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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => FS2 Open Coding - The Source Code Project (SCP) => Topic started by: WhackaWhackaWoo on July 11, 2004, 06:09:04 pm
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I'm not one to get angry easily, but THIS IS ********!!! :mad: My fighter is a white square. The enemy is a white square. The hud is comprised of different-colored rectangles. I thought I was playing freespace, not friggin' pong! :mad: It's hard enough just getting to combat mode. The menu screens are just a huge white canvas with a few rectangles where the buttons are. And the hanger screen at the beginning of the game? It's completely white. Luckily I knew that to start playing I had to click somewhere in the middle of the screen. Then the briefing pops up. The text appears nicely... except for the fact that IT'S A BUCH OF GREEN SQUARES!!! :mad:
EDITed for language // Goober5000
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1) What executable are you running?
2) What's your command line?
3) What's your video mode?
4) What are your computer stats?
The SCP guys need information to help you out.
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I ran the 3_6, 3_6_debug, and r. Command line ranged from nothing to several combinations of all the graphics options. Video was directx. Computer is running windows 98se on a dell dimension L800cxe. And freespace 2 worked fine before I tried freespace open, so my computer can handle it.
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One, FS2_Open has higher requirements than FS2-Retail. Just b/c the latter runs doesn't mean the former will.
Second, what resolution were you running in?
Three: What's your video card, how fast is your processor, how much memory do you have, and what OS are you running?
:rolleyes: That's what people mean when they ask for the computer stats. A system model number doesn't mean anything to anyone who doesn't have that kind of system. The only peice of that statement that meant anything to most of us was the part about Win98.
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You sir, have a Voodoo card. Or at least something similar :D
This reminds me of my 'testing' openGL with my Voodoo3 3000 :lol:
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Yeah, 'official' support for Voodoo cards has been dropped.
You did try the different video drivers (OpenGL and D3D) right? And did you try the -nohtl flag?
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BTW, WhackaWhackaWoo:
:welcome:
and cool out, you'll live longer.
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sounds like ANIs arn't getted loaded. yeah what is your video card?
and my but aren't we exciteable, it's not like you've lost anything (that I'm aware of).
"I'm not one to get angry easily" I beg to differ.
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I gave the model number because you can find out everything about any model on the dell website. But...
It came with a dell 810 chipset (built in video card)
800 mhz celeron proccessor
128 megs of ram
Like I said, you can get it all just by throwing the model name into dell.com. That's why I didn't give you all the specs before.
I don't think it's the ANI's, because even the ships are just white. It's pretty much everything graphical. I'm assuming there's a hidden switch somewhere to turn the textures on.
And I don't get angrily easy, it's just that I've been having lots of trouble trying to get this thing to work, and I've been struggling with it all day.
And yes, I tried Direct, OpenGL, AND Software
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Your Ram is too low, your video card is a POS - answer found
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How would that effect even just the hanger screen? Or even just the profile selection screen?
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Say, what version of DirectX do you have?
And if you've got an AGP slot you should really consider upgrading, I doubt you could really run the SCP with a chipset-videocard.
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RAM
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I put the model number into Google and all I could find was the MB had a max ram of 512, this tells me that the integrated chipset is probly of the GF2 era, I'd say the biggest thing that you should do (without going out and buying anything) if you havn't done so already is update your video drivers
do ANY textures show up ANYWARE?
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Even with a TNT2 and 128 MB SDRam, I was able to at least have glowmaps working.
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Intergrated video is ****.....I have an intel 830M chipset, it's the only thing keeping me from playing FSO
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WhackaWhackaWoo, something you'll learn eventually is that most of us are very touchy about FSO and relatively lazy. We're usually willing to help, but you came in guns blazing and then wanted us to go look something up when you could've provided it. That's not nice.
I looked up the Dimension L800cxe at Dell's site and found nothing, not suprising given the apparent age of the system. I did manage to find something on Google however. You do not have an AGP slot of any version(1x,2x,4x) this limits you to PCI solutions, which while not anywhere near as good as the equivalent AGP versions due to bandwidth limitations as not as bad as Frame Junkies that buy bleeding edge tech and then overclock to squeeze every last frame they can out of it would admit. As luck would have it, the current Nvidia offerings are quite potent, the Geforce FX 5200 is quite powerful, comes with several memory configurations and can be had from reputable manufacturers for less the $100 USD.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=686481&Sku=C460-8002&CatId=319
This and some RAM will most likely fix your problems, though you would be better off in the long run just building a new comp. Get exactly what you want and pay less than if you bought it through Dell and possibly learn a few things along the way.
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don't buy a geforece MX, it's drivers are ****.
and honestly I'd tell you to go with a Radeon, though I don't know if they have PCI cards or not.
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Bob, you misunderstood my recomendation. I recomended the Chaintech Geforce FX 5200 w/128mb of Video Ram. This is the best PCI video card available and supports full DX9 games. The specs say it can push 1 Billlion Texels, which by Frame Junkie standards is the ass end of unusable, but it highly playable at a reasonable resolution like 1024x768.
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Lib check you PMs :)
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Originally posted by Liberator
Bob, you misunderstood my recomendation. I recomended the Chaintech Geforce FX 5200 w/128mb of Video Ram. This is the best PCI video card available and supports full DX9 games. The specs say it can push 1 Billlion Texels, which by Frame Junkie standards is the ass end of unusable, but it highly playable at a reasonable resolution like 1024x768.
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it does support DirectX9... I wonder, however, if you will be able to play any DirectX9 games... without any details in 640*480 resolution.
In fact, the performance of the card can be compared to a GPU based on Geforce 3 Ti200. Due to PCI slot the performance of the card should be even lower.
Lastly, the best choice is,as Bob already said, currently a Radeon GPU, at best with a X800 chip. In this case, a new comp is in order.
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I didn't say that it was the best, I said it was the best PCI available.
Read some of the reviews for crying out loud.
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/VGA/Inno3D_FX5200/
http://tech-report.com/reviews/2003q2/geforcefx-5200/index.x?pg=23
http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/nvidia/nv34/index.php?p=17
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/nvidia-nv34/index03.htm
It's not meant to compete with the likes of the 6800 or the X800. It is a BUDGET card.
I only told him it is the best possible upgrade for his existing system and ALSO reccomended a new system instead.
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I was just warning him, in case he didn't follow you advice to the letter
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WhackaWhackaWoo, your attitude is totally inappropriate. The coders are all doing this for free, and the least you could do is show a little respect. If you're polite and provide us with the information we need, we're more than happy to help. You won't get anything by yelling and swearing like you own the place. Clean up your act or I'll close the thread.
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Yeah, 'official' support for Voodoo cards has been dropped.
You did try the different video drivers (OpenGL and D3D) right? And did you try the -nohtl flag?
WMCoolmon, my 'test' took place about a year before we dropped Voodoo support officialy. I dont think it *ever* worked on them ;)
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stupid question would this flag help anyways -nohtl if not having htl card or just crappy integrated i810-i830 chip or V3-V5 card
and for bob radeon has PCI cards 9200se if i remember maybe even better now.
i am gettin huge temptation to test this with V3 3k&V5 5.5k and some other cards like Matrox g450+ DH
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-nohtl will be worse in all situations.
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No, not quite all of them. I know at least one system where that was the only way to get FS2 builds beyond 3.5.5 to run past the first time the computer even thought about firing a beam weapon.
It wasn't exactly the most stable of situations, though, and it sure as hell didn't work with your recent builds...
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Would -nohtl be worse in a situation where the person doesn't have hardware T&L support in his hardware?
This actually sounds a lot like what happened to a friend of mine trying to play an HT&L game with an old TNT2 videocard. The game ran, except no textures showed and everything looked very wierd. I don't remember if the menu was like that as well, but it could have been. It was fixed by getting him a new Radeon card.