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Title: How Much Would You Pay Buy The FS2 License
Post by: karajorma on July 15, 2004, 06:54:11 pm
This isn't a thread for insults or the like.

I'm asking you in all seriousness how much you'd be willing to donate via pay pal or some other similar agency so that we could buy the licence as a community. The money will be used to buy the FS3 (and maybe even FS1 & 2) licenses. What we'd do with those is the subject for another topic like this one (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,25171.0.html)

DO NOT post silly answers. I want the amount you would really put your hand in your pocket for.

only post ONCE.  The number of posts will be counted against the number of votes to make sure there is no irregularities.

I'm working dollars (roughly equivalent to the Euro about 1.5 dollars to a pound).

This thread is just to get an idea of what sort of level of cash we could raise. We'll be round with the collection tin later if it looks like it might be worth it. Obviously some people will pledge support but not give it while other people will join late and give a donation.

BTW when one of you admins post can you tell us if the possibility exists of giving anyone who does donate a special avatar to recognise their contribution?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Rictor on July 15, 2004, 06:59:58 pm
As I said, I'de give $50, probably more if it was within grasp.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Tiara on July 15, 2004, 07:12:07 pm
$50, more if in grasp like Rictor.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Knight Templar on July 15, 2004, 07:40:22 pm
If it's real, $30. I have no income, realistically, so that's a lot for me. :p
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: ChronoReverse on July 15, 2004, 07:43:25 pm
First I'd see who's trying to buy the rights.  Then I'd want to see how is being offered.

[editted since I don't like being inflammatory]
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: jdjtcagle on July 15, 2004, 07:45:44 pm
$20
since I don't have any job yet :(
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Thorn on July 15, 2004, 08:06:47 pm
As I've said. 50 with the possibility of more from two of my roomates.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Unknown Target on July 15, 2004, 08:52:31 pm
I'd be willing to donate 100+ hundred dollars.

EDIT: I could go up to two or three hundred dollars if the rest of the community was truly serious about this.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Cabbie on July 15, 2004, 09:04:09 pm
how much is the Freespace lisense anyway?

I would be willing to contribute 20 at least
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: jdjtcagle on July 15, 2004, 09:06:00 pm
I think we are UT :nod:
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Ghostavo on July 15, 2004, 09:13:28 pm
5 Euros... sorry :(
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Cabbie on July 15, 2004, 09:30:15 pm
im pretty ignorant about these things  but are the  FS 1,2,3 licences separate?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Unknown Target on July 15, 2004, 09:31:12 pm
No, it's all one liscence. Please keep posts to only what you're willing to donate.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: ChronoReverse on July 15, 2004, 09:32:19 pm
Incidentally.  Can't we simply tie up the Freespace3 license instead?

Remember Descent: Freespace ?

It was called that and not Freespace because another company has already taken that (some ram compression program or something).
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Unknown Target on July 15, 2004, 09:34:41 pm
Once again, if you make a post, please put what you're going to donate at least somewhere. I'm going to start a comments thread for this.

And I don't believe we can get a seperate liscence.

Please post all further non-monetary replies in the new thread I am creating.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 15, 2004, 11:44:29 pm
Ahem.

As currently unemployed, fifty to a hundred is about it. 'Course, unlike some here I'd probably actually do it, if nothing else just to tweak Smart and encourage you monkeys to get on with the new SCP releases. You won't get enough, naturally, but it's still worth the shot.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Free_The_WEED on July 15, 2004, 11:46:25 pm
About 100$, since I don't have too much money.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Bobboau on July 15, 2004, 11:50:41 pm
I donated $150 (in supplies that I went and got myself) to Iraqi school childeren the other day just for the hell of it, and becase it's something I beleive in, that was a spurr of the moment thing, as of now I'm going into "I want something very expinsive" mode, and not spending a dime, if this shows any sign of working, I'll skip next semester of school in order to get the nesisary funds.
oh, and $3,500 at least.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on July 16, 2004, 12:03:40 am
At least $15 from me. Being a student without a job sucks :(
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Night Hammer on July 16, 2004, 12:07:50 am
$50 no problem, Foot Locker pays well ;)
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: ViRGE on July 16, 2004, 01:44:08 am
I'd lay down $50, but only after a non-profit(or some similar organization) was created to make sure there was reliable control of the license, and there was an assurance that FS3 wouldn't be simply made by the community(they do good work, but FS3 deserves a dev team, nothing less). This really has less to do with FS3 however, and more about ensuring that FS1/2 were completely free, and everyone could have it if they wanted.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Goober5000 on July 16, 2004, 01:59:16 am
More than $50.  Precisely how much more depends on a variety of factors, but it could conceivably be a lot more.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: TilenN on July 16, 2004, 02:13:58 am
I'd give 500 dollars.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Gloriano on July 16, 2004, 02:18:34 am
200$ but if this is really going somewhere i would but some more
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: TheVirtu on July 16, 2004, 02:26:39 am
I'd donate 10 dollars.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: JR2000Z on July 16, 2004, 03:13:39 am
As of right now....$800.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 16, 2004, 03:21:59 am
Wow...that's an incredible amount of support for just for posts.

Come on silent majority...postpostpost! :D
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Bobboau on July 16, 2004, 03:26:38 am
well assumeing everyone meant what they said... we've got roughy $5,000
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Setekh on July 16, 2004, 03:29:07 am
I don't earn that much, but I could step up my wages by taking on a lot more hours. Probably close to $500 from me.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: JR2000Z on July 16, 2004, 03:42:28 am
Please don't forget to promote this thread around the internet.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Pez on July 16, 2004, 03:55:20 am
Atleast 50 $, could probably donate more.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Col. Fishguts on July 16, 2004, 04:35:25 am
I'd go for $100+
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: kasperl on July 16, 2004, 05:08:14 am
I said 20 in the poll, but that's what I'd donate just to keep things rolling. If we have a real shot at buying the rights, you can count on 100+, and while I have no hope on getting a job, I'll save up and hope my jeans last just another month extra.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: aldo_14 on July 16, 2004, 06:08:10 am
I put down $15.  

If I get a completion bonus for my work (when the contract ends), probably more.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Janos on July 16, 2004, 06:12:40 am
I'm piss-poor, but I would propably go in for roughly 50-60e.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Fineus on July 16, 2004, 06:12:42 am
£50, maybe double that if it'll help but I do have uni next year.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: vyper on July 16, 2004, 06:16:34 am
'bout 15 notes.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: an0n on July 16, 2004, 06:19:45 am
NOT DONATING

I have absolutely no money, but I'm big on ideas, so: With the 'Worlds Biggest and Longest Flame War' surrounding Smart, it might be an idea for someone to go post on various places asking for financial support.

There's gotta be tens of thousands of people who think Smart is a cock and alot of those would love an opportunity like this to piss him off.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Nico on July 16, 2004, 06:19:57 am
Now that I really think about it... 0
The FS license, it's what, the mythos? So a handful of names, a few, disorganized ship designs and a rather dull alien invasion story? Give me a break, Freespace is cool as a game, not as a universe I'd cram money in.
Rather make my own stuff.

edit: Bleh, posting that I'd donate nothing at the same time as An0n, I feel violated :p
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Bobboau on July 16, 2004, 06:23:21 am
it's the game all the content all the missions, everything.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: kv1at3485 on July 16, 2004, 06:29:47 am
At this moment, I have earmarked some $1000 U.S. for the cause.  (Note as I'm Canadian, you could say that the exchange will effect the actual amount at the end.)
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Nico on July 16, 2004, 06:32:47 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
it's the game all the content all the missions, everything.


So what?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: karajorma on July 16, 2004, 06:34:52 am
So we put the game on Gamespy for Free thereby doubling the user base for all new cool stuff by us.

Anyway discussions are really for the accompaning discussion threads.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Rohaq on July 16, 2004, 06:41:14 am
I'd throw about $50 your way, maybe, but only if I got a copy of the game when it was completed ;)
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: DaBrain on July 16, 2004, 06:59:37 am
I'm kinda broke right now. But 50$ should be possible.

Btw sorry for opening a new thread. My usual route through the forum is :
Modding
Source
General
Then the Mods
Then HLP and HLP News and Art ;)
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: TopAce on July 16, 2004, 07:01:48 am
$30 here.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Setekh on July 16, 2004, 07:38:51 am
Quote
Originally posted by DaBrain
I'm kinda broke right now. But 50$ should be possible.

Btw sorry for opening a new thread. My usual route through the forum is :
Modding
Source
General
Then the Mods
Then HLP and HLP News and Art ;)


Heheh, my route is to go through all of them simultaneously. ;)
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Fineus on July 16, 2004, 07:42:37 am
Quote
Originally posted by DaBrain
Btw sorry for opening a new thread.

No problem mate, as I said it was a good idea - but it's best to keep things all in one place for reference and such. No need to apologise :yes:
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: wizz33 on July 16, 2004, 08:26:38 am
at least E 50 maby a 100
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Unknown Target on July 16, 2004, 09:50:33 am
Got this from PA!

Quote

Toast
Jumpgate Ubertroll GM
 
 

 Posted: Today - 02:40 pm
»» Re: Freespace in dire need of help.  

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It'd make more sense to set up a parallel thread here, as it saves people having to move over and register. IMO. I'm good for at least £100.
 
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Tiara on July 16, 2004, 09:53:14 am
WOOHOO! Now we're getting somewhere!
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: jdarksun on July 16, 2004, 11:10:00 am
$50 + more if we're close.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Kie99 on July 16, 2004, 01:03:28 pm
$20
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Unknown Target on July 16, 2004, 02:37:40 pm
Admins, please stickie this. Sorry for the bump, I just want this thread at the top, thanks.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Tiara on July 16, 2004, 03:06:12 pm
Meh, the posts in this thread don't allow for a proper money count. :( the poll doesn't either with the whole 50 or more thing.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Starks on July 16, 2004, 03:06:51 pm
$50 - $300
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: an0n on July 16, 2004, 03:08:41 pm
Two things:

The point of the thread is to see if we're within striking distance of beating Smart.

What're we at now (lower estimate)?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Tiara on July 16, 2004, 03:14:32 pm
~7305 US dollars assuming everyone meant what they said.

I'd say about 6500 US dollars to be on the safe side. Not enough. :p
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: an0n on July 16, 2004, 03:16:04 pm
Has anyone asked Interplay to fnid out what kinda number we're aiming for?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Bobboau on July 16, 2004, 03:48:16 pm
probly in the $15,000 range
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Styxx on July 16, 2004, 04:15:30 pm
I think you forgot a zero there, Bob.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Mr. Vega on July 16, 2004, 04:20:01 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
~7305 US dollars assuming everyone meant what they said.

I'd say about 6500 US dollars to be on the safe side. Not enough. :p


With Lonestar's and Bobboau's possible contributions, we have 23,000.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: phreak on July 16, 2004, 04:37:28 pm
$200 or so
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: aldo_14 on July 16, 2004, 04:44:47 pm
Anyone know any venture capitalists?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: übermetroid on July 16, 2004, 05:24:41 pm
ask ebay or google to see if they want a part...  :D
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Hippo on July 16, 2004, 06:15:04 pm
Put me down for $50, but if we still need more, I'll send in every scrap of money I can find... BTW: does this have to be a paypal sortof thing? Or would I be able to physically mail someone the money? (I mailed GE a CD a few weeks ago, and it did fine)
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Fractux on July 16, 2004, 06:47:45 pm
I would be willing to pony up 150$ USD.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: übermetroid on July 16, 2004, 07:33:36 pm
with my baby comming along all I could get away with spending is 50$...  Any more and my wife would kill me.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Executor on July 16, 2004, 07:50:11 pm
Between $50 and $100
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: DaBrain on July 17, 2004, 06:17:07 am
Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Has anyone asked Interplay to fnid out what kinda number we're aiming for?


How can you contact them? Their site is down.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Anubis2k4 on July 17, 2004, 07:12:16 am
I'd donate aroud £30 or £40 at the least, dunno how much that works out in dollars.  Depending on how much money i have at the time i may donate £50.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: kasperl on July 17, 2004, 07:38:28 am
A pound is about 1.5 dollar, IIRC.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Tiara on July 17, 2004, 07:52:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
A pound is about 1.5 dollar, IIRC.

1 quid = 1.87320 USD

http://www.xe.com/ucc/ :D
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Black_Knight on July 17, 2004, 10:38:52 am
If it came down to it, I could seriously and honestly put down $10-50 thousand.  Yes, thousand - No joke.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Thorn on July 17, 2004, 10:43:09 am
And how many loans do you intend to take out?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Black_Knight on July 17, 2004, 10:46:46 am
Like I said, I seriously can do that, and would for this game.  I have far much more than that to spend.  I may lurk mostly and not post here much, but trust me when I do - I mean what I say.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: aldo_14 on July 17, 2004, 10:48:45 am
Remortgage?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Thorn on July 17, 2004, 10:50:34 am
Quote
Originally posted by Black_Knight
Like I said, I seriously can do that, and would for this game.  I have far much more than that to spend.  I may lurk mostly and not post here much, but trust me when I do - I mean what I say.


No offense, but I'll believe that when I see it.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Black_Knight on July 17, 2004, 11:44:23 am
Fine, don't believe me - maybe Derek Smart will believe it.  :P  I stand by my word...
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: jdjtcagle on July 17, 2004, 11:46:41 am
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but where would we send our money?
I'm ready...

Oh and only legit answers please :p
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Executor on July 17, 2004, 11:51:20 am
Quote
Originally posted by Black_Knight
Fine, don't believe me - maybe Derek Smart will believe it.  :P  I stand by my word...

Scan a bank statement showing you have a million bucks in your account and post the picture.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: karajorma on July 17, 2004, 01:00:26 pm
Quote
Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but where would we send our money?
I'm ready...

Oh and only legit answers please :p


We're discussing where and how the fund would be set up elsewhere on the forum. We'll have something in place soon if it looks like we could raise enough money.

The problem is making it look like a serious attempt to raise the cash. We don't want to scare foreigners to these forums into thinking that this might be a con of some sort.

Then again lots of people gave money to giveboobs.com with much less assurance.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 17, 2004, 01:18:24 pm
Yeah, the problem being how people are more interested in talking about how they'd give a million bajillion squintillion dollars than doing anything productive to make that a remote possibility.

Two days have past, and ****-all has happened on the rather important steps of setting that up. Partly, I guess that's my fault as I didn't account for how bombed out I'd be after going to work yesterday, and didn't have time to try and fill out the forms. But honestly, I'm the only one who even took the trouble to try, and that right there spells out a pretty serious problem for getting the project off the floor.

If I had any say in the matter, I'd lock/delete any hypothetical discussion on the issue until people knuckle down and get to doing something tangible about it. Like, say, setting up that ****ing account so people can try and give all this money. People aren't gonna stay interested forever, you know, and Smart isn't gonna sit back and wait months for everyone to get their act together and start this thing up. It's all happening right now, and basically if the mechanism for donations isn't up by the end of this weekend you're never going to have a snowflake's chance in Hell of going anywhere, and all this drivel about donated funds will just be more spam. You're not 'proving' anything by claiming to be able to give away some absurd (or miniscule) sum. Talk is the cheapest thing on the Internet, and right now it's so cheap here it's a negative value.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: karajorma on July 17, 2004, 01:23:48 pm
The idea of the thread was to get an idea of whether or not it was worth setting up a fund in the first place.

As you can see from the fact that most people said over $50 I was somewhat surprised by the amount people were willing to say they'd give.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Tiara on July 17, 2004, 01:39:41 pm
Put TCO up for another 50-100 bucks :D
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 17, 2004, 01:40:33 pm
I am, to a certain extent, too, but like I said talk is cheap. While it's not a reflection on anyone in particular's personality here, I think it's safe to run with the assumption that there's a certain inherent flake factor and roughly half the people posting in any of these threads (on HLP and off) are gonna suddenly realize at truth time that it's a lot easier to claim you're gonna give $50 than actually do it. It's also safe to assume there's lots of good people with spare cash who aren't registered here.

That said, yeah, it's been demonstrated that there's some support. That's nice. This discussion has served its purpose, though, and it's time everyone's energies got focussed on making it happen.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Inquisitor on July 17, 2004, 01:47:39 pm
Ok, serious questions here folks: How will this money be managed?

you gotta think this thru, it cannot be a knee jerk reaction to a percieved falling sky.

How do you do this right? The short answer is this group probably doesn't. Too much anger, too little experience.

Take a step back, THINK about it for a day. This "situation" is what, less than 48 hours old?
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 17, 2004, 01:48:16 pm
$75 USD at the end of the summer if this is indeed gonna happen.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: Psychoo on July 18, 2004, 04:33:12 am
About 20$.
Title: How Much Would You Pay To Buy The FS2 License
Post by: DaBrain on July 18, 2004, 05:14:10 am
Quote
Originally posted by Inquisitor
Ok, serious questions here folks: How will this money be managed?

you gotta think this thru, it cannot be a knee jerk reaction to a percieved falling sky.

How do you do this right? The short answer is this group probably doesn't. Too much anger, too little experience.

Take a step back, THINK about it for a day. This "situation" is what, less than 48 hours old?



What do we do if we can't get enough money ?
Will everybody get back his money... ? That sounds like much work for the guy who manages the donations.