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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on May 02, 2004, 07:54:37 pm
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Just came back from a car show. The biggest in Houston apparently, with over $80,000,000 in cars and a few boats. Mostly classics, except for the "exotics" such as vipers, lamborghinis, ferraris, porsches, lotus, hot-rods, etc. which were all brand new. i got about 30 photos, which i'll post here soon. It's held annually, right outside the NASA space center, by the bay :cool: :D :)
Anyone heard of a Ferrari Enzo? The million dollar + most powerful, fastest, and most expensive car Ferrari ever made? (only 399 built if i remember correctly) well i got to sit inside a 2004 Enzo. it was amazing. the guy closed the door, and all outside noise was suddenly gone, it was dead quiet, completely soundproof, it was amazing.
anyway, the show was amazing. almost every well-known classic car you can imagine was there, from rolls-royce, buick, bentley, maserati, bugati, cadillac, lincoln, and many, many more.
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Strictly Mitsu here. Unless there was a sweet 3kGT, Evo, or an FTO GPX/GP Version-R, I doubt I'll be interested. Then again, post pics! :D
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oh i will. i don't have a digital camera, so i used two spools of film on the camera, i'm having the film developed tomorrow ;)
I know, most people love new cars more, but you've got to respect the older classics too. It's much more impressive seeing a well-restored car than looking at a new car any day i think.
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I had one of those 'project cars' once. Me and my dad were going to restore a 1969 Ford Mustang Convertable. But we ran out of freetime, and sold it. Shame, it was a nice car, and it had a very rare motor swapped into it. :doubt:
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Give me a Jaguar E-Type and I'll be a damn happy man. For a newer classic I could easily enjoy a TVR.
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Was this the National Auto Expo? I think it was in NYC a few weeks ago. Too bad I missed it. I would have liked to see some of the concept cars.
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nono, this wasn't a big, publicized show, although there were cars from all over the United States there, it was a mostly local show. classic cars, except for the exotics.
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Kinda want one of those new Chrysler Crossfires, they're slick and techy.(When you reach highway speeds a spoiler raises in the back and lowers back down when you slow down. Very Spiffy!!)
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porsche boxter does that. as does the enzo
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So does the 1999 Mitsu 3000GT VR-4. :p
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The Crossfire is meant to be crap - priced way above the performance you get from it. And as for the Enzo.... :ick: I hate Ferrari cars. They scream "wanker!" about the driver, and the red they use is foul. Gimme a Bugatti Veyron any day. Faster, looks better, not a Ferrari :D
That or a TVR Tuscan, Toyota Supra or a Vauxhall VX220 Turbo... :nod:
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[color=66ff00]All your base are belong to Vanquish.
(http://www.astonmartins.com/v12vanq/images/DSCN6962.jpg)
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I want one. But only if it comes with the missile launchers and the point defense machine guns. :p
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Originally posted by Stealth
porsche boxter does that. as does the enzo
Along with most of the Porsche Carrera's from the 70s onwards.
There better have been a 356 there, and you better have a picture of ot :p
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There's like 3 of them in the downtown area where I work and live. U know what I saw on the road on the weekend? A friggin lamborgini murcielago. I didn't even think they were sold here. My jaw dropped and I got a little moist. The guy could be no older than 30.
What sucks is that around here the roads are uneven so having a car like that is a nightmare. The guy was inching his way over railroad tracks that made me wanna cry.
EDIT: And the Boxster sucks. Never has Porsche reduced their pride by so much to sell a value car.
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The stock Boxster, yes. The Boxster S on the other hand is not so cheap.
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Originally posted by Styxx
I want one. But only if it comes with the missile launchers and the point defense machine guns. :p
I think they'll be willing to customize it for you if you ask. Heck, I heard they'll even throw in a bullet proof chassis, cloaking device and unscrachable paint for just a extra billion bucks. :D
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hooray for automotive conveyances!
Curse you people and living where there are cars to embarass the one I drive!
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*pats his Fiesta 1 litre*.
Well it gets me from A to B... that said a guy down the read owns a Marcoss. I don't need an alarm clock anymore, I just wait for him to start the engine - wakes me up every time.
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark.saxby/marcos/mth0208.jpg)
It's the one closest the camera... same color actually. I hate him.
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Ah, the Marcoss. Looks cool, always loses at the 24H of Le Mans :p
Two weeks ago, I went to a restaurant, and obviously there was a Maserati meeting held there. Lots of cool cars from 1960 to today :)
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Heh, I am still yet to understand and appreciate the beauty of cars. Maybe when I start driving more. ;)
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[color=66ff00]Actually, I rate the Vanquish as the only beautiful car I've ever seen.
That Marcoss is horrible looking, but I guess people don't buy it for looks. (Or do they? :nervous: )
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It looks like they crossed a Viper with a Miata...
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Originally posted by Setekh
Heh, I am still yet to understand and appreciate the beauty of cars. Maybe when I start driving more. ;)
Actualy I don't understant cars beaty I just drive it one place to another:)
Vanquish is cool
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Oh, if we're talking about the most beautiful cars of all time, then the classic late 50's Thunderbird in black, hands down.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Actually, I rate the Vanquish as the only beautiful car I've ever seen.[/color]
It's unoriginal as hell, but heh, people's tastes.
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Eugh... bulky trash.
(http://www.foltyn.cz/jaguar_e/jaguar_e1v.jpg)
That is beauty.
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Blah. I think that's hideous.
(http://www.maseratistl.com/models/spyder/images/reflect_side_large.jpg)
Or
(http://www.maseratistl.com/models/spyder/images/spyder_main_top.jpg)
This is what I'd own if I were affluent. :p
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(http://www.allmusclecars.com/corvette/blk68pf1.jpg)
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Raa Tor'h, they're so... generic! Seriously they look like your average road car - nothing special at all.
Oh... and how do you like this?
(http://jeremy.copp.users.btopenworld.com/Cerbera_2Mar2002.JPG)
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Corvette>*
:p
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(http://www.lehighvalleybusiness.org/car-10-buick-centieme.jpg)
this ones desing i like
TVR cerbera looks good
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That thing is fugly.
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(http://falcongtclub.com.au/images/JUNE2003/DCP_0084.JPG)
Ford Falcon GT 1974
So what if I like vintage cars? :p
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classic cars OWN. Hands down. There was something in the design and implementation back then that I think many auto makers have lost sight of. I'm referring to American cars.
Who's waking up? Cheverolet with their new line up is certainly waking up and going to their roots. Ford is going to be doing that as soon as their new mustang comes out, which looks very much a classic.
And when I say that automakers are waking up, I don't mean they're making their cars retro. In the past there was a certain art and dedication in designing a car that I think was lost.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Raa Tor'h, they're so... generic! Seriously they look like your average road car - nothing special at all.
Generic? I think not. More like classic good looks. Unlike those things you posted. Besides, I don't know about where you live, but they are _very_ uncommon here. Infact, there are only about 2 Maserati dealerships in the US. In Louisiana, and in California, I believe.
Alot of these newer cars are just so uninspired/fugly they make me sick. There are only 2 cars I have intentions of buying:
(http://images.automotive.com/review_images/99mitsu3000tgt.jpg)
And
(http://www.versionr.com/forsale/001.jpeg)
Unfortunately, the FTO was never sold in America, but should I ever manage to save up ~$20,000 I'll get one imported. :nod: I don't care if it's not worth it.
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Infact, there are only about 2 Maserati dealerships in the US. In Louisiana, and in California, I believe.
Maserati's are a dime a dozen in Miami. There's a dealership of exotic cars 5 minutes from my house. That's why I see them so much in coral gables.
http://www.thecollection.com/
That dealership takes practically an entire block. It's a beautiful dealership. They have an Enzo on a platform in the lobby that spins, sitting right infront of the corner window so everyone can "oooooo" and aaaah" and get into an accident.
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Thunderbird
(http://moto.trojmiasto.pl/tapety/ford/ford_thunderbird_05_800x600.jpg)
That's all.
Fully loaded and it's still less than 40.:D
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TVR tuscans are simply the most beutiful cars ever made. I want one! :D
I dont really like the cerbera model, its a little too ugly and blocky for my liking.
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oldschool stingrays look badass. at the show (i get the pics back today, i'll post them) they had a whole line of old 60s and 70s stingrays :cool: :D
i personally would take any old car over a new one.
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Originally posted by Stealth
i personally would take any old car over a new one.
I have to agree with that statement, although I drive a 2003 car :) I have a new car more for its reliability than anything. I make ok money, but I don't think I have the money now to be able to maintain or refurbish a classic. I will definitely do it, though, one day in my life.
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
(http://www.versionr.com/forsale/001.jpeg)
Unfortunately, the FTO was never sold in America, but should I ever manage to save up ~$20,000 I'll get one imported. :nod: I don't care if it's not worth it.
wooha, i see a steering column on the right. Never actually seen an FTO in my area, but wooha anyway.
My Wishlist
MG Midget
Classic Jag XJS / E-type
Aston Martin DB9
Mercedes' new SLR
Mazda RX8
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And guess what - all I drive at the moment is a Ford Mondeo 2.0 Si
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Raa Tor'h, they're so... generic! Seriously they look like your average road car - nothing special at all.
Oh... and how do you like this?
(http://jeremy.copp.users.btopenworld.com/Cerbera_2Mar2002.JPG)
With the exception of some of the cars I heard the day I spent at the Network Q RAC rally in Cheltenham a few years back, this is the loudest car I've ever heard.
Gorgeous.
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That's my dream car. Right there.
(http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~jscouria/CARS/delorean.gif)
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vyper, I like your taste!
As for the FTO... well thats a little odd. You see in Worthing where I live (a little town on the south coast of England... or a shopping mall if you're American).. there's at least three FTOs.. one silver, one black and one red. Not that they aren't nice looking cars - but they're not unique by any means.
Raa Tor'h, perhaps where you live things are a little different - but to me those look like your average company issue Mercedes.... there's at least 7 cars that look like them on company hire in the car park of the company I work for. They're not ugly but they're not interesting to look at either.
Oh, and while it's not the most beautiful car here - it drives like a beauty. I give you the car my family used to own:
(http://home.earthlink.net/~pcohen/89xjseur.jpg)
The Jaguar XJS.
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My dad used to have an XJ6
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
As for the FTO... well thats a little odd. You see in Worthing where I live (a little town on the south coast of England... or a shopping mall if you're American).. there's at least three FTOs.. one silver, one black and one red. Not that they aren't nice looking cars - but they're not unique by any means.
Raa Tor'h, perhaps where you live things are a little different - but to me those look like your average company issue Mercedes.... there's at least 7 cars that look like them on company hire in the car park of the company I work for. They're not ugly but they're not interesting to look at either.
FTO's aren't unique because they were sold by you. That's like you seeing a Nissan Skyline or Silvia in Japan. On the otherhand, should someone drive a Skyline down the streets in America, it'll get all kinds of looks. They simply aren't available here. :blah:
And despite how it sometimes feels, America is a big place, and it's speckled with areas of extreme wealth, surrounded in a flood of mid-to-lower income areas. I live outside NYC. All I see are BMW's, Mercedes, Jaguars, Porsches, and maybe one or two Vipers from time to time. Should someone drive a TVR (No matter how hideous I think it is) down the streets here, I'll gawk. Same as if someone ever drives an FTO here. :nod:
Also, my tastes aren't that expensive. I like the sleek lines f the FTO. I like the 2-litre Mivec V6. I love everything about it. But it wasn't fair that Mitsubishi North America only offered the Eclipse for American drivers. Built by Chrysler, of all companies, too. :doubt:
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Ahh, yeah I can see your point now :) To be honest despite my town being a place where people go to die - we do have a sizable collection of interesting cars. Top of the list is a Ferrari Testerosa (Ferrari red of course) and a Hummer. The hummer is impressive since it barely fits down English roads and sticks a full half-cars width out from other cars when it's parked... it's a tank.
I also live 5 minutes cycle from Jon Cooper garages, makers of the famous Mini brand (they do custom jobs and ship them off to the princes of Eastern countries etc).
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Hey, I've seen a hummer in my town a couple weeks ago. You have to be confident with your driving skills to use something like that in France, small towns usually have very narrow streets...
If I want to see beautyful cars, I just take a trip to Monaco. The low end cars there are Mercedes, and there's never less than 4 or 5 Ferraris "on screen" (:p ) at the same time. Richos bastards.
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In France, with a Hummer, you can usually drive around the town in less time that you could drive through it along the main route.
How long does it take to drive from Calais(sp?) on the coast to the German border?
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Originally posted by Liberator
In France, with a Hummer, you can usually drive around the town in less time that you could drive through it along the main route.
Huh? Believe it or not, France is not a flat, ownerfree collection of grass grounds. There's walls, fences, trees, angry farmers with rifles, all kind of stuff that will prevent you from going around :p
How long does it take to drive from Calais(sp?) on the coast to the German border?
No idea, never done so, but taking the highway, mmh... I'd say there's about 500Km between Calais and the closest part of Germany, and lots of highways ( so 130 km/h )... 6 hours?
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Top of the list is a Ferrari Testerosa (Ferrari red of course) and a Hummer. The hummer is impressive since it barely fits down English roads and sticks a full half-cars width out from other cars when it's parked... it's a tank.
There are a few Hummer's here. I'm not fond of them. They look like a toolbox on wheels to me. Plus, with gas being $2.00 a gallon, it's not worth it.
There are a few exotics here. Mainly older models. You really have to be someone, and probably a narcisist to drive a truly rare car around here. (And pray it isn't stolen.)
Then again, I drive this, so:
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/tegra.jpg)
I got Dodge Rammed... :(
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Man, with an integra you can do so much to it!!!! You'd be running 13's if you know what you were doing!
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I know a fair bit, but I don't really want to. I have a stupid, annoying, loud, arrogant exhaust on it, but I keep it silenced 99% of the time.
It's also an automatic, so there goes 40% of it's 146 HP. :doubt:
Still, it's fun. And if I can ever get it fixed, it'll be a looker again.
As it is, it's aweful patriotic.
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(http://www.151boost.com/pix/car_images/images/Prototype%20Nissan%20Skyline%20GT-R%20R35_jpg.jpg)
(http://www.tuningpt.com/galeria/nissan/skyline/skyline2.jpg)
well I really like Skyline I don't know why it has something.
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Lexus
(http://auto-sale.narod.ru/photo226.jpg)
:yes: my taste of car(s)
My self I have Lexus (not that one!
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Lexus is Toyota. Infiniti is Nissan.
So that's moot.
And the Skyline is :blah:, IMO
I never liked it. But I hear it may be coming to America ~2007 as an Infiniti. :doubt: