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Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 10:10:32 am
OK, I have a laptop, Windows XP. NTFS formatting, only on HD/partition. ( Minus one hidden partition with factory recovery stuff). Now, this laptop has been through some punishment. I ride very bumpy roads, having my backpack, with laptop, shake around a lot. Also, the laptop has been on one time when moving from class to class.  (The sleepmode didn't work). Now, just today, I got a few odd errors. First, the thing hangs when I'm just reading Wikipedia. I know there wasn't any hardware getting removed, I checked that. (The CD drive catch is rather loose, so it slips out sometimes.) The screen is pure black, like it's off. I reboot, after taking the power off with the on/off key. The thing boots, it goes to windows, I see the icons on my screen pop up, and I get a blue screen, with a lighter colour blue then a BSoD, and different text. (Some lines that 'looked' like an illegal op, and some HEX text.) Then, within about 0,2 seconds after showing the screen, it reboots.
Then, it get's back to windows, really slowly. It gives me the error reporting thing, saying something about a serious error. (Like I didn't gather that by now.)

To me, the whole **** reeks like a bad HD or something. It wasn't heat, the laptop has been through worse. (It is about 25 C right now, outside temp. It has been 40 C and the laptop didn't complain then.)
So, I want to run scandisk, but it isn't there. Running chkdisk in command.com gives me zilch as well. My question is: "Where the hell did scandisk go?"

And yeah, I just backed up all my stuff.
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: StratComm on June 16, 2004, 11:51:33 am
Scandisk isn't a component of Windows XP.  The equivalent is to right-click the hard drive from My Computer and go to the tools tab, where "Check Disk for Errors" should be the first option.
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 12:13:46 pm
Thank you.

Why, oh Why, must MS replace every friggin command each time they 'upgrade' the same engine with some patches and a new GUI?
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 12:18:33 pm
OK, I right-click on C got me the same crash as described above.

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The thing boots, it goes to windows, I see the icons on my screen pop up, and I get a blue screen, with a lighter colour blue then a BSoD, and different text. (Some lines that 'looked' like an illegal op, and some HEX text.) Then, within about 0,2 seconds after showing the screen, it reboots.
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Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 12:21:22 pm
OK, interesting, I rebooted, did microsofts error report thingy (the one that sends the private information and stuff), it told me it was my CD software (Pinnacle). Now, I can reach the scandisk thingy, fine, it's scanning now.
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: ChronoReverse on June 16, 2004, 12:45:25 pm
Windows NT systems don't have Scandisk.  They use the oldschool CHKDSK.

When you use that GUI, it just calls CHKDSK in the background
Title: Re: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 12:49:11 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
So, I want to run scandisk, but it isn't there. Running chkdisk in command.com gives me zilch as well. My question is: "Where the hell did scandisk go?"



Really, could it be running scandisk in the background after a bad shutdown? In older versions it showed something, either in DOS or windows, but it always showed something. Did they do it all in the background for XP? :shaking:
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: ChronoReverse on June 16, 2004, 12:55:32 pm
BTW, the chkdsk command you want to use is this:

chkdsk c: /r

This will do a full check, fix the errors and then do the surface scan.

It'll tell you that you need to schedule it for the next reboot.  Just say yes and then reboot.
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: Liberator on June 16, 2004, 01:50:52 pm
Why did they not include Scandisk?  I mean, for one anyway, they(MS) really told the truth, it really is better than CHKDSK.
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 01:54:54 pm
Well, it seems the thingy StrattComm pointed me to does the trick, even if it doesn't look like genuine scandisk.

Still haven't found any errors whatsoever, though.
Title: Scandisk and NTFS/XP Home
Post by: ChronoReverse on June 16, 2004, 02:03:52 pm
@Liberator

Because Scandisk is a FAT32 utility while CHKDSK (for NT) is for NTFS as well.

Additionally, Scandisk _isn't_ better than CHKDSK (for NT in FAT32), it just has a nice GUI ;)


@Kasperl

The GUI for CHKDSK (the Stratcomm tip) doesn't show you any information whether or not it fixed anything.

That's why I bypass the gui completely and just run chkdsk from the command line with the /r option (or /f if I don't want to check for bad sectors).