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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on June 23, 2004, 12:26:43 pm
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someone i know is selling a 1974 cadillac coupe deville for $600.00
it's in "good" condition, inside and out, and features the rarely found interior and roof. it has 92,000 miles on it, a 472c.i. engine.
i was going to make it my daily driver:
(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/newcadillac/car.JPG)
(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/newcadillac/car2.JPG)
(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/newcadillac/car3.JPG)
only thing is, i'm in Houston, Texas... it's in Orlando, Florida
:/
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No. Florida bad!
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How many MPG?
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You'd be better off asking how many gallons per mile.
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Bearing in mind this is from a Brit view of any car market...
My opinion - 600 for a Caddy is quite good - IF the mileage clock's not been round the dial once already.
Looks nice, and with a lotta lurv could be even nicer.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
You'd be better off asking how many gallons per mile.
For a Yank car? Probbably, yes.
No offence dudes, but you pay what, 60 cts a litre? We pay 1,25, and that's without converting to dollars. And your cars guzzle so much fuel you still pay a lot.
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Hmm... Let's see. It's about 2.5L/Gallon, right? That means our gas is just over 0.8 USD/liter.
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If it ain't the Psycho Billy Cadillac, then it ain't worth it.
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Suggestion:
Cylinder leak-down test and compression test.
Make it clear that the sale is dependent on you having the car inspected by a mechanic of your own choosing. usually 40-60 bucks, but mon-ay well spent.
Parts are easy to get for that car, and they're not that hard to work on. If it checks out, and you're only dumping 600 bucks, might as well. That's less than two months of car payments on a new one (at least considering mine...)
Good luck.
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Looks in nice shape from the photos. It'd probably be worth the trip to pick it up. Bus down, drive back.
Something that old check for rust on the frame mounts and the section of frame that passes over the rear axel. Front frame often goes at about where the firewall meets the floor pans. If the frame is good, check the brake lines for rust, and the brake hoses for cracking.
At that mileage most of the mechanicals are probably still in good shape, only thing you'll want to do right away is replace the suspension bushings (Go with polyurethane replacements if you can swing it.) to tighten up the handling from cruise ship to land yacht.
Highway fuel mileage will probably be halfway ok - as long as you keep your foot out of the oilpan :)
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It's fugly :p
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Yeah, but he can use it to pick up the Golden Ladies. You know, age 65 and up.
;7
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We just got a new Toyota, 64,000km (about 40,000 miles), '94. If it gets you from A to B... :p
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Mmmm....Florida. Tropical and salty. Check for rust on the engine components.
Otherwise, although not a looker, hey not too bad either.
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Sounds okay. A car from the late 70's should be okay on the gas. It won't be 30 mpg, but you should get 20 mpg easy.
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For $600? Might as well. I need to find a used car cheap as I can't afford a new one also...
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Yeah, but he can use it to pick up the Golden Ladies. You know, age 65 and up.
;7
i use my 1980 cadillac for that ;) www.f1f3.com/cadillac/
actually, i misread the email... the engine actually has only 82,000 miles, not 92,000. and in order for it to go round the clock, it would have to have 1 million and 82 thousand miles on it, which i doubt ;)
i should get at least 12 MPG if i'm lucky. my current car gets 6-7, so it'll be a step up. i was planning on keeping this 74 as my daily driver. to get me to university and back, to movies, etc. and keep the 80 as a weekend/work car.
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Well, estimates on your age will increase by a few decades.
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i don't care, that's good. means there's a lot less chance of someone breaking into it for whatever reason.
because who wouls break into an old man/woman's car :D :D :D
more pictures:
(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/newcadillac/car4.JPG)
(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/newcadillac/car5.JPG)
(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/newcadillac/car6.JPG)
(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/newcadillac/car7.JPG)
it looks great
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Originally posted by Stealth
i i should get at least 12 MPG if i'm lucky. my current car gets 6-7, so it'll be a step up. i was planning on keeping this 74 as my daily driver. to get me to university and back, to movies, etc. and keep the 80 as a weekend/work car.
:wtf: You don't pay for your own gas, do you? :wtf:
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Why shouldn't he? He pays as much as the rest of us, it costs $30.00 min to fill my tank these days. Older cars have ginormous tanks, mine holds 25 gals. and will go about 350 miles on that amount.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
:wtf: You don't pay for your own gas, do you? :wtf:
i paid for my car, i pay for my insurance every month, and registration, i pay for any maintenance the car needs, and yes, i pay for gas.
why do you ask?
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Stealth, go for it!! :yes:
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yeah i'm going to. i just sold my subwoofers... my precious babys :( :( :(, but that'll give me $300 to put in my pocket, so......
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Originally posted by Stealth
i paid for my car, i pay for my insurance every month, and registration, i pay for any maintenance the car needs, and yes, i pay for gas.
why do you ask?
It's got to hurt the wallet majorly... what.. once a week? At 6mpg...
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yeah for real man. that's why i've been trying to sell my car :p see, i have a 25 gallon tank, and i get usually around 170-175 miles to a tank.
and because of the compression ratio, it runs only on premium, which is $2.00 a gallon, and takes close to $50.00 to fill the tank up, which is usually once a week.
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$2.00 a gallon? :wtf:
Oh... right... you live in Texas.
Feh. :p
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yeah. how much is premium gas over there? it's like 2.01 at the moment :-/
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$2.00 would be nice. Premium right now is mid 2's, unless you go to Costco.
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oooh. i thought you were implying it was less than 2.00. i was about to say......
yeah. so i guess there's benefits to living in Texas anyway. ... even though they may be rare and hard to find
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Don't forget Texas Toast.
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what's that?
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****ing huge toast. With Garlic.
Another Costco goodie.
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so that's actually a benefit to Texas?
you're complimenting Texas!?
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Really, Stealth, 12 MPG is terrible. IIRC MPG--> KM/L is deviding by 3, so you're running 4 KM/L. Our terrrible Chrysler Grand Voyager does 6 to 8, depending on trafffic jams. Most small cars out here are supposed to do at least 12 KM/L.
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but you fail to see that this is no small car... it's a 240" long, 6000 pound+, 472 cubic inch beast of a car. no room for hondas here.
:p
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that is one sweet car man (at least to my tastes)
although the Km/L is not too good (we do a fair bit more over here), its still better than what your old seems to be doing. That, and its got power. Man, GO FOR IT!
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With small car I meant anything smaller then a soccer mom SUV.
And I think anyone who's driving a Hummer should have his tired slashed and his gas tank emptied everytime he parks. Everyone who wants to buy a 4x4 should be forced to proove he needs one of em to do his work or get to his or his family's house or something.
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I hear that. :yes:
Stealth: Bugger me, how rich are you? :eek2: That's a hell of a lot of money to blow on fuel every week. Not to mention the amount of crap that thing's gonna throw out in it's emissions (though you can't get busted for that in the US), especially given it's age.
I personally wouldn't buy a car that averaged less than 20mpg, but then I live in the UK. We pay about 80p per litre (well over US$1), so you'd have to be loaded to run a car that guzzled the amounts you're talking about...
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Stealth: Bugger me, how rich are you? :eek2: That's a hell of a lot of money to blow on fuel every week. Not to mention the amount of crap that thing's gonna throw out in it's emissions (though you can't get busted for that in the US), especially given it's age.
not rich, i work 4 days a week *shrugs*
see, i would LOVE to have a civic or something, but it's hard to find a good condition gas 'sipper' like a honda, toyota, etc. that doesn't cost $4000+, because nowdays that's what everyone goes for, and they're hard to find cheap.
actually, as far as emissions go, my 80 cadillac blew away the emissions test. the guy that gave it said that it's typical for the older cars. he said he bought a brand new mustang, and it failed the emissions test, while my 22 year old car (at the time i took the test) passed with flying colors.
Find me any 4 (or even 6) cylinder car for under $1000.00, anywhere in the US, in running condition (body doesn't matter, as long as it runs good and clean) and i'll buy it tomorrow :D
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And I think anyone who's driving a Hummer should have his tired slashed and his gas tank emptied everytime he parks. Everyone who wants to buy a 4x4 should be forced to proove he needs one of em to do his work or get to his or his family's house or something.
www.fuh2.com
i hate hummers. they weigh 8500+ pounds, have 6.0 L engines that eat up almost as much gas as my car (i have the same size engine as a H2) and they suck. they're pointless. and god help you if you ever get in a wreck with one, because, as was mentioned in the site, unfortunately not everyone can afford to drive a military assualt vehicle...
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Well, the damn things aren't even safe themselves. Either nothign get's crunched on the outside, meaning that all the crash energy comes into you, or everything crunches, meaning the cabin comes into you. The safest car on earth right now is the Renault Espace. Geuss what we're getting next.....
As for money, calculate how long it would take for you to earn the added cost back in spared fuel money.
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Heh, fair enough :D. And nobody except farmers should be allowed 4x4s. They're just....crap.
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Originally posted by Stealth
so that's actually a benefit to Texas?
you're complimenting Texas!?
No no no no... I'm just saying, there's only three good things about texas. Those two and the Alamo.
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*Raa loves his Integra. It gets 30 miles per gallon on the cheap gas. And it's more nimble for maneuvering around big clunky 70's cars.*
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
No no no no... I'm just saying, there's only three good things about texas. Those two and the Alamo.
yeah ok, i was about to say.
although i'm sure we could think of a handful of other 'good' things about Texas... but yeah, for the most part, i agree with that ^^^^^
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Originally posted by Stealth
...and god help you if you ever get in a wreck with one, because, as was mentioned in the site, unfortunately not everyone can afford to drive a military assualt vehicle...
So that's a reason to deny people the right/opportunity to buy one? The reason SUVs of all kinds are popular is because they are inherently safer to have a wreck in than eco-cars.
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Originally posted by Liberator
So that's a reason to deny people the right/opportunity to buy one? The reason SUVs of all kinds are popular is because they are inherently safer to have a wreck in than eco-cars.
Are they? A Renault Megane pulled more stars out of the Euro safety thingy then a Land Rover, and some big SUV I forgot the name of.
And yeah, people should be denied the opportuniuty to buy one if it completely wrecks the envirement, and guzzles the same amount of petrol you can run 4 other cars on. (An accelerating Hummer pulls 1 (one!) MPG, and a normally driving one 3. )
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Originally posted by Liberator
So that's a reason to deny people the right/opportunity to buy one? The reason SUVs of all kinds are popular is because they are inherently safer to have a wreck in than eco-cars.
Heheh, not sure about that - I'd have thought it would be because people think "I know, I'll get a big, wide car so I can fit my big, wide ass into it without breaking it", or because they were fashionable about 8 years ago. And they're not safer at all - off-roaders (or not, in the case of most of them :p) are unstable at high speeds, and roll far more easily than normal cars. There was a test on "Fifth Gear" (motoring magazine programme on Five), where they got a Range Rover and an old BMW 5 Series, and drove them behind another car. The car in front suddenly jammed on the brakes, and the following car had to swerve around it. They then increased the speed both cars were travelling at, and watched the results.
The Beamer stayed fine up to 80mph (though it did spin at higher speeds), and they stopped the test there. The Range Rover flipped on it's roof and rolled 4 times at 45mph. Now, I dunno about you, but I'd rather spin into another car than get crushed upside down.... ;)
Raa: :D Nice - the Japanese and the Germans build the best cars by a long way. Normal cars, anyway. The British and the Italians build the best top-end sports cars....
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yeah, i don't think it's right to sell Hummers. if people can buy Hummers, why can't i buy a sherman tank?
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"And if I can own a pistol, why can't I own an M-249?"
This phrase just popped up in my head, dunno why. (I am against allowing guns for civilians, BTW.)
Top Gear (UK BBC car Tv show thingy) tested the aforemention Renault Megane, and a lot of other vehicles on safety, and they included the hummer. The result was clear: A good, small car is safer then a very big, but not safety designed car. Hummers were especially mentioned as being bad, and the part where Jeremy drove one through a town was fantastic. (England has small roads in most towns, FYI. Very small, compared to a Hummer.)
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Originally posted by Stealth
yeah, i don't think it's right to sell Hummers. if people can buy Hummers, why can't i buy a sherman tank?
Because you can't afford it?
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... true :)
but i was trying to make a point. thanks for ruining it :-p
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Hey, it's what I do.
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Actually....something like an old M3A1 Stuart or the later M5 would be a better bet for London roads....#Shermans are just so hard to park..... ;) Though, legally, providing the weapons are not functional, there is absolutely no law against them being used on the roads... MOT test must be interesting though.....
'Sorry mate..it failed. Range finder is way off .....'
Living in London, I have grown to loathe the 4x4 ... they just don't fit here! I actually saw a guy driving a Hummer through rush hour traffic in Finsbury Park, taking up 2 lanes and REALLY P***ing off everyone!
Me....I ride a bike. No traffic jams, no queing, and her cute little fuel tank only costs £7 to fill up. For city travel, the big trail bike os your friend ;) .... oh..bugger...it's raining again... :(
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Originally posted by kasperl
"And if I can own a pistol, why can't I own an M-249?"
This phrase just popped up in my head, dunno why. (I am against allowing guns for civilians, BTW.)
Top Gear (UK BBC car Tv show thingy) tested the aforemention Renault Megane, and a lot of other vehicles on safety, and they included the hummer. The result was clear: A good, small car is safer then a very big, but not safety designed car. Hummers were especially mentioned as being bad, and the part where Jeremy drove one through a town was fantastic. (England has small roads in most towns, FYI. Very small, compared to a Hummer.)
you should seen the one with the Thunderbirds car*.......
(pink one)