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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => FS2 Open Coding - The Source Code Project (SCP) => Topic started by: Nazgul9 on June 27, 2004, 05:09:49 pm
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Each time i try to run the game it goes back to the desktop. For a fraction of a sec i get to see the startup screen (a pic of vast space, a planet and ships i think) and then bang, back to windows. It's happening both with selected mods as well as without them, in D3D and in OpenGL (when OpenGL is selected i'm first getting an error message before it goes back to windows).
What am i doing wrong?! Please help.
First i installed FreeSpace 2, then the 1.2 patch and then the FS2 Open 3.6 package.
My setup:
Athlon XP @2000Mhz
Radeon 9000Pro 64MB (Catalyst 3.10)
512MB ram
WinXP
etc...
The errorlog (in the FS2 Open install directory) contains the following lines:
fs2_open_3_6 caused an Access Violation in module fs2_open_3_6.exe at 001b:00000000.
Exception handler called in Freespace 2 Main Thread.
Error occurred at 6/27/2004 23:18:28.
E:\FreeSpace2Open\fs2_open_3_6.exe, run by xxx (my name).
1 processor(s), type 586.
512 MBytes physical memory.
Read from location 00000000 caused an access violation.
Registers:
EAX=00000005 CS=001b EIP=00000000 EFLGS=00010206
EBX=00000004 SS=0023 ESP=0012f614 EBP=00000000
ECX=0012ff24 DS=0023 ESI=00000008 FS=0038
EDX=02227994 ES=0023 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
Stack dump:
0012f614: 00402a0f 77f6d7e4 ffffffff 0012ff34 7ffdf000 00000020 00000400 00000300
0012f634: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f654: 665c3a45 73656572 65636170 65706f32 0000006e 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f674: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f694: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f6b4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f6d4: 465c3a45 53656572 65636170 65704f32 73665c6e 78652e32 00000065 00000000
0012f6f4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f714: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f734: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f754: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f774: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f794: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000001
0012f7b4: 37dd8f0c ffffffff 37dd8f0c 0c3be66e 52544e49 564d2e4f 00120045 00000000
0012f7d4: 0012f868 77d6edbf 77d94f40 ffffffff 77d458b1 77d43a68 0012f820 00140000
0012f7f4: 0012fa7c 005f635f 00000067 0012fa94 0012fa68 0067e97e ffffffff 00000000
0012f814: 0012fa7c 005f5d6e 0000005c 0012fa94 0012fa68 77f6d7e4 ffffffff 7ffdf000
0012f834: 77f6d567 ffffffff 77f517e6 77f51778 77f517b2 0012fabc 0012fab4 00000000
0012f854: 00000001 00000000 000002ef 00140640 00152888 000001ee 77f52438 77f5248c
0012f874: 77f517b2 000003ff ffffffff 7ffdf000 77f760e6 77f57b3a 0012f8ac 77f517b2
0012f894: 77f6d7e4 ffffffff 7ffdf000 ffff0000 00000000 0000c038 6d59f5c1 00000000
0012f8b4: 0012f8a0 00140640 0012ff24 77d6edbf 77d94f00 465c3a45 53656572 65636170
0012f8d4: 65704f32 0000006e 00000000 77d4454d 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012f8f4: 0012fda0 77fb4da6 77f51566 0004e27d 00140640 0012fae0 06fb0050 06fb0050
0012f914: 087b0000 087b0000 00000000 ffffffff 0012f950 77f760e6 77f66090 0012f944
0012f934: 003d0008 06fb0000 07f11648 07f11648 6d59f572 00000000 00001000 003d0000
0012f954: 06fb0000 06fb0000 08780648 00005f37 77f5676e 06fb0000 00140178 00153098
0012f974: 06fb0608 00140178 00140178 00000000 0012f9b4 77f595ea 00005f37 00152888
0012f994: 0012f9b0 77f51d1c 000001ee 00153090 00140000 00152888 00000000 0012fa84
0012f9b4: 77f51dc9 00140178 77f51ec8 00140608 77f5166a 0012fabc 45455246 43415053
0012f9d4: 325f3245 00008000 06fb0000 087b0018 00000001 0012fabc 77f623f2 00152890
0012f9f4: 0012fa40 0012fa88 77f5166a 77f6d7e4 ffffffff 77f52e15 00140178 00152890
0012fa14: 77f52eae 00140178 00140178 000007fe 0001ff7c 0012fa18 0001ffef 00000006
0012fa34: 00152888 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 000002ef
0012fa54: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 77f52013 00000003 ffffffff 00000001
0012fa74: 0012f834 00000000 0012fab4 005ef536 0012fa94 0067e981 0012fac8 ffffffff
0012fa94: 006c2ecf 7ffffffb 006c2ecc 00000042 77e81b92 77f6d7e4 7ffdebf8 02080022
0012fab4: 0012ff34 00408ad7 006c2ecc 0067e97c 00000067 00408aed 00000006 00000000
0012fad4: 00407c09 00000020 00000021 1ff7c000 15554000 4e27d000 436af000 7ffe0000
0012faf4: 7885c000 465c3a45 53656572 65636170 65704f32 7366006e 706f5f32 335f6e65
0012fb14: 652e365f cf006578 58ed4f62 115c9b07 00000a00 00000000 00000080 00000000
0012fb34: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012fb54: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000800 00000000 0012fcc4 0014e0d4
0012fb74: 0014e0d0 00000100 77dd5a95 0014e0ec 77dd5a9e 0014e0d4 77e38460 0012fcd8
0012fb94: 00000000 77dd5a5e 0014df88 00000001 00000100 0012fd50 00000000 00000000
0012fbb4: 8067072b 1d67e684 c023f32e b5912130 05de7a96 30f7e95c 5692202b 2d5ccc23
0012fbd4: e9747791 1fe07e06 7615de1e 92f38f82 ad1f2023 4160f4c5 29643547 3d750dd8
0012fbf4: 0a5a7f7b de53cafb e6223817 942ae945 b95288f6 0b7e18af f991d9b1 880d97df
0012fc14: 4b57896a 9533fda7 f150ce29 76aec39c 4560a114 fdc1169c d22836ea 9e1e29db
0012fc34: a5346d7f cb15df3a bbd59030 2b91a32e 4a75dfc8 b2bbb3d7 d6d5cfd2 476b4062
0012fc54: 4547c4cb abdbc014 fd4b8425 86b61f8c 39905ec4 bd684a48 b1804d5d bdac4102
0012fc74: e9821689 e13236e5 eb0b316c efcc88a5 35ba4415 8f78d514 b1e3f2f5 183023a8
0012fc94: 17741006 4b362879 b290cc64 a91e9a40 cc45e8dd 354b1daa 623da4b9 f1ccee77
0012fcb4: 77e38480 00000100 00000001 00000100 0012fcdc 77dd59e1 0012fd50 00000100
0012fcd4: 0012fd18 00000100 0012fcfc 77dd59ab 00000000 0012fd50 00000100 0012fd28
0012fcf4: 00000000 00000100 0012fd28 77dd595a 0012fd18 0012fd50 0012fe58 00143824
0012fd14: 00143820 00000010 7800b829 0014383c 7800b832 00143824 00000001 00000100
0012fd34: 00000000 7800b7cc 001435b8 00000002 00000010 0012fe94 0012fe94 8331a3af
0012fd54: 66b5d56f a86459fb c0e414dc 87850464 5c120e4d 5cb007ad 22989a6c 0c618390
0012fd74: 5bda799d cf07010d a0635d40 6b4412d9 f0e6421a 2568266f 13ce3971 91aa2aa9
0012fd94: 91144188 acb90379 5684145e d101ed75 8f0746da f1a4e861 44e9f47e ede3d272
0012fdb4: c1f5739e 9ba86e6c a6e5553f 7ee911ce 46de37d3 b1fe06ed adf9ff31 49f33b12
0012fdd4: cb7a125f 4b80b323 1afdf037 eb44e158 4944c2f8 13162790 dbc0ebb9 1a114d59
0012fdf4: baa757fa 0683453e 035cbd41 144cfbc1 ce027de2 1a033f27 43066596 2c5c4c41
0012fe14: b76cd6c0 c8166198 60a3f172 83dd6a74 f58415b2 27abb0b0 1e67ff2f a4c8dff0
0012fe34: 12cda67f 4ce84dfb 7628f360 4f86ce29 771c458c 772bb698 00000002 00000001
0012fe54: 0012fea4 771c4522 00000017 00000001 00000001 00000000 00000002 00000000
0012fe74: 00000017 771c0c28 001526f4 771c0d5e 771c0821 772bb640 772bb638 771c07f4
0012fe94: 772bb640 771c462f 00000000 8007000e 0014e9f8 771b449c 00000000 00000000
0012feb4: 771ce49e 0014e9f8 0012fefc 772bb6f4 00000000 772bb264 0012fef4 771c0fd8
0012fed4: 00000001 00000000 00000002 00000000 00000000 77f6d7e4 7ffdf000 00000002
0012fef4: 0012ff34 00407d20 00400000 00000000 00142393 0000000a 77f6d7e4 00000000
0012ff14: 7ffdf000 ffffffff 0012ff0c 0012f23c 0012ffb0 005efb38 00647590 00000000
0012ff34: 0012ffc0 005f0bd5 00400000 00000000 00142393 0000000a 77f6d7e4 0000004c
0012ff54: 7ffdf000 81ff4000 00142393 00000000 00000044 00144290 00144408 00144420
0012ff74: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012ff94: 00000000 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff 0012ff4c e17eb2a0 0012ffe0
0012ffb4: 005efb38 0064d130 00000000 0012fff0 77e814c7 77f6d7e4 0000004c 7ffdf000
0012ffd4: b3568cf0 0012ffc8 8053c88f ffffffff 77e94809 77e91210 00000000 00000000
0012fff4: 00000000 005f0af5 00000000
Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\d3d8thk.dll, loaded at 0x00370000 - 8192 bytes - 3df82460 - file date is 12/12/2002 00:14:32
E:\FreeSpace2Open\fs2_open_3_6.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 2916447 bytes - 40a2e78b - file date is 5/18/2004 16:10:46
C:\WINDOWS\System32\d3d8.dll, loaded at 0x028c0000 - 1177600 bytes - 3dedc941 - file date is 12/12/2002 00:14:32
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DDRAW.dll, loaded at 0x51000000 - 284160 bytes - 3dedc926 - file date is 12/12/2002 00:14:32
C:\WINDOWS\System32\dsound.dll, loaded at 0x51080000 - 355328 bytes - 3dedc968 - file date is 12/12/2002 00:14:32
C:\WINDOWS\System32\imaadp32.acm, loaded at 0x58420000 - 14848 bytes - 3d6df9d6 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:39:20
C:\WINDOWS\System32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x5ad70000 - 203264 bytes - 3d6df9da - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:18
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Speech\sapi.dll, loaded at 0x5d090000 - 696320 bytes - 3d6df9f4 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:12
C:\WINDOWS\System32\OPENGL32.dll, loaded at 0x5ed00000 - 686080 bytes - 3d6df9e5 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:10
C:\WINDOWS\System32\KsUser.dll, loaded at 0x5ef80000 - 4096 bytes - 3dedcbf6 - file date is 12/12/2002 00:14:32
C:\WINDOWS\System32\GLU32.dll, loaded at 0x68b20000 - 116736 bytes - 3b7dfe60 - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x70a70000 - 401920 bytes - 3d6dfa02 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:12
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.10.0_x-ww_f7fb5805\comctl32.dll, loaded at 0x71950000 - 921600 bytes - 3d6df9b6 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:32
C:\WINDOWS\System32\WS2HELP.dll, loaded at 0x71aa0000 - 18944 bytes - 3b7dfe32 - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\System32\WS2_32.dll, loaded at 0x71ab0000 - 75264 bytes - 3b7dfe31 - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\System32\WSOCK32.dll, loaded at 0x71ad0000 - 21504 bytes - 3b7dfe31 - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DINPUT.dll, loaded at 0x72280000 - 151552 bytes - 3d6dfa07 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:40:50
C:\WINDOWS\System32\msadp32.acm, loaded at 0x72cf0000 - 13312 bytes - 3d6dfa0a - file date is 8/29/2002 05:40:12
C:\WINDOWS\System32\msacm32.drv, loaded at 0x72d10000 - 20480 bytes - 3b7dfe2a - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\System32\wdmaud.drv, loaded at 0x72d20000 - 22016 bytes - 3b7dfe2a - file date is 8/17/2001 22:37:04
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DCIMAN32.dll, loaded at 0x73bc0000 - 7680 bytes - 3b7dfe25 - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll, loaded at 0x760f0000 - 455680 bytes - 3d6dfa1c - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:18
C:\WINDOWS\System32\SHFOLDER.dll, loaded at 0x76780000 - 22528 bytes - 3d6dfa1e - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:12
C:\WINDOWS\System32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x76b40000 - 171520 bytes - 3d6dfa20 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:18
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Secur32.dll, loaded at 0x76f90000 - 52224 bytes - 3d6dfa22 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:12
C:\WINDOWS\System32\CLBCATQ.DLL, loaded at 0x76fd0000 - 468480 bytes - 3b7dfe10 - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\System32\COMRes.dll, loaded at 0x77050000 - 792064 bytes - 3b7dfe10 - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll, loaded at 0x77120000 - 569344 bytes - 3d6dfa22 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:10
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll, loaded at 0x771b0000 - 1169920 bytes - 3d6dfa22 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:10
C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMCTL32.dll, loaded at 0x77340000 - 557056 bytes - 3d6dfa2a - file date is 8/29/2002 05:40:50
C:\WINDOWS\System32\midimap.dll, loaded at 0x77bd0000 - 17920 bytes - 3b7dfe0f - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSACM32.dll, loaded at 0x77be0000 - 67072 bytes - 3b7dfe0f - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x77c00000 - 16384 bytes - 3b7dfe0f - file date is 8/23/2001 15:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x77c10000 - 323072 bytes - 3d6dfa27 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:08
C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x77c70000 - 250368 bytes - 3d6dfa27 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:40:56
C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll, loaded at 0x77d40000 - 560128 bytes - 3d6dfa28 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x77dd0000 - 558080 bytes - 3d6dfa28 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:40:48
C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll, loaded at 0x77e60000 - 930304 bytes - 3d6dfa28 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:00
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x77f50000 - 668672 bytes - 3d6dfa28 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:40:42
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x78000000 - 530432 bytes - 3d6dfa29 - file date is 8/29/2002 05:41:10
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upgrade your drivers to version 4.4 (not 4.5 or 4.6)
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Are you even supposed to install the 1.2 patch? I've always ran the 1.0 version from the Underdogs site without any problems.
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Originally posted by darkchrono4
Are you even supposed to install the 1.2 patch? I've always ran the 1.0 version from the Underdogs site without any problems.
The 1.2 version patched a few things in root.vp too so it's a good idea.
Nazgul9 : Have you only installed 3.6 or have you installed the .vp files as well? (If you used the installer rather than doing things manually you probably did). In that case try removing any file in your FS2 folder that isn't on this list (Don't worry if you're missing some on that list).
# root_fs2.vp
# sparky_fs2.vp
# sparky_hi_fs2.vp
# stu_fs2.vp
# tango1_fs2.vp
# tango2_fs2.vp
# tango3_fs2.vp
# tangoA_fs2.vp
# tangoB_fs2.vp
# smarty_fs2.vp
# warble_fs2.vp
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Originally posted by Bobboau
upgrade your drivers to version 4.4 (not 4.5 or 4.6)
Why not 4.5 or 4.6?
Although somehow i think that's not the problem.
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@karajorma:
Every file i have in my FS2 game folder is on your list (tangoA and tangoB are missing).
Yes, i've used the installer. Btw, i installed the FS2 Open in a different folder, not in the FS2 game folder. I hope that's allowed.
Any other suggestions? :(
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hmmmmm........ there is something that need to be done but what? ahhhhh that it I got it.........
:welcome:
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Thanks for that friendly reception, Falcon. I'm pleased to be here with all of you space sim lovers. :)
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Well, can we get him these files, Kara? Or is that bad, I don't want HLP to get ran over again.
Because I'll upload them for him :)
:welcome:
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Sorry but... what are you talking about, jdjtcagle? :nervous:
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I can upload up tango A and tango B for you, but I don't know if "I can"
EDIT: I could name them Derelict_core or something and when he gets done I can take them down ;7
EDIT2: What is Tango A and Tango B, Kara? :confused:
EDIT3: Nazgul9, have you tried reinstalling Fs2 and then installing the 3.6?
That's how mine got to working right.
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Guys, there's a very important clue you missed.
He installed FS2_Open in a different folder from FS2.
There's the problem, right there. Nazgul9, FS2 and FS2_Open look for the files they need in their directory and subdirectories under it (data for both, and a specififed command line option in FS2_Open can point it somewhere else). FS2_Open needs to be in the same folder as FS2 retail version.
EDIT: Additional Material
The reason you see an opening screen is that it's in the media .vp files that were installed where you put FS2_Open. It can find that file. But the game files are all in the FS2 folder. Can't use them because it can't find them.
Take their advice on the drivers, as that is not my area of expertise in any way, shape, or form.
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there are some problems with 4.5 and 4.6 that brake shinemapping
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
EDIT2: What is Tango A and Tango B, Kara? :confused:
They are installed by the HOTU download. Anyone using FS2 Retail won't have them or miss them but since I don't want anyone to mistakenly delete them thinking they are useless I always include them in any list of vp files that are supposed/allowed to be in your FS2 folder.
Originally posted by Moonsword
Guys, there's a very important clue you missed.
He installed FS2_Open in a different folder from FS2.
There's the problem, right there. Nazgul9, FS2 and FS2_Open look for the files they need in their directory and subdirectories under it (data for both, and a specififed command line option in FS2_Open can point it somewhere else). FS2_Open needs to be in the same folder as FS2 retail version.
Yep. Huge alarm bells started ringing in my head as soon as I read that line. :)
Nazgul. Simply copy everying in the directory you installed FS2_open into the Freespace2 folder and everything will be okay with the world again.
If you're worried about making Retail FS2 unplayable don't worry. Moving the media.vp (I can't remember the filename it has now but it's the big VP FS2_Open installed) into a subfolder or out of the Freespace2 folder will allow you to go back to Standard FS2.
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like you'd want to :lol:
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Strangely some people do. I think it's just cause they are worried that if FS2_Open doesn't work for them they want a fall back position. Can't say I blame them for wanting one but yeah if FS2_Open works for you there is no reason to go back to using FS2.
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Originally posted by Bobboau
there are some problems with 4.5 and 4.6 that brake shinemapping
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Some? 4.5 and 4.6 break shinemapping, period.
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Welcome to HLP, nazgul9. :)
:welcome:
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I've reinstalled tha FS2_Open package into the FS2 game folder and it seems to work now! Thanks guys for your help! :)
In the next version of the installer they would do good to make it clear that you have to install it there.
As for not wanting to go back, hmm..., to tell you the truth, i'm a bit disappointed of FS2_Open. There are not that many visual improvements as i have thought there would be (Or am i blind?! Could you point out some for me?), plus the game seems to run slower now (longer loading times, occasional stutterings).
Btw, what exactly are shinemaps? I've already read something about them in another thread but am yet unsure of what they do, what visual impact they have. Are they included in the FS2_Open 3.6 package or do i need to download them separately? Also i heard that not all vessels yet got shinemaps, is that true? I wouldn't want to have half the ships with shiny new shinemaps and the other half without them, dull looking.
Again, thank you for participating and for the warm receptions! :)
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Have you turned on all the right options and installed the media.vp?
On the features tab of the launcher the greyed out box should say something like this
F:\Games\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_3_6.exe -spec -glow -jpgtga -pcx32
If you're missing any of these options it's cause you haven't turned on the extra features. Enable -glowmaps, specular and jpg textures and you'll soon see one hell of a difference.
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The specmaps are maps that determine how bright, and what colour the reflections are. If they have an alpha channel, that'll determine the envirment map. If there is no alpha channel, the normal specmaps will be used, and if there are no specmaps, the normal map will be loaded as spec.
A ship without spec will look like it is either plastic or molded from glass or something, a ship with it will look like it's metal. All ships have specmaps, but not all have specmaps with alpha. Envirment mapping might look a bit odd, but it is only available in Bob builds anyway, so it won't appear in 3.6. They are included in the installer, in MV-shine.vp (IIRC, I am not all that up-to-date myself).
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Oh, as for the stutterings, could you please copy and paste your commandline in here? Also, what files are in your main folder (the one with teh FS open exe)? Are you using D3D or OGL? What resolution? Are the stutters at any specific point?
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I've checked everything - except the low memory planet textures - when i was installing.
My command line looks like this: E:\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_3_6.exe -spec -glow -pcx32 -jpgtga -d3dmipmap -cell -phreak -ship_choice_3d -2d_poof -snd_preload
At the moment i'm using D3D, with a resolution of 1024x768 in 32bit (standart). I have the following new vp files in my install folder: mv_core_a.vp, mv_effects.vp, mv_hieffects.vp, mv_hiplanets.vp, mv_models.vp, mv_speffects.vp, mv_textures.vp (@kasperl: no mv_shine.vp - am i missing something?)
I guess i'm blind then, lol. I haven't played FreeSpace2 much prior to the install of the open source add-ons though (just one or two training missions), so maybe that's why i'm not seeing that much difference as i wasn't used to the old version. That's also the reason why i can't tell if the stutterings are at any specific points but i think they are random (i even got one in the options menu).
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mv_shine was upgraded to mv_textures shortly after the release of 3.6, so you should be fine.
You should definitely be seeing a difference with -cell, as that is not so much a graphical improvement as it is a difference in the way things appear. Ships should look more like they were lifted out of a comic book with it enabled.
Do you have a screenshot handy?
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-cell needs extra art, it's meant to make things look cartoony. Are you sure you want that effect?
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Do you mean cell shading, like in the game XIII? Hmm..., it looks nothing like that. It looks about the same with or without -cell. Well, it seems that it's still not working correctly. :(
Here's a pic of how it looks on my comp with all visual enhancements enabled:
(http://foto.volja.net/user_galleries/borisvrcko/razlicno/norm_sf2_1.jpg)
As you can see, nothing spectacular (no metallic shining, lo-res textures...). :(
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And here's a pic with everything off:
(http://foto.volja.net/user_galleries/borisvrcko/razlicno/norm_sf2_2.jpg)
Hmm..., maybe the nebula is a bit more detailed on the previous pic, and what's coming out of the "exhaust pipe" is white instead of blueish, strange... Where are the supposed hi-res textures i ask myself. :(
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You do appear to be lacking both specular and glowmaps.
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What do glowmaps and specular do?
Are the textures ok, since they stay the same?
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Glowmaps make the lights on the ships really seem to light up. Like the big red light on the Fenris will appear fully red even in darkness.
Specular maps add the shine to ships that you see when you shine a bright light on semi-polished metal.
Do you have "Use Large Textures" checked?
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Turn of cell, it might be biting your spec and glow.
Glow creates lights, spec makes things shine.
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Cell is off, large textures on.
Btw, OpenGL doesn't work for me, doesn't even start loading. :blah:
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Kara, does the Myrm have glowmaps?
Nazgul: can you give us a screenie of a capship at close range?"
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Don't know why you're asking me kas but only the very tip of those two spikes at the back are glowmapped. You probably won't see them unless the ship is disabled though.
I'd suggest a pic of the fenris/leviathan as it would kill two birds with one stone since the model for that ship has been upgraded too.
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I still have a problem with the text being underlined, even when I turn on "Fix Text Distortion"
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Kara: I asked because I cannot check myself, know you probably would know, and I needed to know to see if it is just spec breaking.
And a picture of a Leviathan would be very nice.
Have you tried upgrading Catalyst to 4.4?
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whoops.