copies"
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Originally posted by an0n
You missed a step: "Copy the games".
Oh... Me too.... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Jiggyhound
and : "sell the copies"
Who's idiot enough to buy a copy? :doubt:
That worked back then, when nobody had internet ( meh, I sold quite a lot of Indianapolis500, go wonder... ), but now yu can get ISOs of about anything for free.
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Actually I really hoped that Sega would stick with what they do best, that is, make great games and stay out of the hardware biz. Their games are already ported to the PS2 and Xbox so what's the point of putting another system out the market? In the end we as the gamers will be the ones paying extra. Why? Because we'll have no choice but to purchase Sega's new system if we want to play their (best) games in the future.
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Originally posted by an0n
X-Box games only ever really have one kind of objective.
If it's a shooting game, all you do is shoot. If it's a racing game, all you do is race.
Whereas if you take, say, Rogue Leader (and Rebel Strike) on the GameCube: You've got dog-fighting, bombing, troop supression, obstacle courses and even some 'walk around and shoot things' going on.
That's more a symptom with the games than the console itself. What I tend to find with Xbox games is that because the hardware is capable of more effects than other consoles (pixel shaders and ****) it's possible to make realistic looking games which is what everyone seems to be doing. There are some original games on the box though, stuff like Steel Batallion, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden as well as stuff that's yet to come out like BC (which is going to kick so much ass). Thing with the GC is that it has Nintendo games on it and Nintendo are a great developer of original ideas (Pikmin for one, love that game), what the GC really needs badly is a decent Mario game cause Sunshine was crap.
It's all good to me though cause I own 'em both and can afford to buy games for both of em.
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Sega is going down :no:
Sega press event's big annoucement was partner ship with warner bros to produce the MMORPG [Matrix online
and that very much SUCK
I'am going little visit in SEGA HQ with biggest weapon I find
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
Sega is going down :no:
Sega press event's big annoucement was partner ship with warner bros to produce the MMORPG [Matrix online
and that very much SUCK
I'am going little visit in SEGA HQ with biggest weapon I find
I'll join you
*grabs rocket launcher from closet*