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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => FS2 Open Coding - The Source Code Project (SCP) => Topic started by: KARMA on May 14, 2004, 08:04:43 am

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Post by: KARMA on May 14, 2004, 08:04:43 am
well I don't think it'd be suitable for a non-pro product, but it's interesting:

"Most of our characters are built from two meshes: a realtime mesh with thousands of triangles, and a detail mesh with millions of triangles. We provide a distributed-computing application which raytraces the detail mesh and, from its high-polygon geometry, generates a normal map that is applied to the realtime mesh when rendering.  The result is in-game objects with all of the lighting detail of the high poly mesh, but that are still easily rendered in real time."

ingame model
http://www.unrealtechnology.com/screens/character_creation2.jpg
high poly model
http://www.unrealtechnology.com/screens/character_creation1.jpg
ingame result
http://www.unrealtechnology.com/screens/character_creation3.jpg

http://www.unrealtechnology.com/html/technology/ue30.shtml
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Post by: Fineus on May 14, 2004, 08:47:06 am
Gotta respect those guys abilities with coding... Very impressive use of technology.
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Post by: Lightspeed on May 14, 2004, 09:07:27 am
Gotta mention that they simply use normal mapping and did NOT develop it.
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Post by: Fineus on May 14, 2004, 09:50:03 am
Whatever, it's good use of the tech.
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Post by: Taristin on May 14, 2004, 10:26:31 am
Wow. That's alot of polies. Good result. Love the armor on the mesh too. :nod:
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Post by: ChronoReverse on May 14, 2004, 12:22:49 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Lightspeed
Gotta mention that they simply use normal mapping and did NOT develop it.


And normal mapping is exactly one of the features I think FS2 could benefit from >.>
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Post by: phreak on May 14, 2004, 12:34:17 pm
yea i know, but if you keep requesting features, then 3.7 isn't getting released until this time in 2005
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Post by: ChronoReverse on May 14, 2004, 12:59:32 pm
Let me correct what I said.  I meant that it was something I put into the "dream-on features thread".
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Post by: Flipside on May 14, 2004, 01:03:20 pm
LOL Well, I'm thinking Phreak means you may have to wait a while for that one ;)

And, on our defence, if we hadn't asked for features, you wouldn't have bothered going to 3.1 ;)
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Post by: IceFire on May 14, 2004, 03:42:16 pm
Normal maping is a really cool idea....it makes very high detail stuff fairly easy to do and very realistic to look at.

Very impressive.
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Post by: Lightspeed on May 14, 2004, 04:50:42 pm
I dont think we have to go overboard with features. We'd rather start completely using what we have until adding 1000 new features :)

What i'd REALLY like to see is a better star system (*poke poke RT*) :D
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Post by: WMCoolmon on May 14, 2004, 06:12:02 pm
HOLY ****!! :eek:

Now we just need to find someone to do the coding/modding work for FS. :D
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Post by: adwight on May 14, 2004, 06:18:45 pm
That monster thing is the most kickass monster model i've ever seen.
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Post by: Flipside on May 14, 2004, 06:57:01 pm
It is bloody good, but it seems to me that it didn't need to take up 2 million pixels in the high res model, particularly on the arms ;) Nonetheless, great stuff! :D
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Post by: Bobboau on May 14, 2004, 07:40:48 pm
we have people looking into this, thogh more exitement is in the area of real time shadows and over exposure
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Post by: Setekh on May 14, 2004, 08:15:13 pm
Awesome. Like Kal says, it's great use of the tech - I'm always more impressed by this sort of thing than a raw increase in de tail and the like. This is real advancement. :)
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Post by: KARMA on May 15, 2004, 12:29:38 pm
btw I don't see this stuff as optimized for a modding community
I think that nobody of use will ever do for each single model an uber high poly model of milions of triangles just to calculate the normal map.
Oh I'm sure that venom or mikhael or others could do that, but for every ship they make?????doubt so.
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Post by: ChronoReverse on May 15, 2004, 01:21:31 pm
Well, I always see people making models that are too high poly to be used in the game.  Then they have to cut it down.  I suppose they can get the normal-map from the hi-poly original and then apply it the cut-down version (which incidentally, is how it's supposed to work).