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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on May 06, 2004, 01:09:23 pm
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http://www.princeofpersiagame.com/teaser/us/
*plays Race With Devil on Turkish Highway*
edit: This is not Sands of Time, its the sequel.
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I thought this game already came out...
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That's not Sands of Time, it's the next one, apparently. It also seems to be kickass.
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How I am starting to hate the series...
The originals were good... this is just nostalgic for the sake of it... bah...
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Whoa. For a moment there I thought I was about to hear Garret's voice.
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Indeed... same music, same visuals :p
The two screenshots look very good.
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
How I am starting to hate the series...
The originals were good... this is just nostalgic for the sake of it... bah...
I must--respectfully--declare you a dimwit, sir.
Prince of Persia was an excellent game. The sequel was more of the same. PoP3d was an abyssmal failure. Prince of Persia Sands of Time was the greatest 3d platformer EVER. It not only lived up to the potential of the original, it surpassed it in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY. Given that the major factor in its success was the way SoT was developed (The designers got to, you know, design the game, instead of the suits, imagine that), I cannot imagine that UbiSoft would do anything to screw up a winning formula.
Without a doubt, this will be an excellent and utterly stunning game.
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Indeed, Sands of Time ruled so much that it's hard to describe. Also, the Prince was badass. You should fear him.
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Without that dagger, he's nothing.
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Pfft. He doesn't need no time dagger to be a world-class badass. I have to admit, though, he's even more of a badass because of it.
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See, thats what I don't like. In the original, he was never a muscle-bound, tattooed badass. Well, hard to really tell from like 20 pixels, but all the acrobatics and such were within reason.
In Sands of Time, the developers sent the Prince off to Matrix Boot Camp, and now he can fight like 10 guys at once, run on walls and such. I only played about the first hour or so of Sands of Time, due to my crappy video card (I just wanted to get a feel for it, I want to save th full experience for High Detail and smooth frame rates), but the impression that I got, and its backed up by all the reviews, is that the Prince is this super-strong asskicker now. The original was a puzzle game mostly, and combat was less pronounced than it is now (though there was still plenty of it).
I still think that Sands of Time is an awesome game, and a great way to bring Prince of Persia into the new age, but I just hope they don't keep tacking on features, cause that would likely ruin the experience somewhat. I guess I'm just a purist.
edit: I just found the soundtrack up for download somewhere, and I'm listening to it right now. Awesome music.
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Originally posted by Mikhael
I must--respectfully--declare you a dimwit, sir.
Prince of Persia was an excellent game. The sequel was more of the same. PoP3d was an abyssmal failure. Prince of Persia Sands of Time was the greatest 3d platformer EVER. It not only lived up to the potential of the original, it surpassed it in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY. Given that the major factor in its success was the way SoT was developed (The designers got to, you know, design the game, instead of the suits, imagine that), I cannot imagine that UbiSoft would do anything to screw up a winning formula.
Without a doubt, this will be an excellent and utterly stunning game.
And you aparently have to read what I wrote better! The first 2 Prince of Persia's were good games... These final... let's call them... "reincarnations" have been wierd to say the least. Like Rictor says, the first two were more of a maze game than what these reincarnations have. That is part (and in my opinion, a great part) of the magic that were the original Prince of Persia's. The reincarnation's look more like a melee version of Tomb Raider!
I just hope they don't ruin the name Prince of Persia 2 :doubt:
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Bah, the original Prince of Persia was over-rated.
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says you. Its one of my fondest childhood memories, right up there with Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis and Sokoban.
For its time, its was amazing. The animations were way ahead of anything out there, and the controls scheme was perfection itself. Add to that a great combat system and an original premise (the one hour time limit) and what you get is the stuff of legends.
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
And you aparently have to read what I wrote better! The first 2 Prince of Persia's were good games... These final... let's call them... "reincarnations" have been wierd to say the least. Like Rictor says, the first two were more of a maze game than what these reincarnations have. That is part (and in my opinion, a great part) of the magic that were the original Prince of Persia's. The reincarnation's look more like a melee version of Tomb Raider!
I just hope they don't ruin the name Prince of Persia 2 :doubt:
I find it interesting that you mention Tomb Raider. Tomb Raider was essentially Prince of Persia. Lara's got all the same basic moves as the Prince did in the first two games. Unfortunately, Tomb Raider lacked the raw fun factor and design sensibility of the first two PoP games. What Prince of Persia: Sands of Time does for the series is somewhat similar to what Metroid Prime did for the Metroid series. In both cases, the new game managed to take the series from 2d to 3d gracefully WITHOUT GIVING UP ANYTHING that made the old 2d versions what they were. They are truly 3d action platformers, just like the originals were 2d action platformers. While there is more combat in SoT than there ever was in PoP-2d, this is just to let players do something OTHER than solve puzzles and mazes. Have no doubt, SoT gives you more, harder and more fun puzzles and exploration than its predecessors. The designers went out of their way to be faithful to the series, and still go beyond "more of the same". This is clear to anyone who has sat down and played the game--and indeed, you can do a first hand comparison for yourself, since PoP is right there on the disk. :D
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Originally posted by Rictor
says you. Its one of my fondest childhood memories, right up there with Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis and Sokoban.
For its time, its was amazing. The animations were way ahead of anything out there, and the controls scheme was perfection itself. Add to that a great combat system and an original premise (the one hour time limit) and what you get is the stuff of legends.
In the same genre, I prefered Another World. If I had to make stupid jumps where one pixel would make or break your day, at least, there was sort of a story to back it up. You know, I remember very clearly the first time I played Prince of Persia, and when I showed it to people. It always started with a polite interest. The enhousiasm did always show, then, but always at the same time: when you purposely miss a jump and fall on the spikes, with al the gore involved :p ( that's ALWAYS been the moment when people start to love the game :p ).
Gotta admit, you'd have started with the metalic jaws, people would have screamed genius I guess :D
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this one seems a bit more "darker" than its predacessor, too.
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Originally posted by Styxx
Indeed, Sands of Time ruled so much that it's hard to describe. Also, the Prince was badass. You should fear him.
:nod: agreed Sand of time is very well done and one of best games I played
prince is true badass
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when i saw this i was thinking you were talking about the guy formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince.
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Originally posted by Nico
In the same genre, I prefered Another World...
You mean Out of This World? That game kicked ass too. Did anyone here play the sequel, Heart of the Alien, and was it any good?
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Originally posted by Styxx
You mean Out of This World? That game kicked ass too. Did anyone here play the sequel, Heart of the Alien, and was it any good?
What's with you changing all the names? :p
it was:
1) Another World
2) Flashback
3) Fade to Black
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Originally posted by Nico
What's with you changing all the names? :p
it was:
1) Another World
2) Flashback
3) Fade to Black
Erm, I think we may be talking about different games. Out of This World is the one that starts with the guy arriving at his lab during a storm, starting up a particle accelerator, and ending up in another dimension.
Flashback is the one in the future with the aliens where the guy gets his memory wiped. I don't remember Fade to Black, but I assume it's a sequel to Flashback?
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Originally posted by Styxx
Erm, I think we may be talking about different games. Out of This World is the one that starts with the guy arriving at his lab during a storm, starting up a particle accelerator, and ending up in another dimension.
Flashback is the one in the future with the aliens where the guy gets his memory wiped. I don't remember Fade to Black, but I assume it's a sequel to Flashback?
We're talking about the same game.
And Another world is the real name since it's the french name and it's a friggin french game :p
Yeah, Fade to black is the sequel to flashback, which is, somehow the sequel to another world ( it's the same guy ), but wich, iirc, doesn't share the same plot. Fade to black was a tomb-raider like, but before tomb raider :p
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Hm, okay, didn't know that. I always knew it as Out of This World. And I'm pretty sure that the true sequel for it was Heart of the Alien, which happens in the same world, has the same style, same aliens/characters, etc. But it was for the Saturn only, so I didn't have a chance to play it.
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I played Flashback and Out of this World. I never finished either of them. The cool thing about them is that htey were small studio productions and made extensive use of rotoscoped animation and (in the case of OotW) vector graphics (not vector graphics like Star Wars, vector graphics like Quark Express and the like).
Groovy stuff. Better than the Prince of Persia 2d games, but not a patch on Sands of Time. ;)
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Another World was great, Flashback was great, Fade To Black was great but damn hard. I think it was one of the first games to use gouraud (sp?) shaded polygons.
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Heart of the Alien is up on HOTU with a Saturn emulator - and it's a full version.
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I played Another World (it had the same name in the UK as in France) till I completed it. Loved that game and I agree that the plotline was much better PoP by a long way :)
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Originally posted by mikhael
I must--respectfully--declare you a dimwit, sir.
Prince of Persia was an excellent game. The sequel was more of the same. PoP3d was an abyssmal failure. Prince of Persia Sands of Time was the greatest 3d platformer EVER. It not only lived up to the potential of the original, it surpassed it in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY. Given that the major factor in its success was the way SoT was developed (The designers got to, you know, design the game, instead of the suits, imagine that), I cannot imagine that UbiSoft would do anything to screw up a winning formula.
Without a doubt, this will be an excellent and utterly stunning game.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Not only was it fun, but it reeked of utter coolness beyond belief. The combat system was unbelievable.
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Yeah, there was like two attcks and one pary :p
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Still haven't played the first one. :sigh:
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Originally posted by karajorma
I played Another World (it had the same name in the UK as in France) till I completed it. Loved that game and I agree that the plotline was much better PoP by a long way :)
That sure was a great game. Played Flashback too? :D
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I had a demo of the first level but I never got the game ufortunately. I'm severely tempted to get an Amiga emulator and a copy of the game though :) I would except I've promised myself to actually finish something MG related soon and I'd never stop if I installed one :)