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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Janos on May 24, 2004, 04:53:06 am
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So I spread my mighty Empire with Republic, trade and culture and finally, at late 1400s, control most of the western/southern Pangaea, playing as Americans. I just got pissed off with slow advance, so I tried to simulate the world progress with notorious "ask a ****load of gold per turn" cheat, which then backfired because I grew happy with my scientific progress. Well, just one game.
Suddenly, out of the blue, Greece decides that US is going down. Dunno why, because I gave them luxuries and technology. So I move my forces to prepare to pay back.
Then Zulus declare war on me. Iroquis declare war on Greece and me. China attacks Rome and Greece, and Rome eventually declares war on Iroquis, me and Aztecs. Aztecs freak out and declare war to Greece and Germany. Everyone declares war to me, then asks for peace and some really bizarre military alliances. Zulu asks for peace, I accept. Aztecs declare war on Zulus. France declares war on just about anyone.
At this moment I have managed to force peace on my immediate vicinity, but am still at war with 8 nations, all of which declared war on me with no apparent reason and refuse to accept my emissaries. My population is slowly getting more and more war weary, and the entire world is now a cluster****. I tried supporting some local powers on the other end of the world, and now everyone's busily slaughtering each other. My trade has fallen down, I have hard time trying to beat back the sudden little attack Russians or Babylonians throw at me (again, with little or no reason), and generally it's like a WW1. Thank god I'm at peace with my largest neighbours at this moment.
I mean... WTF. Add the fact that galleys just owned my ironclad and my cavalry is quite often won by spearmen. Yeah right gg nextmap.
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ROFL
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ROFLMAO!
Im playing Civ3 atm....still at peace, and I intend to stay that way.
One word of advice: GET TANKS!!
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I just managed to force Russia to accept light peace terms, and practically surround their area with ari and cavalry.
They declared war on me.
edit: I am aiming for tanks now, but the fact that a lot of combat is at this moment being waged in jungles limits even the tanks' practicality. Trying to cut the horrible Roman-Iroquis-Chinese block (who also are fighting each other) from reaching my territories. This is the most intense war I've ever had. And the stupidest also.
Edit 2: Destroyed the Russians, crushed the Zulus and approaching Babylonia in order to whip some sense into them. Greece and Rome, however, signed a trade blockade against me. All hail the great Invader Janos.
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Build a big army. Then people don't declare war on you. It always works for me.
Oh, and don't play as the U.S. They don't have good characteristics. Babylon, Egypt, and Persia are the best.
I'm currently taking over the world as Egypt...
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Well, my army outnumbered the Greek army in numbers roughly 30:1 and quality was way ahead (Riflemen vs. Spearmen).
I got USA because I just hit "random". Forces you to find all-valid tactics. I really like USAs increased output.
This is really bizarre. Now the countries are more willing to accept my peace offerings, because I just disembowelled Babylon and they're beggin for peace (which I do not intend to give to them yet, for strategic reasons - better to have fully crippled enemy that's angry to you than still somewhat viable opponent which hates you).
Oh, and my oldest friends now signed a trade embargo against me, yet the reason escapes me.
I am busily waitin A) tanks and B) nukes.
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mv /usr/Civ3 /dev/hell
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The longest game of Civ 3 I played, I finished every oposition except one little guy who was on the brink of destruction. A map with lots of sea and islands. I had one ally (England IIRC) in a medium/small island in the upper part of the map. They had fleets of their unique ships making them an ally that no force on earth (except me and my especially prepared nukes in nuclear subs surrounding their island :devil: ) could beat.
While they took care of the seas, I conquered the rest. Game Over, Persia ruled the world!! :D
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I usually just build enough to hold the cities and try to secure the island/continent I am on as fast as possible and try to make sure that I'm the only one there.
After that I just focus on scientific goals so that I can get tanks/destroyers/nukes etc.
They usually always declare war on me though, although they hardly ever attack me.
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SO whats Civ 3 like compaired to Civ 2...I still have Civ 2 on the computer and play it all the time :)
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This is f'in hillarious. Now I need to find this game....
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I notice you said 'find' as opposed to 'buy'.
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Perhaps... :nervous:
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Originally posted by an0n
I notice you said 'find' as opposed to 'buy'.
Well he could be talking about finding his disc that he legally bought in his piles of cd's littered around the room, now couldn't he? :p
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I love that game, until you piss somebody off that is stronger.
On my version without the patch, there is a way to get them to agree to anything. Put in the slot for money per turn 200000000000000 as far as it will go and he'll accept.
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I just... err.. 'found' it. Going to install it now. :D civ 3 gold? Good? I hope.
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
The longest game of Civ 3 I played, I finished every oposition except one little guy who was on the brink of destruction. A map with lots of sea and islands. I had one ally (England IIRC) in a medium/small island in the upper part of the map. They had fleets of their unique ships making them an ally that no force on earth (except me and my especially prepared nukes in nuclear subs surrounding their island :devil: ) could beat.
While they took care of the seas, I conquered the rest. Game Over, Persia ruled the world!! :D
The longest game I ever played. Ghandi kicked ass in a Nuclear Power and caused a huge Nuclear Holocast between me the "babylonians" and Ghandi the "Indians" which then caused the world terrain was completely desert and poluted, but very fun!! :nod:
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I always go with a strong play in both diplomacy and conquest - I estabilish my empire in the Iron age (swordsmen own) then try to strenghen and industrialise my country in the middle ages.
I finally either go for the Spaceship or overpower my technologically lesser foes, while I try to level the lesser states into suporting me.
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Gandhi and nuclear holocaust. That's almost sacriligeous. :D
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But fun ;)
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:lol:
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Well, once I played as Greeks on an archipelago with a lot of islands. I was on a large island group all alone, so I grew as quickly as I could to dominate the island group. Well, good. No problem, no one else here. I focused on peaceful growth and trade, trading my ivory and gems for spices and so on. I also found some outposts on several other islands, which quickly become local power points and navy bases. Other countries find their own cities near my territories, which I then assimilate because of my superior culture and democracy.
North of me is an Japan/India combo and English mainland, east of me Iroquis and Germany and west of me my worst rival, America. As soon as I can I build a huge tank army and transports with marines and focus them around tactical points all around the world. So, theoretically, I could quickly ensure my dominance over key points in the case world situation deteriorates.
It does, but because of me. I HAVE NO URANIUM, FFS! Well, USA does have 4 deposits. They cannot trade with me, because they haven't found it. I cry, but it's, after all, best of me to have uranium and let USA have techs for nukes. I have no choice - they are the only uranium deposits IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. So I give them fission and ask for uranium.
Lincoln: "No."
Me: "What?"
Lincoln: "No, no uranium to you, lalalalalalala."
Me: "Prepare for war and genocide!"
So I roll my entire massive army over the USA, razing cities and bombing them as I move. Other civs become enraged to me, but what can they do? I finally force USA to it's knees, he handing over all his colonial states and all but 3 cities. I then hand over gold and techs to them, you know, better to be a good winner. I try to avoid trouble.
Years pass and I build my nuclear deterrent to stage of ~300 ICBMs and several hundred tactical nukes. This brings my economy to it's knees, so off to the communism we go! Other countries become a bit cautious, because huge and apparently aggressive communism state with hell of a lot of nukes and a huge army - and totally dominant culture - is busily securing world dominance near them. I, however, manage to keep them happy and maintain peaceful relationships. World is at peace. Everyone's more or less happy.
Then USA, in their normal arrogant manner :rolleyes: declare war on me. Because, you know, 3 cities with mech infantry are always a challenge for several dozen stealth bombers, modern tanks and radar artillery. Sadly they accept no peace, so I crush them like worms they are. There we go - my technologically worst adversary bites the dust.
Rest of the world flips out, maybe cause I razed America's capital, and declares war on me. I immediately lose several of my farthest outposts because my buildup of nuclear deterrent. I seal off my own colonies and stop every assault they throw on me.
Then, magically, Iroquis manage to infiltrate my outer line of defence and burn New Troy, one of my regional capitals, into the ground. So I ask them to accept peace or be destroyed. Foolishly, they say "no" to my offer.
I nuke them to the ground and launch and all-out assault on them. World pollution reaches critical levels. Everyone declares war on me. One tactical nuke takes out two of my marines in some ****hole on the other side of the world.
The rest is then what is usually referred as to "one-sided nuclear holocaust". My ICBMs and tact nukes demolish all other cultures at once, and then the rest of the war is my army trying to cut through their adamant defences ->gets thrown back -> nuke the defences -> try again -> nuke more.
Finally the world pollution becomes so horrible my coastal cities start to fall. I am forced to end the game, because other countries started to use nukes as well.
GG JANOS, I WILL NOW GIVE YOU THE ULTIMATE POWER OVER THE WORLD'S NUCLEAR FORCES DURR DURR :D
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Build SDI. Then most of their nukes get shot down. :p
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This game sounds awesome :D Must grab it when I get some spare cash...or maybe...
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*is cursing the 1-hour time trial because he 'lacks' the autorization code and email*
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Never try building the United Nations when you are a powerful communist dictator who imposes their will by force. Not very bright. Panzers, meanwhile, are quite fun....
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*me curses 24KBps*
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hm....this seems interesting......
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You really got to get use to the game, it's pretty hard
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The major problem with the game is that corruption is completely overblown. Three cities away from your capital, your production power is more than halved. Four or five and you're only getting one shield per turn.
The nice thing is that you can rebuild your capital so as to maximize your production and build the Forbidden City far away so that you can have two major industrial regions.
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How much does this game cost?
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dvideogames%26field-keywords%3Dcivilization%26store-name%3Dvideogames/102-7722445-4812944
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
The longest game I ever played. Ghandi kicked ass in a Nuclear Power and caused a huge Nuclear Holocast between me the "babylonians" and Ghandi the "Indians" which then caused the world terrain was completely desert and poluted, but very fun!! :nod:
Dunno about you, but I always play as the Indians (call me Patriotic lol) ;)
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btw...one question. If i have the original Civ 3, is it possible to 'upgrade' to the newer expansions ala half life and CS, or do I have to go and 'acquire' the seperate CDs? :nervous:
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Originally posted by Corsair
The major problem with the game is that corruption is completely overblown. Three cities away from your capital, your production power is more than halved. Four or five and you're only getting one shield per turn.
The nice thing is that you can rebuild your capital so as to maximize your production and build the Forbidden City far away so that you can have two major industrial regions.
That's only true if you use some especially retarded form of government. Dictatorship won't do in the 20'th century.
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My persian republic is doing fairly well, and I'm at peace with my neighbors, for now. It's 1485 AD, I've been in 2 wars with Russia, Germany, and the Zulus, and I'm trying to get accross the ocean to the Iraquios. 2 cities defected to me from Babylon, and I captured one or two Russian cities during wartime...
Not bad for my second day playing. :nod:
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Originally posted by Flaser
That's only true if you use some especially retarded form of government. Dictatorship won't do in the 20'th century.
No, it's like that even if you use a democracy.
If you use communism then every city has the same corruption level. It's collective, y'know? ;)
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Communism is by far the best form of goverment in the late stages of game (if you opt for military might and war and increased production). They don't suffer from war weakness, you can rush production even if running low on funds and corruption is significantly decreased (it's ridiculously huge even on democracy!!).
I always turn into communism at some stage of game, because I find it really depressing when someone declares war on me, my population becomes war weary and the goddamn aggressor won't even accept my ambassadeurs who ask for peace treaty!
But you can actually wage successful wars in Democracy if you want - and even aggressive. Just steam two or three carriers full of B-2s and a couple of battleships near your enemy's capital city or major coastal area. Add a few transports full of marines, few transports with mech infantry and few with modern armour and you can quickly ruin enemy coastal cities. Add a swift, concentrated attack towards your enemy's most habitated areas and you propably can ask for peace treaty in 2-3 turns, if you just focus enough power. Full-scale aggressive invasions are so much harder in democracy that I rarely go for them.