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Title: Poetry
Post by: Knight Templar on May 16, 2004, 08:56:51 pm
No, don't get worried. I'm not going to go around immeadiately posting loads of ****ty poems. I'm just curious as to how many of you actually enjoy/read/write any on a semi-regular basis.

Well?
Title: Poetry
Post by: Turambar on May 16, 2004, 09:01:16 pm
We're studying poetry in english class.

*looks up* wow, that's weak
I can't poeticize worth retail FS2  thruster effects
Title: Poetry
Post by: WMCoolmon on May 16, 2004, 09:42:25 pm
doing poetry
is like being tied to a tree
you might write what you can see
but then you get stung by a bee

for a bit it might be fun
but much like a smoking gun
it feels like a ton
when friends come upon.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Turambar on May 16, 2004, 09:51:17 pm
fun gun ton, upon? european? ???
Title: Poetry
Post by: Liberator on May 16, 2004, 10:16:10 pm
Umm, poetry sucks and poets should die and go get real jobs.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Knight Templar on May 16, 2004, 10:41:50 pm
You just lose more credibility everytime you open your mouth, don't you?

Tura: Yeah, we are too. Sadly, it's the only time I ever actually take the time to sit down and write.

The topic is on my mind in particular because I'm doing a little "poetry slam" (contest) Thursday night. Two poems, best presentation/poems win. Probably... ten participants or so (maybe more)...
Title: Poetry
Post by: Liberator on May 17, 2004, 01:49:14 am
You misunderstand, I hate poetry, not poets.  I had to retake English 101 twice because of poetry, I just don't get it.  Hellfire, I don't get a lot of supposedly good prose.  If it's not got robots, FTL travel, or somesuch as part of the main background, I can't stay interested enough to really get into it.  

When I was in High School, we had to read Jane Eyre(sp?), I read it for 2 weeks straight and got exactly 105 pages in, out of about 350 or 400.  In contrast I've been working on The Books of the Gods, part 1 which has 1013 pages and am nearly halfway through it in the same time reading only before I go to sleep at night.
Title: Poetry
Post by: karajorma on May 17, 2004, 04:12:40 am
Edgar Allan Poe.

Kicks arse.

That is all.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Martinus on May 17, 2004, 07:24:41 am
[color=66ff00]Let go the Ting rocket to rate the fallen tree.
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Title: Poetry
Post by: castor on May 17, 2004, 12:43:20 pm
Poetry.. quite interesting.
A form of meditation, maybe. Using words, not to transfer information, but to induce a mental state that couldn't be described with words.
Reading them is like tuning ones mind, to possibly catch and bring to daylight a truth already there, somewhere deep within.

So far I've needed to read some and write some. Not many, but some.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Rictor on May 17, 2004, 03:11:52 pm
There are worlds of difference between real poetry and the crap they teach you in school. Real poetry is about expression and the world are you and all those eternal questions which mankind has been struggling since, well, ever. Writing poetry about your favourite basketball team is, of course, ****. And I hated every minute of it at school. Especially when we were made to analyze poems for their meaning and crap. I reserve the right to think that Picasso was a hack and that T.S.Elliot's poems are terrible. There is no point in art if you have to like it.  If I see no meaning in a painting or a poem, who's to say I'm wrong? Thats what art are all about.

Liberator: Poets, like writers, serve a far more useful purpose in society than any 9 to 5 Joe Schmoe. Why must every contribution to society be tangible? Why is something considered wealth only if you put a fence around it and say "this is mine". Almost anyone here (and anyone in general) is expendable. If you don't put together the widgets, or if you don't write the program code, someone else will. Not so with writers and poets (and artists, philosophers etc), they contribute to the intelectual wealth of society, and I for one consider this to be a greater contribution that merely manufacturing this or serving that. When a writer's works can spark a revolution, or when a singer can stand up to a government, thats important. You build something, and 20 years later its junk. You serve someone at McDonalds, and you think they'll remember you? But if you write, you contribute something to the world which will never fade, which can be a greater weapon than all the guns and all the money you could imagine. Which, in short, can change the world.

With that said, I think alot of art is just made by dumbass posers who think they're sophisticated when they splatter ink on a canvas or write some deep-sounding bull****. **** Pollock, and Warhol and Picasso and whatever "post-modernist" jackass happens to be in style. For me, thats not art, its commercialism in a different package. Three red lines on a white background, sorry but art that ain't.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Jiggyhound on May 17, 2004, 03:13:54 pm
find most of it boring, yet the odd time i like it.
Title: Poetry
Post by: neo_hermes on May 17, 2004, 03:33:23 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma
Edgar Allan Poe.  


i find him rather interesting, too.
Title: Poetry
Post by: diamondgeezer on May 17, 2004, 04:21:15 pm
I tend to hate the work of poets who take themselves seriously, except Japanese haikus. What you people want is Milligan and Dahl, by the boatload:

When I wear my trousers
My legs are in the dark
And they cannot see the duck-ducks
As I stroll around the park


  - Milligan


When I was going to St Ives
I met a man with seven wives
Said he 'I think it much more fun
Than being stuck with only one'


  - Dahl
Title: Re: Poetry
Post by: 01010 on May 17, 2004, 04:28:09 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
No, don't get worried. I'm not going to go around immeadiately posting loads of ****ty poems. I'm just curious as to how many of you actually enjoy/read/write any on a semi-regular basis.

Well?


I enjoy reading them and I've got so much stuff that I've written that it's spilling out of the corners of everything.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Moonsword on May 17, 2004, 05:32:13 pm
I just wrote something after seeing this thread, as a matter of fact, and it's the first poem I've written in over a year.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Jiggyhound on May 17, 2004, 05:33:57 pm
lol, i might post one, it impressed my english teacher anyway :D
Title: Poetry
Post by: Jiggyhound on May 17, 2004, 05:35:05 pm
Old man sweeps, his progress slow.
Ancient sky hangs mysteriously above.
Ignorance stalks his wild primitive mind.

Speed now steady, work moves on, in the
          wake of his broom lies new
      chaos. Growing.

Out of control now information overload binary
                         clouds clogging, blinding his eyes to nature. ManIc
     sweepIng mIstakes regularIly made sea of
                  knowledge evaporate into
                                                                  oblIvIon.

              Comp lain abo   ut        our mistak es do           we –
we   r     aise a du st then          complain we c    ann ot see.


last two lines, great yoda moment :Dugh, pasting also messed up its ub3r layout
Title: Poetry
Post by: Corsair on May 17, 2004, 05:51:53 pm
Personally, I love Tennyson. We studied the romantics in school this year and I found him to be amazing.

I write a little poetry, but most of what I write is more prose. I have some friends who write ridiculously well though.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Knight Templar on May 17, 2004, 07:54:06 pm
I haven't gotten to study any poetry other than Poe's so far, although I like Robert (I think) Service's war-themed poetry.

Incidentally, all of my poetry in the last week has been about politics, which is odd for me.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Rictor on May 17, 2004, 08:09:07 pm
I consider good music to be akin to poetry, only with a musical score. And take away the music, the lyrics still read like a great poem.

*goes off and listens to Los Angeles is Burning*
Title: Poetry
Post by: Knight Templar on May 17, 2004, 08:49:34 pm
Okay, with the poetry contest on Thursday, and all entries due tommarrow at the latest, mine will probably end up being one of these. Go here (http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18891#post18891). Input is appreciated.
Title: Poetry
Post by: Black Wolf on May 18, 2004, 05:31:13 am
As a general rule I'm not a huge fan of poetry, but some stuff is really, really good. William Blake is a brilliant example - go read his stuff if you haven't already and impress your educators. :nod:
Title: Poetry
Post by: TopAce on May 18, 2004, 11:28:28 am
I wrote a funny poem in Hungarian, but translating it would be impossible. All the rhymes would be lost.
Also, I wrote one in English, which I posted at HLP(Roughly a year ago). I got bash for its grammar, but I hope you knew I made some of them intentionally just to keep the rhymes. :)

Found the thread:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,17655.0.html
Title: Poetry
Post by: diamondgeezer on May 18, 2004, 04:00:11 pm
I suspect you were ****ing with me intentionally in that thread