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Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Grass69er on June 23, 2004, 12:24:49 pm
I've been trying to play FS2 MP, seems I gotta go through PXO, cept I can't create a account, their website comes up withn this error when trying to create an account-

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  Account Creation:
 

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Error Occurred While Processing Request
Error Diagnostic Information
ODBC Error Code = S1009 (Invalid argument value)


[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] '(unknown)' is not a valid path.

Make sure that the path name is spelled correctly and that you are connected

to the server on which the file resides.

Hint: The cause of this error is usually either (1) You have used an

incorrect data source name, or (2) You have changed the location of your

data source either by moving it or renaming one of its parent directories.

After moving a data source make sure you update its attributes using the

Cold Fusion Administrator.



The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of

(CFQUERY), occupying document position (14:10) to (14:54).


Date/Time: 06/23/04 11:43:49
Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Remote Address: 211.27.82.53
HTTP Referer: http://www.pxo.net/newaccount.cfm
Template: C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\pxo\_accounts.cfm
 

thats what I'm getting, I also get simular errors when trying to access other things on the PXO site.
Whats going on? are they dead or something?
Can I still play FS2 online?

GRASS!
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Moonsword on June 23, 2004, 12:28:34 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't PXO having a *lot* of problems these days?
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on June 23, 2004, 12:37:52 pm
It being down might count as a lot of problems.

Do a search on PXO down or something. AFAIK, the server got damaged while moving, and no-one wants to pay to replace it.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Taristin on June 23, 2004, 12:58:14 pm
When's Inq gonna' set up the FSOpen PXO replacement?
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Grass69er on June 23, 2004, 01:04:59 pm
damn, i really wanted to play FS2 online, playing against the comp is fine, but I wanna play against real ppl.

GRASS!
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on June 23, 2004, 01:11:33 pm
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
When's Inq gonna' set up the FSOpen PXO replacement?


Not sure, ASAP, IIRC.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: WildWolf on June 23, 2004, 01:15:45 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
It being down might count as a lot of problems.

Do a search on PXO down or something. AFAIK, the server got damaged while moving, and no-one wants to pay to replace it.



How did you hear about that - and how recently?
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on June 23, 2004, 01:21:12 pm
Something on a Descent board, I think through a link on the SCP forum.
A week ago, 2 tops. It might've been sooner, but my feeling for time is wrecked.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: WildWolf on June 23, 2004, 03:05:29 pm
PXO is down for good. I wouldn't really expect it to be back.

You guys should really get together with the guys at descentbb.net to work on getting the PXO source released.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Gloriano on June 23, 2004, 03:34:26 pm
Kevin Bentley?
he was here few months ago asking if someone would help him
I  quote him

Quote
Orginally posted by Kevin Bentley
What I want to do is get the original PXO server source cleaned up and ported to run with mysql on linux. It's not a lot of work, but I was hoping to find someone to help out with it. No offers so far though.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: TopAce on June 23, 2004, 04:12:58 pm
I happened to try to play on PXO server. The flight exactly took 00:00 minutes.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: karajorma on June 23, 2004, 05:32:25 pm
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
Kevin Bentley?
he was here few months ago asking if someone would help him
I  quote him

 


I KNEW I'd read something about someone other than Kazan working on a PXO replacement :)
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Brando on June 26, 2004, 11:54:36 pm
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Originally posted by WildWolf
PXO is down for good. I wouldn't really expect it to be back.

You guys should really get together with the guys at descentbb.net to work on getting the PXO source released.
^^^ Agreed ^^^
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on June 27, 2004, 06:08:16 am
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Originally posted by WildWolf
PXO is down for good. I wouldn't really expect it to be back.

You guys should really get together with the guys at descentbb.net to work on getting the PXO source released.


Would this allow retail FS2 players to play as well?

If it does, it might be worth it. For the SCP we have a working alternative ready to go up, only waiting for a server.
Title: FS2
Post by: DW-Suzanna on June 29, 2004, 09:27:01 am
I thought Grass 69r  and other people trying to find an FS2 game on line, might like to contact us at www.darkwing-squad.com on our forum, as we are playing Freespace 2 on ip since pxo disappeared down a black hole.....

Cya in space.......DW-Suzanna
                           Darkwing squad
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Lonestar on June 29, 2004, 09:41:20 am
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
Kevin Bentley?
he was here few months ago asking if someone would help him
I  quote him

 


I could help this guy out. Where do i help?
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: WildWolf on June 29, 2004, 10:21:33 am
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Originally posted by kasperl
Would this allow retail FS2 players to play as well?



No. The game would have to be patched. There's some code in FS2 that points to the PXO server - if the server changes, that code is moot.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: karajorma on June 29, 2004, 11:14:21 am
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Originally posted by WildWolf
No. The game would have to be patched. There's some code in FS2 that points to the PXO server - if the server changes, that code is moot.


Would it be possible to redirect that output in some way. Like by editing the host file for instance?
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on June 29, 2004, 01:05:55 pm
Is there any way at all to give people who currently install FS2, and run Mplayer, a link or ticket to the new server/this community?
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: WildWolf on June 29, 2004, 01:26:13 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
Is there any way at all to give people who currently install FS2, and run Mplayer, a link or ticket to the new server/this community?



I'm sure there is. Volition could set something up so when somebody tries to register a PXO account, a message informs them of a new, 3rd party server.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on June 30, 2004, 09:33:05 am
This could be very nice.

What about current PXO pilots, not aware of the SCP?

(I'll ask Inquisitor about setting up the tracker.)
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Hunter on June 30, 2004, 09:38:36 am
The offices that house the PXO servers were being moved, however either they were damaged during this process or there just wasn't enough time to get them moved. AFAIK there is no one willing to put in the extra effort to get them running mainly because they are viewed as "redundant" to Volition now. There is someone over at Outrage who kept things running such as the chat servers during PXO's up-time, but I doubt he can pull any strings to get them servers back.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: TopAce on June 30, 2004, 10:39:49 am
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Originally posted by kasperl
...
What about current PXO pilots, not aware of the SCP?
...


It seems you did not advertise yourselves very well.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: WildWolf on June 30, 2004, 12:33:04 pm
You could try and make them aware? I doubt there are too many people who played regularly on PXO who are not aware of this site.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on June 30, 2004, 01:04:49 pm
Dunno, I played quite a bit some time ago, but almost everyone I flew with was unaware of the SCP. I kept giving them links to HLP, off course, but I doubt many remembered.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Inquisitor on July 01, 2004, 10:24:15 am
WildWolf? THE WildWolf? How the hell did I miss this post.

Yes, I am actively trying to get the bloody PXO code, but nobody seems interested in actually committing. Kevin suggested release was imminent but then he vanished. Someone on the DBB was talking to a V employee, but wouldn't give up the information so I could work that contact and get the code.

If ANYONE can get me in touch with them, I can do this in a weekend with the infrastructure I have and we can start either reintegrating it into the SCP and/or do somethign about the retail forlks, but I have hit a wall.

Please, if anyone is in contact with anyone who CAN do somethign about this, give them MY contact information or just have them bloody call me :)
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: TopAce on July 01, 2004, 01:14:03 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
Dunno, I played quite a bit some time ago, but almost everyone I flew with was unaware of the SCP. I kept giving them links to HLP, off course, but I doubt many remembered.


I also directed some people here. I don't know if they ever posted here.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: WildWolf on July 01, 2004, 01:36:03 pm
yep, i am "the" wildwolf ;)

Kevin Bentley was working on getting PXO code out there, I heard. But he had a baby really recently, so those efforts have been derailed. At least that's what I read. I don't know Kevin too well.

You can try and contact Mark Allender. He is the technical lead at Volition and he would be your best bet on getting something like that going through Volition. Please email me to get his contact info.

[email protected]

I can try and offer Mark my help too if necessary, since Mark loves me with a fiery passion, but I don't know if that will make any difference. But I would like to see PXO code released, especially since it's closed. That would have been my plan all along had I successfully convinced everyone that closing PXO was the right decision :)
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Inquisitor on July 01, 2004, 02:45:32 pm
I'll email you when I get back form the office.

Welcome back, Todd, long time no see ;)
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Inquisitor on July 02, 2004, 08:20:04 am
Sent.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: Styxx on July 04, 2004, 08:30:22 pm
Oh, since you're contacting people at Volition, if you get any reply try to remind them that the Community Links page on the Freespace 2 site is horribly outdated, and that linking to HLP and the SCP, for example, would be damn easy.

;)
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: karajorma on July 05, 2004, 05:25:55 am
Might be better to grab the page, edit the source and send it back. The less work you ask someone to do the more likely it is that they'll do it :D
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: TopAce on July 05, 2004, 05:39:49 am
Linking only to HLP if simpler than linking to both HLP and the SCP.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: wolfdog on July 05, 2004, 05:49:27 am
Hmm... I played on pxo a lot.. and i can confirm what Kasperl said..
Only the vets seem to know about it..
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on July 05, 2004, 07:56:10 am
Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Might be better to grab the page, edit the source and send it back. The less work you ask someone to do the more likely it is that they'll do it :D


Good idea.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: castor on July 05, 2004, 05:13:33 pm
Regarding FS multi, it would be of utter  importance to get the relevant HLP threads linked from the Volition site (how about a stickied "FSO grand multi" thread at HLP?).

Currently, there's too many  steps for new FS ppl to find their way to the sources of information; basically, only a seasoned FS'er will accomplish it like it is now.

We simply can't afford it.
Title: Fs2 Mp, Pxo?
Post by: kasperl on July 06, 2004, 02:19:09 pm
I know, but there aren't much ways to fix that, unless we get a link from freespace2.com.

The biggest issue right now is SCP documentation. It's complicated, and it's outdated. We should archive the current manual, and write a new one, using the installer as the basis. I have right now little time, and my writing style isn't all that clear. I'll try, but help is needed. The wiki is easily editable, trust me.