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Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Silent Warrior on June 15, 2004, 11:38:05 am

I have a little question, like. We all know that in Wing Commander, you didn't have much to say about your loadout (Wing Commander 3/4 being very notable exceptions, yet guns were never subject to change - let's all leave Privateer alone for now). Can I assume this is implemented in the mod? Good. :p Dare I ask how?

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Tolwyn on June 15, 2004, 12:15:32 pm

right now change in your loadout is not possible.

Reasons:

first: you are just a 2nd Lt.
second (and far more important): if missile selection would be enabled ot would also allow selection of different gun types.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Starman01 on June 15, 2004, 01:07:27 pm

Sad, but true.

But how about giving access to the loadout sometimes, and then
we can simply give no available guns through FRED.

However, Player could remove a weapons from it's own ship or take a gun from a wingmate. On second thought, bad Idea. Darn, I was hoping for a way of selecting your missile-loadout.

Guess we have to add another argument to our "needed code-change"-list.:(

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Nico on June 15, 2004, 01:44:30 pm

Isn't there weapon specific slots in the SCP? if so, I don't think that would be a pb, since you can mount that gn, and only taht gun, on that particular hardpoint.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Starman01 on June 15, 2004, 01:58:21 pm

Well, that would be the solution.

But I never heard anything about that, you sure it is implemented ?
Our wish-list has already 14 marks, and I don't want to hope for
another wish to be fullfilled.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Moonsword on June 15, 2004, 02:22:49 pm

The real solution is for different primary slots and secondary slots to be able to have a different set of allowable weapons.

That'd be interesting in it's implications for FreeSpace as well as for Wing Commander.  Star Wars may run into a similar problem with planes like the Y-wing which can carry either lasers or ion cannons.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Lynx on June 15, 2004, 02:46:25 pm

I'm 99% sure there is bank specific loadout impleneted in SCP. Just ask Kazan. If there's one who knows it's him.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Lightspeed on June 15, 2004, 04:01:37 pm

It is implemented. Just have several "lists" like you have with secondareis.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Viper61 on June 15, 2004, 06:41:03 pm

It remains not applicable in this case, though :(.  A 2nd Lt. wouldn't get to choose his loadouts.

C-ya

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Tolwyn on June 16, 2004, 07:22:59 am

Is it really possible? How has it to be specified in the tbl?

I was thinking more about possibility to locj primary weapons banks...

hey Moonsword, could you please redo following lines?

The wellington-voices for demo-mission1 sound different from
the others. They should be rerecorded to reach the tone (and
emotion) of the other files, escpecially

d_01_wellington_01.wav (strange toning from the actor at the end)
d_01_wellington_03.wav (strange toning)

d_03_wellington_01.wav

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Moonsword on June 16, 2004, 08:52:14 am

Oh, sure, no problem.

Is that list of files that of those I need to rerecord or the ones I need to match?

EDIT: Okay, I see what you mean, no problem.  I'll have 'em up by tomorrow afternoon.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Tolwyn on June 16, 2004, 09:34:55 am

thanks ;)

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Tolwyn on June 16, 2004, 09:41:47 am

btw, as far as I recall you have rerecorded some lines for our main campaign. Which ones are new and which ones are old? Since you have uploaded all lines again I can not figure it out... at once

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: IceFire on June 16, 2004, 03:25:46 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Lightspeed
It is implemented. Just have several "lists" like you have with secondareis.

Yes it is implemented and no I don't know exactly how to do it but yes there is a way and its been in since many versions ago.  I figured you guys were already using it and the Lieutenant thing was the reason for the loadouts being locked.

Keep in mind that WC: Saga may spawn additional missions where the loadouts may or may not be locked and you may or may not be a Colonel and able to choose loadout :)

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Moonsword on June 16, 2004, 04:23:11 pm

Or be in a situation where you're given some discretion about your loadout.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Tolwyn on June 17, 2004, 12:34:03 pm

the issue is: how to enable this feature? :confused:

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: gevatter Lars on June 17, 2004, 04:59:27 pm

When do we cat the 3 primary thing running???

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2004, 05:46:07 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Tolwyn
the issue is: how to enable this feature? :confused:

I think it's simply along the lines of;

(forget the exact synatx)

$primary banks: ("Prom") ("Kayser")
Where bank 1 has the Prom allowed and bank 2 has the Kayeser allowed.  And soforth where applicable (i.e. cna have 2+ brackets for the default & allowed entries), including the sbanks.

Title: Static load-out?
Post by: Bobboau on June 20, 2004, 12:37:00 am

if you only specify two secondary banks the third (and fourth) will be set to what the first is.
and I believe that is the corect syntax.
this has been enabled sence 3.5.. though somewhat broken untill 3.5.1