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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on July 15, 2004, 06:19:56 pm
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104 users! it'll probably go up in the next few minutes too!
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WOW!
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$5 says they all dislike Smart too.
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Yeah, just please stop opening new threads about the same subject, we really don't need all of them. nice to see the overwhelming reply, though.
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maybe, but he's still the reason we have a new record. You gotta give him kudos for that at least :)
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Amazing results on the user numbers - it shows people really are still interested. :)
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113 now...
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Originally posted by Styxx
Yeah, just please stop opening new threads about the same subject, we really don't need all of them. nice to see the overwhelming reply, though.
You like reading through 6 posts/30 sec?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
You like reading through 6 posts/30 sec?
No, hence the closures. ;)
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cool stuff
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Originally posted by Styxx
No, hence the closures. ;)
In one thread. :p
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
In one thread. :p
They were making my forum look dirty. :p
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w00t, I guess.
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[q]They were making my forum look dirty. [/q]
OO er missus.
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Most users ever online was 129 on 07-16-2004 at 11:52 AM
Holy damn ****:eek2:
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Styxx, it's the first really significant news the forum's had in years, dude. It's gonna be like this for a while.
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*wonder's why this isn't a news item
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'Cos they're terrified it'll spark a whole new series of threads and flames probably. With just cause.
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And I WASN'T online then!
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Great time to be alive, huh? This is the biggest thing since the source was released, for sure.
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Not as glorious, tho.
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We must wait and see how this turns out. I for one am going to see what I can do about establishing personal contact with Derek and perhaps some of the AVault admins.
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amazing, 70 guests are browsing the forum, okay most of them are that one particular topic :rolleyes: :p at the moment, but at least they're browsing...
can't say it didn't generate traffic
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The forums got slow as all hell a minute ago though.
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Most users ever online was 136 on 07-16-2004 at 03:07 PM.
...it sure is quite a day at HLP.
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I wonder where all of these Guests are coming from? :confused: :cool:
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Originally posted by kv1at3485
I wonder where all of these Guests are coming from? :confused: :cool:
Blues News & various other websites.
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Well this tops it :eek:
(http://home.austarnet.com.au/sigma957/online.jpg)
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EDIT: Nevermind.
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I'm so staying awake tonight. Styxx did it last night, now it's my shift. ;)
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LOL well its 12.25 am Saturday, here atm :D I really should go to bed after being awake for 20 hrs ;)
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and you know what really sucks?
Tomorrow I'm leaving for Italy for 2 weeks so I'll miss all the fun :(
bloody typical! :lol:
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Originally posted by Sigma957
LOL well its 12.25 am Saturday, here atm :D I really should go to bed after being awake for 20 hrs ;)
I'll see your 12:25am and raise you a 2:30am. I've been awake since 5:30am, so that puts me at 21 hours... hooray :D
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Hooray!
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Wow, world time is a scary thing. It's not even 6pm on Friday here!
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It's 12:45 here. :p
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Now it is 2.12 am saturday :lol:
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19:00, I'll see about staying up. Doubt I will unless Smart get's back here.
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150 active users at this moment
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153. I see Smart is online, too. But he said over at AV he wouldn't post, so I guess he must be taking stock of just what's going on over here.
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wow. we keep climbing
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Just remarkable. The Currently Active Users list is a funny place to watch. :)
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the "Who's online?"
yeah :p
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well at the rate these users and posts come this just shows how many ppl want the Freespace franchise saved from the hands of Derek Smart.
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Or at least how many people want to know all the facts to try and piece together what is the best course of action. I know that's the way I'm thinking.
In related news, we just officially doubled our previous most users online. :)
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Wow.
Well I have a party and some beer waiting on me, so try not to get any wars going while I'm gone. I would not be in teh fit state to fight :p
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Snipes says we hit 160
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The vBulletin disagrees, apparently. ;)
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i'm going to spread the word around try to cook up some support.
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Sounds good, chris. It would be greatly appreciated if you perhaps posted a link to the place where you were trying to rally people together - that way perhaps I or another admin could go in there too and speak on everyone's behalf. :nod:
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I am a relative "Newbie" but i'm sooooooooooooooooo glad we r finally getting some FS3 news
By the way its 07:29pm here in england, i mean the GTVA Colossus II
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:D
Glad to see someone is enjoying this. ;)
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Well I was in bar with my friends just did come back 1 1/2 hour ago(I did drink only few beer)
Then i did find myself again here damn there lot's activity
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here are links to where this is mentioned
Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=69278&start=175)
BlueNews (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=50097)
Ve3D (http://ve3dboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=16425097)
Relic Forums (http://forums.relicnews.com/archive/index.php/t-29151)
WC CIC Forums (http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?t=9722)
TFN Forums (http://boards.theforce.net/Games:_Board_and_Videogames/b10005/16433192/?0)
hope this helps to spread the word
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The CIC? W00t, they're gonna be so happy.
"checks forum"
Yeah, they are.
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Anyone read the letter at WC CIC? Misguided, yet touching. :(
Originally posted by Bandit Loaf at WC CIC
Dear Freespace Jerks,
I know we've had our differences. Like all the times we've made fun of the big capships guy, or the times we've called your game a soulless Prophecy ripoff. Or even the times we photographed ourselves ripping apart copies of Freespace 2 with our bare teeth... but I'm not here to make fun of Freespace today.
Sure, your game killed any interest in space sims and in so doing killed a lot of viable Wing Commander products. We'll never play Strike Team or Shadow Force or Privateer Online, partially because of Freespace. I really hate you for that; I probably always will.
And sure, in my heart of hearts I've wanted to see you suffer the same fate in some fashion. I've thought and dreamed about that for a long time. Heck, when the news about Fallout 3 came out I hoped someone would buy the Descent license and start churning out generic budget clones.
So let me say this - never, ever, in my most sadistic revenge fantasies could I have ever wished a fate such as Dr. Derek Smart upon you. As a key figure in the varied fan conflicts and as an accepted representative of the Wing Commander community as a whole let me say: I am truly, truly sorry for what has happened.
The Wing Commander community stands with you at this dark hour.
Long Live the Confederation,
Ben "Bandit" Lesnick
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Yes, touching
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I still don't understand where that whole "Freespace killed the Space sim genre" crap came from. But yes, if even they can put their differences aside, it is indeed touching.
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Very. Yet those comments that we posted earlier when we all started to go nuts didn't help our cause. Read down, and you'll see they weren't unnoticed.
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Well I'm sure they'd go ape**** too if the rights to the next WC game went to Smart...
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When the WC guys decide they were feuding with the Freespace fans?
I'd be kinda amused that this is total news to me, seeing how long I was around the FS community, but there's too many highly amusing things going on these days and I don't want to overload.
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Dude, they've hated us since the Emancipation Proclamation.
Nobody here seems to know exactly why though...
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That was one of the funniest things I've ever read. But good to know where they stand.
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Well, at least they're...uh...kinda with us.
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But for how long though
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I didn't know there was so much friction there, sad really :(
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
I didn't know there was so much friction there, sad really :(
As a regular CIC poster, I can say with absolute certainty that the average WC Forumer thinks less about Freespace then a fish thinks about space probes.
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Originally posted by chris_2xtreme
here are links to where this is mentioned
Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=69278&start=175)
BlueNews (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=50097)
Ve3D (http://ve3dboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=16425097)
Relic Forums (http://forums.relicnews.com/archive/index.php/t-29151)
WC CIC Forums (http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?t=9722)
TFN Forums (http://boards.theforce.net/Games:_Board_and_Videogames/b10005/16433192/?0)
hope this helps to spread the word
Thanks, chris. If you don't mind, I'll use this list later in a news post on the front page. :nod:
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We still have 75 users online :p The 'advertising' was... effective...:p
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It really is nuts. We had even more posts today than yesterday, which I didn't even think was possible. :p
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Dude, they've hated us since the Emancipation Proclamation.
Nobody here seems to know exactly why though...
According to them, Freespace didn't sell well ( which is true ), and that led editors to think that the genre was dead, so, by extention, it prevented any WC sequels ( I'm astonished the FPS genre is still alive with all the failures it suffered from, if you follow that... kindda flawed - to stay polite - logic :p).
Then, they claim FS2 is a complete clone of Prophecy. Considering FS2 is about exactly FS1, with prettier graphics, should we have the same mindset as them, we could claim Prophecy is a FS1 rip-off.
The real fact is that they never could stand WC:P low ratings compared to FS2 :p. Well, they started that ridiculous "war" on their own and, for the most part, it's a one sided grudge, many people here like WC as well ( and don't give a damn about the CIC people, when they even know the CIC ), the problem is that the majority of the active CIC community are what you call real fanboys ( that term has taken such an insulting tone lately :p ), they dress up like federation pilots, and have fun detroying boxes from whatever spacesim that is not WC ( coz yeah, whatever they say, of course, they hate every space sim as long as it's not WC ), so they're kind of fanatics. And you know how fanatics are? ( just check HLP right now for a reality check :doubt: )
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good thing about that Penny-arcade thread was i did find this from PA forums http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=69399&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
end of OT
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Originally posted by Nico
According to them, Freespace didn't sell well ( which is true ), and that led editors to think that the genre was dead, so, by extention, it prevented any WC sequels ( I'm astonished the FPS genre is still alive with all the failures it suffered from, if you follow that... kindda flawed - to stay polite - logic :p).
I'm assuming you mean "publishers" rather than editors - in that case, yes, Freespace 2's failure did kill several rather highly anticipated (and I'm understating here) projects, including Privateer Online. My understanding here is that the Privateer Online people saw FS2 as being the vanguard of the new wave of space sims (even referencing it as their primary competition in their pitch), so you can understand the frustration in the community when FS2 flopped at the market and those project ended up getting the ax.
Then, they claim FS2 is a complete clone of Prophecy. Considering FS2 is about exactly FS1, with prettier graphics, should we have the same mindset as them, we could claim Prophecy is a FS1 rip-off.
Yes, because Prophecy ripped off a game which came out after Prophecy was released! Wait, no.
And I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim FS2 is a '"complete clone" of Prophecy - and hardly anyone say the same about Freespace.
The real fact is that they never could stand WC:P low ratings compared to FS2 :p.
I don't know what sector you live in, but over here Prophecy and FS were about equally well received.
the problem is that the majority of the active CIC community are what you call real fanboys ( that term has taken such an insulting tone lately :p ) they dress up like federation pilots,
Oh my God! They were dressed in costumes! At a costume convention! Clearly, this is a sign of the GREAT SATAN!!1111
(yeah, I know Dragon*Con isn't strictly a costume convention, but there's enough of them there for it to qualify.)
and have fun detroying boxes from whatever spacesim that is not WC ( coz yeah, whatever they say, of course, they hate every space sim as long as it's not WC )
Yeah, and the US Navy has the phrase "sink the army" in its anthem. Clearly America is on the VERGE OF CIVIL WAR!
so they're kind of fanatics. And you know how fanatics are? ( just check HLP right now for a reality check :doubt: ) [/B]
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Wait, if FS2 was a failure in the field os sells, what will become of FS3 if DS really fails to create a worthy successor?
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I don't know what sector you live in, but over here Prophecy and FS were about equally well received.
*COUGH*
Gameranking:
WC:P -> (Overall rank; 1009) (PC Rank; 322)
FS2 -> (Overall rank; 127) (PC rank; 23)
Even AVault agrees;
WC:P -> 2 1/2 stars out of 5
FS2; -> 4 1/2 stars out of 5
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Both of you, please read my thread at the top of Hard Light. You are both on the same side here, lay off each other for a while.
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
I'm assuming you mean "publishers" rather than editors - in that case, yes, Freespace 2's failure did kill several rather highly anticipated (and I'm understating here) projects, including Privateer Online. My understanding here is that EA bigwigs saw FS2 as being the vanguard of the new wave of space sims, so you can understand the frustration in the community when FS2 flopped at the market and those games ended up getting the ax.
Well, you can't blame the game for that, though - it lived up to it's billing - it was the best ever made.
Blame Interplay for poor marketing, or the fickle nature or the market, if you blame anyone. Although it's the market that's probably 90% to blame. Hell, maybe WC's reputation* as being effectively an interactive movie with sparese shooting bits hurt the genre too.
*certainly, that was my perception of how the series had went. and that was before I had even heard of Freespace.
I dunno, though - any feuding between communities of the same genre, after this many years, just seems to be a bit...petty. But then again, who expected logic on the internet? ;) :p
EDIT; Actually, I read that thread. It's only the admins who seem to be acting petty over it(the whole Derek smart situation), the vast majority of the normal forumites seem to be decent & understanding over why we're concerned.
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Both of you, please read my thread at the top of Hard Light. You are both on the same side here, lay off each other for a while.
I'm not here to start a flamewar, but I think these issues need to be addressed when they come up. I certainly wouldn't have picked now as the time, but it came up now, so now it is.
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
I'm not here to start a flamewar, but I think these issues need to be addressed when they come up. I certainly wouldn't have picked now as the time, but it came up now, so now it is.
Well, i think - after all this time - we (FS & WC) should be on the same side. Because both our favoured games franchises may well be up **** creek, unless one our the other releases a sequel that can somehow revitalise the market. Unfortunately the converse - and this is what I fear - a poor sequel could have the direct opposite effect.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Well, i think - after all this time - we (FS & WC) should be on the same side. Because both our favoured games franchises may well be up **** creek, unless one our the other releases a sequel that can somehow revitalise the market. Unfortunately the converse - and this is what I fear - a poor sequel could have the direct opposite effect.
What would be most ironic would be that we ending fighting Mr. Smart together, defeating him and then working together to somehow make a WC-FS2 crossover that kicked ass and was declared the next bit in the WC/FS series timeline. :lol:
Dangit......I AM going crazy. :nervous:
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*COUGH*
Gameranking:
WC:P -> (Overall rank; 1009) (PC Rank; 322)
FS2 -> (Overall rank; 127) (PC rank; 23)
Even AVault agrees;
WC:P -> 2 1/2 stars out of 5
FS2; -> 4 1/2 stars out of 5
Well, if you want to track down internet ratings, I'm more than happy to oblidge you here.
Mobygames
Prophecy: 3.8 (out of 5)
Freespace: 3.9 (out of 5)
Gamespot:
Prophecy 8.6
Freespace 8.9
PC Gamer(US)
Prophecy: 88%
Freespace: 90%
Admitedly, Freespace is ranked slightly higher in each instance- but nobody I know is going to commit hara-kiri over a few decimal points.
To be perfectly honest, Prophecy really isn't my favorite of the series; there are plenty of other choices - Vengence of the Kilrathi, The Price of Freedom, Privateer, as well as a series of novelizations, an animated series, and a full-fledged movie, even if the latter wasn't exactly well-received. You need to understand Wing Commander is not simply a game; it is a full-fledged universe and a franchise. Could Freespace have evolved into that, given the chance? Perhaps; we'll probably never know.
In any case, I don't know about you, but I don't exactly see any reason for jealosy.
]I dunno, though - any feuding between communities of the same genre, after this many years, just seems to be a bit...petty. But then again, who expected logic on the internet? ;) :p
Internet maturity is an oxymoron.
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Originally posted by Singh
What would be most ironic would be that we ending fighting Mr. Smart together, defeating him and then working together to somehow make a WC-FS2 crossover that kicked ass and was declared the next bit in the WC/FS series timeline. :lol:
I have to give Mr. Mr. Mr. Dr. Smart the XXX this: I have never, ever seen a figure so universally despised in my internet travails (and that includes Hitler and Osama bin Laden).
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You just posted a rating from gamespot that's not correct;
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/freespace2/review.html
It's a 9.6, NOT 8.9
Also, PC gamer gives a 93% not 90%
Here's a list with review results (including PC gamer);
Site Profile GameSpot
9.4 out of 10
94.0%
Site Profile IGN
8.9 out of 10
89.0%
Site Profile Gamespy
10/10/1999
92 out of 100
92.0%
Site Profile Computer Gaming World
1/22/2000
4.5 out of 5
90.0%
Site Profile PC Gamer
93 out of 100
93.0%
Site Profile Avault
11/11/1999
4.5 out of 5
90.0%
Site Profile Game Rankings
97 out of 100
97.0%
Site Profile Game Revolution
A-
90.0%
Site Profile Gameguru Mania
4 out of 5
80.0%
Site Profile Eurogamer
7 out of 10
70.0%
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/188670.asp
Also, on that same site;
- Avg Ratio: 81% (WC:P)
- Avg Ratio: 90% (FS2)
9% is not a very small difference.
I'm sorry, but because you post wrong numbers i'm not really gonna trust anything you say. I don't like people give false info.
Just for the record; I'm not claiming that WC is a bad game, i like it :p I just don't overrate it.
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Originally posted by Setekh
Both of you, please read my thread at the top of Hard Light. You are both on the same side here, lay off each other for a while.
Sorry but no ( it has nothing to do with Smart anyway ).
Claiming that FS2 is the reason why space sim genre downed is way too much of a strecht. Saying that FS2 is a clone of WC:P ( oh, they don't say that? No need to read far, just check LOAF's post again. I've checked the CIC for years unlike what you might think, I'm not pulling facts out of my ass ) when FS1 went out before, is a joke. But that I don't care, it's an opinion, all games suffer from that kind of comparison.
The costum thing was a hint. I have nothing against people dressing however they want ( hell, I go to anime conventions, I sure know what cosplay is :rolleyes: ), but as I said, I check the CIC on a dayly ( yup ) basis, and if I believe what you, MacDob, and then what the CIC news show, DragonCon would be all year long. As I said, I don't give a damn, but on that regard, I'm NOT gonna accept being called a, I quote, "rabbid fanfoy" by such people.
For the ratings, I live in Europe, and I have internet too, and I've NEVER seen anywhere ( save for WC fansites of course... ) a place where WC:P wasn't compared defavorably to FS2.
As for that Navy anthem thing, I don't know, I don't understand, but I can't see how you can give me an excuse for that kind of behaviour w/o being ashamed. I'd be ****ing ashamed if a HLP dude started burning WC copies ( well, I'd hate him, coz I love Wing Commander too, mind you, I've even done a couple mods for Secret Ops, tho I never released them ), or even a game I don't like. Coz, for a start, it's wasted money.
I don't want to start a flamewar either, I let them do it alone, but when I read the cascade of critics from LOAF, how much he hates FS2 and all, and then, in the last line, claims on the behalf of all the WC community how much he feels for us, well, that kindda runs on my nerves, sorry.
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
You need to understand Wing Commander is not simply a game; it is a full-fledged universe and a franchise. Could Freespace have evolved into that, given the chance? Perhaps; we'll probably never know.
Doubt it, freespace is more of a collection of moments and unreachable characters, it doesn't have any really developed background like wing commander has, neither it has the same fanbase anyway.
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You just posted a rating from gamespot that's not correct;
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/freespace2/review.html
It's a 9.6, NOT 8.9
I'm sorry, but because you post wrong numbers i'm not really gonna trust anything you say. I don't like people give false info.
If you had read my original post more carefully, you would have seen that I was comparing the ORIGINAL Freespace to Prophecy, not Freespace 2 :p
And yes, I realize that your original post compared FS2 to Prophecy, but in my opinion, that 9% can be attributed mostly to the graphical improvements made, and partly to the fact that no other space sims of comparable stature had been released in that timeframe. In other words, a way of showing FS2 is a refined version of FS. Besides, if Freespace is so superior, why do magazines and books such as High Score! continue to mention Wing Commander? :p
The point still stands; the WC CIC does not suffer from some sort of inferiority complex; the vast majority care little about Freespace. If anything, I sometimes feel it's the opposite.
Claiming that FS2 is the reason why space sim genre downed is way too much of a strecht.
I don't think it's much of a stretch of all. Let me quote LOAF (yes, your great foe):
From an industry perspective, Freespace 2 was treated by EA (and Lucas, and presumably other companys) as 'the game to compete with'. Proposals for things like Privateer Online (etc.) were written entirely from the "this is better than Freespace 2 because..." perspective. The last two 'important' games to come out sold fairly well (not amazingly - but high six figure numbers), and the corporate types were watching FS2 to get a read on the next generation of space sims. FS2 also promised to do a lot of the things Prophecy didn't - specifically, the multiplayer stuff - so everyone looked to it for an indicator of how much WCP's sales were hurt by lack of multiplayer.
...and then it sold around 20,000 copies. That's *nothing* for large companies like EA and Lucas (both of whom immediately killed their big space sim games). (Yes, StarLancer and Tachyon came out soon after and had similarly low numbrs... but Freespace 2 was the first, and it was the one everyone had been treating as the game to beat...)
(for the record, my understanding here is that FS2 later sold around from 40,000 to 80,000 copies - which is relatively better, but it's still a pittance compared to Sims 2: Big Pimpin')
As for that Navy anthem thing, I don't know, I don't understand, but I can't see how you can give me an excuse for that kind of behaviour w/o being ashamed. I'd be ****ing ashamed if a HLP dude started burning WC copies ( well, I'd hate him, coz I love Wing Commander too, mind you, I've even done a couple mods for Secret Ops, tho I never released them ), or even a game I don't like. Coz, for a start, it's wasted money.
They're just boxes; I don't see the reason to get riled up about it. It's not like you're somehow disfiguring its very soul, and besides, there are plenty of copies to go around. I'm not going to think very highly of someone who goes around burning WC discs, but I'm not going to declare some kind of freaking Jihad, either.
The costum thing was a hint. I have nothing against people dressing however they want ( hell, I go to anime conventions, I sure know what cosplay is ), but as I said, I check the CIC on a dayly ( yup ) basis, and if I believe what you, MacDob, and then what the CIC news show, DragonCon would be all year long.
A quick search of the CIC news disproves your assertion, as a grand total of 20 entries have mentioned Freespace over the past six months - the vast majority of them pertaining to Wing Commander Saga.
I don't want to start a flamewar either, I let them do it alone, but when I read the cascade of critics from LOAF, how much he hates FS2 and all, and then, in the last line, claims on the behalf of all the WC community how much he feels for us, well, that kindda runs on my nerves, sorry.
I know LOAF pretty well, and while I can say that his dislike for FS is genuine, I'm also pretty confident most of the jibes stem from his love of irony.
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FS2 and WC are too entirely different games, each with a different story. I enjoy FS2 more because too me its more fun to play and being part of a modding team its even more enjoyable seeing what I've done in game. :)
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I'm not going to get into a WC:P vs Freespace arguement because next to no one in the Freespace community cares.
I own both games and play them both. I happen to like Freespace better. If someone likes Wing Commander better so be it.
Slagging off Freespace now as many of the Wing Commander fans do isn't a good idea though. It just results in outsiders seeing the flaws in both games, damaging the reputation of both games.
Completely pointless really.
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Originally posted by karajorma
I'm not going to get into a WC:P vs Freespace arguement because next to no one in the Freespace community cares.
I own both games and play them both. I happen to like Freespace better. If someone likes Wing Commander better so be it.
Slagging off Freespace now as many of the Wing Commander fans do isn't a good idea though. It just results in outsiders seeing the flaws in both games, damaging the reputation of both games.
Completely pointless really.
Agreed:)
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Originally posted by karajorma
I'm not going to get into a WC:P vs Freespace arguement because next to no one in the Freespace community cares.
I own both games and play them both. I happen to like Freespace better. If someone likes Wing Commander better so be it.
Slagging off Freespace now as many of the Wing Commander fans do isn't a good idea though. It just results in outsiders seeing the flaws in both games, damaging the reputation of both games.
Completely pointless really.
yeah, guess you're right :p
*smacks Karajorma across the head*
You can't be right! :p
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Originally posted by karajorma
I'm not going to get into a WC:P vs Freespace arguement because next to no one in the Freespace community cares.
I own both games and play them both. I happen to like Freespace better. If someone likes Wing Commander better so be it.
Slagging off Freespace now as many of the Wing Commander fans do isn't a good idea though. It just results in outsiders seeing the flaws in both games, damaging the reputation of both games.
Completely pointless really.
Well put.
I never played WingCo, really - I never had the 'right' PC when the games were released. I did have Privateer (1) though.... that kicked arse, even though I never actually did anything beyond trade & buy new ships.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I never played WingCo, really - I never had the 'right' PC when the games were released. I did have Privateer (1) though.... that kicked arse, even though I never actually did anything beyond trade & buy new ships.
Dude, you could run Wing Commander II on a 486/66 ... it'd be sad if you couldn't run it now :p
Also, play Privateer: The Reckoning for Freelancer :p
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
Dude, you could run Wing Commander II on a 486/66 ... it'd be sad if you couldn't run it now
Some PCs are too fast to run old games. Especially if they are even playable on a 486.
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Moslo is your friend :)
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I want to post a response directly to Mr. Smart in that other thread......but im not sure if it is directly appropriate. It's not a flame, more like an open letter than anything else.
Ah what the heck.
*gets typing.
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
Dude, you could run Wing Commander II on a 486/66 ... it'd be sad if you couldn't run it now :p
Also, play Privateer: The Reckoning for Freelancer :p
Actually, I had bought WingCo 1&2 for my old 486-DX/2 66 (woot!). But they just wouldn't run atall when I tried.
Supossedly there's a WC mod for UT2004 in the works. Might take a peek at that one day.
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
Moslo is your friend :)
You could also give DosBox a try, but even I have difficulty using it.
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DosBox is quite nice, for the slower DOS apps.
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A quick search of the CIC news disproves your assertion, as a grand total of 20 entries have mentioned Freespace over the past six months - the vast majority of them pertaining to Wing Commander Saga.
What? I'm talking about the fact that there's at least a news every month with a guy parading in fed uniform, and you tell me I'm wrong coz there's 20 entries about FS2?
Oooh, I was so wasting my time, so, as for the rest: whatever you say, you're making no sense to me.
I'll just point out that I have nothing against LOAF ( did you read any critic from me directed at him? I just pointed out what he said, I don't consider him my great foe, but if you like to make everything sound big, whatever ), I just say I don't want his fake concerns.
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C'mon, guys, you're above this. I told you to stop, not because it's not a valid thing to discuss and not because the wrongs you are pointing at each other are untrue; but because now is a horrible time to discuss such a topic. It is helping no one, and it is damaging us all. Stop.
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Dude, there was a Freespace versus Wing Commander thread buried in here. Pure gold.
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ROFL Styxx. :lol: