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Title: my truespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 02, 2004, 10:25:05 am
already posted it in another topic, but it;s an update, and i don't want to use someone else's topic for it.

(http://members.lycos.nl/durandalarw/TSschip.JPG)

i got rid of the annoying edges at the nose.
hell, i completely redid the nose :p

anyway, now i have to find something for that really large open area.
and find something for the rest of the frotn, can't all stuff it with antennae.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Taristin on May 02, 2004, 10:26:36 am
Needs _alot_ more detail, and maybe beveled edges, but I realize it's a WIP, and I'd like to see where it's going. :yes:
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on May 02, 2004, 10:28:08 am
Is it gonna be something like Infernos lindos?
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 02, 2004, 10:35:15 am
I don't really have a fixed thing in mind.
just just save frequently, add something, save if I like, revert if I don't.

bevelle edges?
you don't mean the smooth quad thingy, aye?
cuz by doing that, it looks like someone smacked a rather LARGE hammer againt it.
multiple times.

anyway, most antennae added, update eta within the hour.
unless lycos starts *****ing again.

*edit*
here's the new front:
http://members.lycos.nl/durandalarw/shipfront.JPG
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Taristin on May 02, 2004, 10:40:34 am
Beveled edges, I mean having  it go like this:
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Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 02, 2004, 10:42:07 am
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Beveled edges, I mean having  it go like this:
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can i still do that, even when All objects are already "molded" into one object?
Title: another, small update.
Post by: Havock on May 02, 2004, 11:09:20 am
tried something with bevelle edges, looking the the "block" at the right end of the nose and the "strip" on the hull.

i am wondering though, the ship itself might be a little to "wide".
or does that only look like that because of the blandness on the hull?
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: DragonClaw on May 02, 2004, 11:31:51 am
That ship reminds me of Minmatar frigate designs in Eve :)
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 02, 2004, 03:47:51 pm
some other updates.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 02, 2004, 05:30:52 pm
N/A
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Taristin on May 02, 2004, 05:46:51 pm
Looks like it'd make a beter space-city-type istallation.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 02, 2004, 06:16:55 pm
I was more thinking of an old "command ship".

like a mobile installation: massive fighterbays, but marginal close-range protection.

would be a pre-great war relic i guess.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Beowulf on May 02, 2004, 09:32:09 pm
Do not be afraid of bevel...
Bevel is your friend! :nod:
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 03, 2004, 04:24:26 am
hehe, alright.
I am, ast the moment discontinuing the current project for now.
time to hit it more serious this time, i got an idea how a want it now.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 03, 2004, 12:38:19 pm
update again, whatta ya think?

(ok, so the bow may be slightly too pointy)
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: SadisticSid on May 03, 2004, 02:22:06 pm
Wonderful detail on some bits, but the hull is butt-ugly (and looks more like a maritime vessel than a space one).
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: TopAce on May 03, 2004, 03:26:13 pm
I am saying it again(Shoot the double poster on head):
It is rather a naval AA cruiser than a spaceship.
This is not supposed to be a critic.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 03, 2004, 03:35:14 pm
yeah, i know, i tried to get rid of the excessive long tip, but it refused to.

i though "drill a hole in it, so that you have a "trench" in which you can put a forawrd-mounted gun" but no, if i did the "object substraction tool" it gives a bolean error or something and deletes sorta the whole model.

that does give it a very "spacey look", but i a whole different meaning.
not really what we are after :p

So:
can someone help me get rid of the bloody pikenose? :p
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Unknown Target on May 03, 2004, 04:05:57 pm
Do something with the front of the ship. Make the whole thing longer, and make the bow come into a large rounded front, not a point.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 04, 2004, 12:35:31 pm
ok, after the chainsaw and the hammer I got rid of the pikenose, is this better?

(check pics)

btw.
is it overarmed?
I am almsot done with the rear too, overengined it is.

also:
how to add turrets?
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: TopAce on May 04, 2004, 03:02:02 pm
Its much better. Looks like to be an Advanced Orion
Turret making is a bit long to explain, but I densely have time to explain it:

Simple turret(Shoot goes from a box, cylinder, etc.):
Make the turret body, put it into the appropriate place. Name it as 'turret01'.
Add a local light to the position you want the shoot to appear. Normally to the top of the turret body. Name it as H_turret01
Group the local light and the body together. Name that group as 'turret01'. You will need TrueView(a plugin) to make your grouping simpler.
In theory, your turret will work if you set a firing point and a normal in the POF converter you use. I believe you will find details about modifying the POF file.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on May 04, 2004, 07:36:39 pm
Looks like a seriously badass missile destroyer    :D
Title: Re: my truespace "adventure"
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on May 04, 2004, 08:52:41 pm
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Originally posted by Havock
anyway, now i have to find something for that really large open area.
and find something for the rest of the frotn, can't all stuff it with antennae.


that little empty area near the middle looks like it could be made easily into a docking/landing bay.:)
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Black Wolf on May 04, 2004, 11:38:20 pm
Fancy! Definitely a candidate fopr missile destroyerism, and Orion style tex's'd go down a treat. How the hell you went from what was in here before to this I'll never know, but it's still damn cool :D
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Manic on May 05, 2004, 01:18:00 am
That thing is looking frickin' MEAN. Me like!
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Rictor on May 05, 2004, 01:43:02 am
That looks awesome. I remember when you just had the few rectangles stuck together, and I thought "what the hell is this, thats not a ship", but you've improved it by a factor or like 100 since then. Look great, I just don't think its FS-like. It looks like something out of Wing Commander to me, maybe the WC guys would appreciate this.

Biggest comeback/improvement evar.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 05, 2004, 06:14:20 am
thank you.

where can i find the polycount anyway?
or is vertices the same?
Title: grrrr
Post by: Havock on May 05, 2004, 06:16:20 am
*edit*

/me shoots ISP for letting me think my post didn't got through.
it's always fun when internet shuts out for a couple of minutes because someone or something is screwing around with the connection

alright:
this should be the last update for now.
http://members.lycos.nl/durandalarw/TSschip.JPG
now I can start texturing/add gunturrets.

need nice turrets, anybody has some? :p

oh yes, how do exactly DO I texture, truespace's texturing tool intimidates me with it fuzzy-ness.
Title: cool
Post by: Star Dragon on May 05, 2004, 10:13:35 am
Not to label this but it looks like a VERY cool design that the X303 (from Stargate , the Prometheus) SHOULD have been (not that embarressing Terran BRICK, oh yes you can tell those humans are just starting spacecraft cause it's BUTT UGLY! Fear the ugliness!) ;7

  I'm a HUGE fan of space-batttleships so GOOD JOB! (now for lots of cool turrets and missile tubes please!)
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 05, 2004, 11:11:17 am
even more missiles?
it already has ****loads of em :D

*edit*

I could -really- use some advice on texturing and what I should do first: texturing or turretting.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Black Wolf on May 05, 2004, 09:05:08 pm
As I understand it, you need to model the ship, then model the turrets, then texture, then do the heirarchy for the turrets. I think.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on May 05, 2004, 09:29:51 pm
I love it :eek2:
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: adwight on May 05, 2004, 10:45:35 pm
OMG, that so totally kicks ass.  No offense, but your first one sucked nuts.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 06, 2004, 04:54:57 am
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Originally posted by adwight
OMG, that so totally kicks ass.  No offense, but your first one sucked nuts.


it did.
and now it's gone :p
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: TopAce on May 06, 2004, 01:26:12 pm
Where has her gone?
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Unknown Target on May 06, 2004, 02:07:44 pm
Very nice, but now the tower seems a bit tall, dontchya think? :D
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Turambar on May 06, 2004, 02:39:01 pm
*hacking cough* lindos*cough
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 06, 2004, 03:52:13 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
Where has her gone?


the first design was sacrificied to the model gods :p

that nicer thingy still lives, hell, i made a backup of it on a cd, just in case.

the tower is quite tall, as intended, but it's within proportions :)

I didn't want to make it too "flat".
(http://members.lycos.nl/durandalarw/shipside.JPG)
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: GT-Keravnos on May 06, 2004, 04:05:53 pm
Oh my god!

Images of Space Battleship Yamato running through my head!!

It is fantastic!
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Turambar on May 06, 2004, 04:56:14 pm
does anyone else see a resemblance to the Wing Zero's beam cannon in Gundam Wing?
(http://www.fantoysia.com/toy/MSiA/ew/MSiA_wgzc_p07s.jpg)

Edit: Hey, I have this model!  it broke a while ago though...
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Urban Cowboy on May 06, 2004, 05:35:23 pm
Hehehe....that's kinda funny...even has a little trigger. Make a ship resembling the buster cannon...with it's fire power...that'll be interesting.

Oh...nice work!
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Taristin on May 06, 2004, 06:07:40 pm
I wanted to make a ship that looks like the assault rifle from HALO.  Wait. That's an idea...
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: mikhael on May 06, 2004, 08:51:35 pm
That's um... Wing Zero Custom, not Wing Zero. ;)
Title: Re: grrrr
Post by: Raptor on May 07, 2004, 05:35:35 am
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Originally posted by Havock
need nice turrets, anybody has some? :p


Someone asked for turrets?;)

I would post a screenie, but angelfire has sudden started being a pain....:mad:
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Black Wolf on May 07, 2004, 05:53:08 am
I like it more and more every screenie I see. :D That profile kicks arse.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: TopAce on May 07, 2004, 10:20:36 am
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Originally posted by Turambar
does anyone else see a resemblance to the Wing Zero's beam cannon in Gundam Wing?
...


The ship also makes me remember a firearm.
It was the first thing which came to my mind as soon as I saw the model.

Whatever that weapon is, this ship will have more firepower, and will require more men to make it work.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 11, 2004, 09:51:14 am
wooh, back from the dead ppl.
virus busted the computer (some members of the family should simply NOT be allowed any access to the internet!)

anyway, i made a backup of the model, so it was safe from the little bugger :p
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: pyro-manic on May 11, 2004, 10:50:34 am
Carry on then! ;)

Awesome work. :yes: Big superstructure is cooooool. :nod:
Title: Re: Re: grrrr
Post by: Havock on May 11, 2004, 11:08:59 am
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Originally posted by Raptor


Someone asked for turrets?;)

I would post a screenie, but angelfire has sudden started being a pain....:mad:


you can email it to me if you want :)

/*edit*
made a slight adjustement to the back so that the future gunturret won't be sitting right behind a bloody exhaust :p
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: WMCoolmon on May 11, 2004, 05:32:16 pm
It looks to me like a SPAS-12 shotgun from Tactical Ops.

In the perspective, I see a leisure boat with a swimming pool. Meh. :p
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 12, 2004, 04:18:34 am
where is the swimming pool then?
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: TopAce on May 12, 2004, 09:54:36 am
Have a look at the right-down view. You will see it.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 12, 2004, 11:22:09 am
ah, but there will be a turret there :)
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: TopAce on May 12, 2004, 02:32:00 pm
In the swimming pool? :)
Just kiddin', don't take it seriously.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 12, 2004, 04:01:10 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
In the swimming pool? :)
Just kiddin', don't take it seriously.


yeah, i know :p

anyway, I am still figuring out on how to do turrets.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: karajorma on May 12, 2004, 04:40:07 pm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/shipmods.html

If you haven't already looked :)
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 13, 2004, 02:05:36 am
i am digging in it right now.

though school has startd again this week.
makes me have a little less time on my sleeves :p
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: TopAce on May 13, 2004, 02:21:41 pm
You densely have time. Considering the FreeSpace community is still alive after all these years. . . your delay with that model will not be serious.
Title: my ruespace "adventure"
Post by: Havock on May 13, 2004, 02:43:23 pm
yeah, all relative, but still :P

btw.
what would be a good size for the ship?

my personal idea would be something like +/-1,5 km long?

it doesn't "scream" out "Destroyer" to me.
more something like "frigate".