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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: TopAce on June 18, 2004, 12:49:47 pm
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I figured how the Vasudans could have used the Anubis after the Great War. Assuming from its specifications, it is certainly not expensive to produce. What if the Vasudans somehow made the fighter itself smaller and made it remote-controlled from the mothership? They could have used this fighter like the Protoss do with Interceptors in Starcraft.
Opinions, please.
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or regional/planetary governments could still be using it. due to the fact that it is inexpensive.
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They could still be used as Kamikaze ships in times of deseperation. A training ship for rookie pilots or as a test-bed ship might probably work too.
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Rear-echelon bases and whatnot would probably still have em as guards.
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They were probally more expensive than "not that expensive." C'mon they have been in a war for 14 years, most of there supplies needs to go to support there harsh enviroment, and the destruction of Vasuda Prime.
They were probally bumped down to a civilian level...
and while I'm thinking about it-- from proof from the Vasuda Prime destruction Ani, transports has two sets of engines and anti Gravity Skees from the looks of them.
Two sets of engines because they used fusion power and that was ot a smart thing to do in atmosphere. So fighters would not be able to move through atmosphere and that leads me to believe that there were only transports and freighters moving under atmosphere in freespace...
Sorry about the off-topic-ness...:D
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Take off the guns, add a backseat, instant sports "car".
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Or terrorist mobile bomb.
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Target drone to replace the Amazon as a real target?
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A tin can? :p
*Buh-duh-tsss*
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someone make an Anubis 2. Seriously, the Anubis never lived up to its name except for a couple of missions where they did the kamikazie thing. an anubis 2 with the same general shape has the potential to be cool
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*plans on doing so
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Two sets of engines because they used fusion power and that was ot a smart thing to do in atmosphere. So fighters would not be able to move through atmosphere and that leads me to believe that there were only transports and freighters moving under atmosphere in freespace...
Sorry about the off-topic-ness...:D
None of the FS ships are Atmospheric. They may look like it, but they have no way to sustain an acceleration of 10.9Km/s...
According to my science book, an object has to leave earth's surface at
v = sqrt(2gR)
Where m is the mass of the object, M mass of the earth, G is the gravitational constant, R is the radius of the earth, and v is the escape velocity.
The value evaluates to be approximately:
11100 m/s
40200 km/h
25000 mi/h
So, an object which has this velocity at the surface of the earth, will totally escape the earth's gravitational field (ignoring the losses due to the atmosphere.)
IMHO; It is impossible for FS fighters and bombers to be atmosphericially capeable, since few can reach 100m/s, hardly close to 10.9km/s...
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Well, you only need to produce an accel of 10ms^2 to stay relative to the surface. (Just canceling out gravity). If they can produce 10ms^2 downwards, they can hoover. If they can produce more, they can fly. Escaping the gravity alltogether is something different, but flying itsself might be possible.
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Originally posted by Hippo
None of the FS ships are Atmospheric. They may look like it, but they have no way to sustain an acceleration of 10.9Km/s...
According to my science book, an object has to leave earth's surface at
v = sqrt(2gR)
Where m is the mass of the object, M mass of the earth, G is the gravitational constant, R is the radius of the earth, and v is the escape velocity.
The value evaluates to be approximately:
11100 m/s
40200 km/h
25000 mi/h
So, an object which has this velocity at the surface of the earth, will totally escape the earth's gravitational field (ignoring the losses due to the atmosphere.)
IMHO; It is impossible for FS fighters and bombers to be atmosphericially capeable, since few can reach 100m/s, hardly close to 10.9km/s...
Ssshhhhh! Your ruining our MOD dude....
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Originally posted by kasperl
Well, you only need to produce an accel of 10ms^2 to stay relative to the surface. (Just canceling out gravity). If they can produce 10ms^2 downwards, they can hoover. If they can produce more, they can fly. Escaping the gravity alltogether is something different, but flying itsself might be possible.
True, helicopters can produce a force equal to 10.9m/s/s, but when you get higher into the atmosphere, the low pressure makes it harder to produce thrust with conventional blades... Not sure about thrusters though...
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By simply throwing out enough mass in the right direction, you can do 10ms^2 rather easily, with FS level technology at least. And if you use a thruster, no need to worry about lack of atmosphere, because it will only make things easier. (No wind means it's a lot easier to stay in one postition.)
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Someone (author of Pandora's Box) has made an Anubis 2 and you get to fly it! Isn't that fun?
If you can't detect the sarcasm about how bad that fighter is and how little I think of it, please get your eyes checked. I also intend to have a very good look at the .tbl's in that campagin as there's a few things that just don't seem quite right.
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Meh, the design of the thing is quite nice - in keeping with the older, chunkier style of Vasudan tech. I'd really like to see something of a re-design of hit to be a heavy assault fighter in the FS2 era (more streamlined, heavier armor and primary capacity to match the Erinyes or Ares class).
But that's just me :p
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The design of the Anubis is really nice.
I made a Vasudan mission once in the era of FS1 and I flew the Anubis. I liked it, it is fast and maneuverable. With an Avenger or Prometheus, it can be quite effective in the hands of a good pilot. If someone ever designed an Anubis Mk II, it would only need two additional primary banks and an afterburner. No need for thicker shields and stronger hull.
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Originally posted by TopAce
era of FS1
afterburner
:nervous:
[AHTW] (http://sectorgame.com/ahtw)
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The Anubis Mk. II in Pandora has just two primary banks and is treated as a space superiority fighter. The Thoth's weapons capacity seemed kind of screwy, too.
That's why I'm planning to tear open the .tbl's and see what the problem is.
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Originally posted by Hippo
IMHO; It is impossible for FS fighters and bombers to be atmosphericially capeable, since few can reach 100m/s, hardly close to 10.9km/s...
I prefer to just skip all the technical nonsense and say they've got anti-gravity which allows their ships to both hover and ignore gravity when leaving the atmosphere.
After all, they've got artificial gravity. So why shouldn't they have anti-gravity too?
If that's the case, wings are about as useful to a fighter as the spoiler on a sportscar.
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and thats not true anyway.
You would need that kind of accelleration if you went STRAIGHT UP (rocket like). You can however, fly at an angle which makes things a lot easier - but it will take longer. Technically, everything that can fly and uses a space-capable thruster will be able to leave the atmosphere. Especially since FS-fighters have infinite fuel.
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Artificial Gravity implies some form of Gravity Control System, not necessarily Anti-Gravity. The ships could produce an energy field that modifies it's subjective mass even to negative values, which simulates anti-gravity.
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Originally posted by TopAce
made it remote-controlled from the mothership?
if they could do that, then they would do it with every fighter.
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those of you who have seen the Corrybant from my Dark Breed ships, it was origonaly suposed to be an anubis mk2.
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
and thats not true anyway.
You would need that kind of accelleration if you went STRAIGHT UP (rocket like). You can however, fly at an angle which makes things a lot easier - but it will take longer. Technically, everything that can fly and uses a space-capable thruster will be able to leave the atmosphere. Especially since FS-fighters have infinite fuel.
The can leave the atmosphere because they have infinite fuel? If my motorcycle had infinite fuel, could it leave the atmosphere?
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:lol: I'm sure the X-prize contests would love to have it, then.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
The can leave the atmosphere because they have infinite fuel? If my motorcycle had infinite fuel, could it leave the atmosphere?
errr...read what he said again. carefully.
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Okay, so say I put wings on it, and a thruster. I'd still need to go fast enough to beat gravity.
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I think the remaining ships were used for police duties after the Great War. Behind the frontline.
Or well, at leat I like this idea ;)
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I just like the Anubis, so I'd be forced to say that the Vasudan Gov't couldn't spend money on designing a whole new fleet until a new 'home' could be established, either in Aldebaaran, or elsewhere. So the Anubi (?) where still being produced for the light skirmishes between the remaining shivan forces, pirate groups, HoL. Or hell, the HoL captured the Thoth shipyards, it's possible Anubis plans where there, and the HoL continued production way into the 2340's (Or whenever Templar took place)
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Bah... I made a poopy with the Cbanim... Those skies are actually some kind of fighter escorting the transport!! ;)
In atmosphere there are 2, but in space there are 3. :)
Thanks to Kosh for the heads up...