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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on May 02, 2004, 05:48:42 pm

Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on May 02, 2004, 05:48:42 pm
Ok, here's the deal. We don't have any way to get //www.freespace2.com or //www.volition-inc.com to link to HLP as the main site for FS, so we have to resport to Google bombing (http://www.oldcameltoe.com/propoganda/savedsites/googlebomb/googlebomb.html).

If you have a site, no matter how small, paste the code below into the webpage:

Code: [Select]
<a href="http://www.3dap.com/hlp">Campaigns, missions, and mods for the space sims Freespace 1 & Freespace 2</a>

It doesn't matter how small, visible, or prominient the link is - all that matters is that it's there.

What this will do is help Google, and other search engines, make a stronger connection between HLP and phrases such as "freespace 2", "space sim", and "freespace campaigns".
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Knight Templar on May 02, 2004, 05:52:02 pm
Okay.

Oh, we should help add to the Michael Moore thing too.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: an0n on May 02, 2004, 05:52:27 pm
I may or may not have a certain piece of CGI software on one of my computers which may or may not be purposely designed by people far more '1337' than me for trapping search engine bots into a link-loop and vastly over-inflating a page's importance in the grand scheme of things.

I'll try to find this hypothetical piece of software.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Knight Templar on May 02, 2004, 05:54:34 pm
And I'll be right back while I go look for that Golden Fleece.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: karajorma on May 02, 2004, 06:24:18 pm
Ummmm. The FAQ already links here :D
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: an0n on May 02, 2004, 06:24:45 pm
Bah. Couldn't find it.

But I've stuck the link at the bottom of NW.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: an0n on May 02, 2004, 06:35:20 pm
And one on the main, unfinished PenguinBomb site, seen as alot of my other-forum profiles lead to that as my homepage.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: an0n on May 02, 2004, 06:36:16 pm
Y'know, the smart thing to do would be to have Stealth make Swooh stick a link to HLP at the bottom of every hosted page.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Whitelight on May 02, 2004, 06:46:33 pm
Me, I don`t have a website..
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on May 02, 2004, 06:46:52 pm
Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Ummmm. The FAQ already links here :D


Yes, but the link text is important for this to work. Most links pointing here that say "HLP" aren't going to help someone searching for "freespace 2 mods" a single bit. :)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Unknown Target on May 02, 2004, 06:57:56 pm
Can't do it now, but I will later.
Besides, we already come out top on the Freespace mods google search ;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Stealth on May 02, 2004, 07:44:51 pm
well to get HLP to get to the top of search engines (listen up all you noobs, here's how you do it) on a few of the pages, paste (in the same color text as the background) words like Freespace, Freespace 2, campaign, hard light, hard, light, campaigns, mod, mods, modify, space simulate, space-simulate, space simulator, space-simulator, etc.  if possible even in different sizes and colors, though that won't make a difference ;)

Anyway, that's a sure way of getting to the top of the list within a few weeks.  i know, because i've used it on two occasions, and it's worked both times ;)

but that's a cheap, pathetic way, not quite the real way, and i haven't used that method since.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Arc on May 02, 2004, 08:14:34 pm
I thought a number of search engines had been designed to avoid precisly that sort of thing? Or was that just META tags? But I've never tried it, so: would that still work if you stuck it inside an invisible DIV tag? That way it wouldn't mess up the page layout on compatible (ie. most) browsers...
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: HotSnoJ on May 02, 2004, 08:37:07 pm
Damn, I have so many sites...that I don't want to update. :nervous:

*updates one*


There (http://josherickson.org/index.php) hows that? (bottom of page)

Would this code work?
Code: [Select]
***** align="center">HLP
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: redsniper on May 02, 2004, 09:37:30 pm
i don't have much of a website, I just use it for hosting files now and then, but I added the code. every little bit helps :nod:
Title: Re: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Turnsky on May 02, 2004, 11:20:07 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, here's the deal. We don't have any way to get www.freespace2.com or www.volition-inc.com to link to HLP as the main site for FS, so we have to resport to Google bombing (http://www.oldcameltoe.com/propoganda/savedsites/googlebomb/googlebomb.html).

If you have a site, no matter how small, paste the code below into the webpage:

Code: [Select]
<a href="http://www.3dap.com/hlp">Campaigns, missions, and mods for the space sims Freespace 1 & Freespace 2</a>

It doesn't matter how small, visible, or prominient the link is - all that matters is that it's there.

What this will do is help Google, and other search engines, make a stronger connection between HLP and phrases such as "freespace 2", "space sim", and "freespace campaigns". [/B]


http://foxfire.keenspace.com/Links.htm
;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Singh on May 02, 2004, 11:44:55 pm
Hm......
Guess ill spam HLP in my SIGs on the other forums... ;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on May 03, 2004, 03:28:23 am
Quote
Originally posted by HotSnoJ
Damn, I have so many sites...that I don't want to update. :nervous:

*updates one*


There (http://josherickson.org/index.php) hows that? (bottom of page)

Would this code work?
Code: [Select]
***** align="center">HLP [/B]


Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky


http://foxfire.keenspace.com/Links.htm
;)


No, no - inks to HLP are fine and wonderful, but the point here is to have the text of the link saying "freespace", so that the search engines begin to associate "freespace" with HLP. :D
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Turnsky on May 03, 2004, 03:46:25 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich




No, no - inks to HLP are fine and wonderful, but the point here is to have the text of the link saying "freespace", so that the search engines begin to associate "freespace" with HLP. :D


it's been there ever since i first created the site.;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on May 03, 2004, 04:04:13 am
Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky


it's been there ever since i first created the site.;)


Yeah, I figured as much, but it doesn't help the specific Google bombing effort I'm trying to do here. :)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Turnsky on May 03, 2004, 04:25:08 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich


Yeah, I figured as much, but it doesn't help the specific Google bombing effort I'm trying to do here. :)


i'll tweak it this weekend..;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Unknown Target on May 03, 2004, 06:42:26 am
Just realized I already have it on my links page :D
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Setekh on May 03, 2004, 06:51:18 am
I have a great website to do this for! It's big and has lots of members, and maybe we can ask them to do the same and... oh, wait.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Turnsky on May 03, 2004, 07:06:49 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
I have a great website to do this for! It's big and has lots of members, and maybe we can ask them to do the same and... oh, wait.

:lol:
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Ransom on May 03, 2004, 08:05:39 am
Will it still count if that description is used as a title for the link instead?
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Lightspeed on May 03, 2004, 11:27:26 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
I have a great website to do this for! It's big and has lots of members, and maybe we can ask them to do the same and... oh, wait.


:lol:
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on May 03, 2004, 02:26:41 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
Will it still count if that description is used as a title for the link instead?


I have no idea. It could easily go either way.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: TopAce on May 03, 2004, 03:19:53 pm
My Hungarian server is down, but I will hopefully not forget to link here as soon as I will be able to edit my homepage again. (<- This sentence: Damn. :ick: )
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Hippo on May 03, 2004, 03:39:10 pm
http://swooh.com/peon/hippo
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Stealth on May 03, 2004, 03:58:26 pm
lol Hippo :-p


Hey guys... when you do this, you don't have to have the text big, so don't think you have to ruin your website with huge text at the bottom of each page.  it can be small... size doesn't matter.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Cabbie on May 04, 2004, 12:51:56 am
I'll link HLP to my site (http://www.overundertokyo.com)  once I get to updating my links section.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Setekh on May 04, 2004, 03:18:19 am
:D

Seriously though guys, this is all really appreciated. I don't think many people find HLP through search engines right now, and this will improve that situation for people floundering around without knowledge of where to go to find all the FreeSpacers. ;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Cabbie on May 04, 2004, 03:26:14 am
Why not do small link exchange section in the page? Members who linked to HLP get linked back to their sites as well, so it benifits everyone :D
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Setekh on May 04, 2004, 04:55:02 am
Hmm, there's an idea... :)

Btw, Cabbie, are you "TokyoCabDriver" on overundertokyo.com? That site's cool. :nod:
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Cabbie on May 04, 2004, 05:23:42 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
Hmm, there's an idea... :)

Btw, Cabbie, are you "TokyoCabDriver" on overundertokyo.com? That site's cool. :nod:


Yeah that's me. Thanks for the compliment man. :yes:
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Turnsky on May 04, 2004, 06:21:47 am
a href="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"> img src="/button-host.gif" width="90" height="30" border="0" alt="Campaigns, missions, and mods for the space sims Freespace 1 & Freespace 2">
would that code be accepted?
(excuse the missing  "<   >" it was necessary)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Cabbie on May 04, 2004, 06:42:24 am
A bunch of nice shiney banners in all the diffrent "standard" sizes would encourage linking, I think:

Small 88 X 31 / 200 X 40 / 234 X 60

to large:

469 X 61 flavors
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Turnsky on May 04, 2004, 07:05:05 am
Quote
Originally posted by Cabbie
A bunch of nice shiney banners in all the diffrent "standard" sizes would encourage linking, I think:

Small 88 X 31 / 200 X 40 / 234 X 60

to large:

469 X 61 flavors


the man has a point.:nod:
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Fineus on May 04, 2004, 07:13:01 am
Shouldn't be to bad to superimpose the FS2 logo over the top of the HLP logo with a bit of text underneath it or something like that... if there's no takers I might take a crack at it when I get home.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on May 04, 2004, 05:46:15 pm
Turbsky: I honestly don't know if ALT properties cut it. You'd have to look at the Google source code to tell. :p
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Turnsky on May 04, 2004, 08:42:32 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Turbsky: I honestly don't know if ALT properties cut it. You'd have to look at the Google source code to tell. :p


Who is this Turbsky of which you speak?:p

i'll see what i can do on my end, might make a separate set of links and all.. the image, and that little link blurb..

after all, this is basically the birthplace of foxfire, the first issues were posted here, i can't forget that.;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on May 06, 2004, 09:55:22 am
Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky
Who is this Turbsky of which you speak?:p


Wow... I usually catch those. :p
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Cabbie on July 04, 2004, 04:56:54 pm
Mind if I bump this up to remind everyone?;)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: vyper on July 04, 2004, 05:21:44 pm
Yes. I mind, I was excited and now I'm disappointed.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Setekh on July 05, 2004, 09:01:13 am
Love to see if others could help with this. There'll be plenty more to pimp about soon, too.
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Gloriano on July 05, 2004, 09:05:39 am
I'am ready to help, any way I can. :)
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Cabbie on July 06, 2004, 12:19:05 am
I just want to remind everyone to put out some offical banners for HLP and a link exchange section for HLP so that we can do some crosslinking with each other :)

Let me repeat

We should do banners in:

Small 88 X 31 / 200 X 40 / 234 X 60

to large:

469 X 61 flavors
Title: Pimpin' HLP
Post by: Sandwich on July 06, 2004, 09:42:57 am
Quote
Originally posted by Cabbie
I just want to remind everyone to put out some offical banners for HLP and a link exchange section for HLP so that we can do some crosslinking with each other :)

Let me repeat

We should do banners in:

Small 88 X 31 / 200 X 40 / 234 X 60

to large:

469 X 61 flavors


Err..... let me repeat - banners are good for visitors, but text links saying "freespace modding" or something with "freespace" pointing to HLP are good for search engines, which are, in turn, good for visitors. :)